Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-08-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 31, 2008, at 11:56 AM, John Howell wrote: There were two VERY successful bands in the early '60s that pushed the limits of jazz/pop/rock'n'roll/classical styles and started a fusion movement that continued for at least 15 years (and may still be happening). ... The two bands I'm

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread dhbailey
Patrick Sheehan wrote: [snip] 1. Accidentals He claims that, in a (e.g.) scalar run: (Key of Bb Major), if the clarinet plays a scalar run (with Ab accidentals only, outside of the key) starting on it's written low F (below the staff), it will play F, G, Ab, Bb, C, D, Eb, F, G, THEN...

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread christopher . smith
- Original Message - From: Patrick Sheehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 21:08 Subject: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct? To: finale@shsu.edu I have a brother that plays in a prestigious big band, and I have recently been hired as the copyist

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Sheehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 21:08 Subject: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct? To: finale@shsu.edu I have a brother that plays in a prestigious big band, and I have recently been hired as the copyist for this particular band. I had done non-contracted copy

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread Ray Horton
On 30 Jul 2008, at 9:02 PM, Patrick Sheehan wrote: 2. Double Sharps, Double Flats: As we all know, some big band ballads or jazz chart ballads can be in some nasty keys (e.g. a lot of Glenn Miller's charts are in Db and Ab), moreso in favor for the vocalist, and my question is: if something

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread Ray Horton
Carolyn Bremer wrote: Here's my take. I think all notation books will agree that accidentals apply only to one octave. In usage, I find that players will play all octaves with the same accidental. Perhaps your particular ensemble is used to having an accidental show on only one octave while

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread John Howell
At 5:18 AM -0400 7/31/08, dhbailey wrote: Patrick Sheehan wrote: I'll ask a bold question: Do you think musicians who complain about double sharps and double flats exemplify poor musicianship, because they're too hard to figure out? Anyone with me on that?I have seen double-sharps and

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-31 Thread Carl Dershem
John Howell wrote: The two bands I'm thinking of were, of course, Blood, Sweat and Tears and the original Chicago Transit Authority. Well, those bands are actually products of the late 60's, but I see where you're coming from. That said, I look at doubles as obstructions to clarity. Yeah,

[Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-30 Thread Patrick Sheehan
I have a brother that plays in a prestigious big band, and I have recently been hired as the copyist for this particular band. I had done non-contracted copy work for them before, and need to clear up some notation issues with the experts, because we argue. I'm not extensive in jazz, but I

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-07-30 Thread Carolyn Bremer
Here's my take. I think all notation books will agree that accidentals apply only to one octave. In usage, I find that players will play all octaves with the same accidental. Perhaps your particular ensemble is used to having an accidental show on only one octave while applying to all, but it is