At 9:54 PM -0400 8/26/05, Andrew Stiller wrote:
This is another jazz/pop vs. classical terminology thingy. [snip] On
the jazz side, one of the two suspended cymbals in the standard
traps set is called a crash cymbal, and the other is called the
ride cymbal. The former is of heavier gauge and
Hey all,
This is regarding the Basic Orch Percussion GPO instrument included
in GPO Finale Edition (and GPO full):
Can anyone tell me what the difference is supposed to be between the
cymbals they call piatti cymbals (found at C6, C#6, and D6) and the
crash cymbal (found at D#6)? I know
On 26 Aug 2005, at 7:12 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
(and the crash cymbals are obviously hit harder and allowed to righ)
Should be allowed to RING.
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Hi Darcy,
The way I understand itCrash Cymbal is singular (not plural)...it
is a suspended cymbal. But this term is often mixed up because Clash
Cymbals are the two cymbals that are hit together like plates...
(hence Piatti...pl.) Often folks will say Crash Cymbals when what is
Hey Karen,
I'm used to referring to a pair of handheld cymbals as crash
cymbals (what you would call clash cymbals or piatti) and a
suspended cymbal as, well, a suspended cymbal, even when it's crashed.
But now that I listen again, I now realize that what GPO calls a
crash cymbal is
On Aug 26, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey all,
This is regarding the Basic Orch Percussion GPO instrument included
in GPO Finale Edition (and GPO full):
Can anyone tell me what the difference is supposed to be between the
cymbals they call piatti cymbals (found at C6, C#6,
On Aug 26, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey Karen,
I'm used to referring to a pair of handheld cymbals as crash
cymbals (what you would call clash cymbals or piatti) and a
suspended cymbal as, well, a suspended cymbal, even when it's
crashed.
Darcy,
I think that
I don't know about its being a malapropism, but it's certainly a
redundancy. Piatti is just the standard It. term
for the pair (piatto/piatti) of symphonic clashed
cymbals. A crash cymbal to me is something on a
drum kit, along with the ride, splash cymbals
etc.
At 05:08 PM 8/26/2005, you
Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/26/05 6:08 PM
At any rate, my main question was about the term piatti cymbal
which is used in both the GPO and the Finale manual -- this is
definitely a malaprop, right? It should be either piatti or clash
cymbals -- not piatti cymbal. Correct?
I'm quoting Andrew in full because I think he intended to send this
to the list and not just me personally.
On 26 Aug 2005, at 9:53 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Aug 26, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey all,
This is regarding the Basic Orch Percussion GPO instrument
On 26 Aug 2005, at 10:35 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
The sound they call crash cymbal is actually a suspended cymbal
crashed (i.e., hit very hard, with followthrough) with a stick.
Actually, now that I listen to it again, I realize it's not being hit
with a stick -- I think it's actually
On Aug 26, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey all,
This is regarding the Basic Orch Percussion GPO instrument included
in GPO Finale Edition (and GPO full):
Can anyone tell me what the difference is supposed to be between the
cymbals they call piatti cymbals (found at C6, C#6,
On 26 Aug 2005, at 9:53 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On the jazz side, one of the two suspended cymbals in the standard
traps set is called a crash cymbal, and the other is called the
ride cymbal. The former is of heavier gauge and is for producing
big splashes of sound through single strokes,
Actually clashed cymbals (not clash)
is a common term and the Oxford Companion to Musical Instruments uses
it. But I agree that most of us now just call them crash
cymbals.
Ken
At 06:54 PM 8/26/2005, you wrote:
This is another jazz/pop vs.
classical terminology thingy. In classical music, the
I'm curious about the use of crash cymbals versus clash
symbols. As I said, in classical circles, I have always heard
(and used) crash cymbals to mean hand-held cymbals. I have never
heard the term crash cymbals applied to suspended cymbals except
in jazz circles. However, if clash
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