Re: [Finale] Conducting in 12/8 Better than a boor. Really uncouth. It was in jest but with some truth. You must be confusing them with Dave Brubeck. Gerald Berg On 3-May-07, at 12:58 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Don't be asinine. The classic Ornette Coleman quartet wasn't "into meter"? Somebody should have told Billy Higgins, Charlie Haden, and Ed Blackwell -- these are some of the greatest rhythm section players of all time. And while Don Cherry was not the person Dean was thinking of, he was a brilliant musician who did actually *did* do a lot of mixed-meter stuff in the 1970's. Dave Holland -- whose current band seems to play in every meter imaginable except 4/4 -- says he learned to play mixed meters from Don Cherry, and Dave still teaches that system when he does student workshops. (I learned it from Dave at the Banff Jazz Workshop, and it is a *great* system.) I would have hoped that Ornette Coleman getting a well-deserved Pulitzer this year would fi! nally put an end to ignorant, knee-jerk dismissals of him and his associates. I'm greatly disheartened to see that's not yet the case. Cheers, - Darcy ----- djargon@mac.com Brooklyn, NY On 03 May 2007, at 12:42 PM, Gerald Berg wrote: No he played with Ornette Coleman. They weren't into meter at all. He was barely into trumpet playing. Jerry Gerald Berg On 3-May-07, at 12:18 PM, Stu McIntire wrote: Don Cherry, I think Stu Who was that jazz tpt. player, prominent back in the late sixties, who used to do charts with meters like 87/4, etc? I think his first name was Don ..... _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

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Better than a boor.  Really uncouth.

Twas in jest but with some truth. You must be confusing them with Dave Brubeck.

Gerald Berg


On 3-May-07, at 12:58 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Don't be asinine. The classic Ornette Coleman quartet wasn't "into meter"? Somebody should have told Billy Higgins, Charlie Haden, and Ed Blackwell -- these are some of the greatest rhythm section players of all time. And while Don Cherry was not the person Dean was thinking of, he was a brilliant musician who did actually *did* do a lot of mixed-meter stuff in the 1970's. Dave Holland -- whose current band seems to play in every meter imaginable except 4/4 -- says he learned to play mixed meters from Don Cherry, and Dave still teaches that system when he does student workshops. (I learned it from Dave at the Banff Jazz Workshop, and it is a *great* system.)

I would have hoped that Ornette Coleman getting a well-deserved Pulitzer this year would finally put an end to ignorant, knee-jerk dismissals of him and his associates. I'm greatly disheartened to see that's not yet the case.

Cheers,

- Darcy
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On 03 May 2007, at 12:42 PM, Gerald Berg wrote:

No he played with Ornette Coleman. They weren't into meter at all. He was barely into trumpet playing.

Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 3-May-07, at 12:18 PM, Stu McIntire wrote:

Don Cherry, I think

Stu

Who was that jazz tpt. player, prominent back in the late sixties,
who used to do charts with meters like 87/4, etc?  I think his first
name was Don .....
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