Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.06.2007 Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 8, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Sibelius 5 has been announced. Looking at the new features briefly, I see they have added easy cue notes. Perhaps finally Finale will include such, too? I have been asking for it for years. Huh? In

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.06.2007 dc wrote: For me, #1 is the hyphen bug, or rather bugs, because there are several hyphen bugs (disappearing hyphens and misplaced hyphens, non wysywigness of the hyphens, etc.), to which I'd add, although MM probably considers this as a feature, the wrong, or at least

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced, now top 2007 bugs

2007-06-11 Thread Raymond Horton
dc wrote: Johannes Gebauer écrit: I really, really wished MakeMusic would do exactly that, too. I'd happily pay for such an update. Fin2k7 is a nightmare to work with, it has reached a critical mass of bugs and problems which is unacceptable, and almost impossible to work with. I'd also pay

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced, now top 2007 bugs

2007-06-11 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 6/11/07, Raymond Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #1 for me is the one I've posted here to no solution, and the reason I can't use 2007 at all. At any given time, at printing time, my full pages print as only a postage stamp size. Only solution at that point was to print as PDFs. It

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced, now top 2007 bugs

2007-06-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:05 PM 6/11/2007 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Finale's PDFs onscreen have always looked bloody awful (this is for PC users, I'm sure on the MAC it's a different story). I've never understood what could be so difficult about fixing something so simple as this. It works fine (small and

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-11 Thread Richard Huggins
Excellent idea. An update with NO new features would demonstrate MM';s commitment to maintain leadership status and its responsiveness to its user base. Part of me wonders if the programmers wouldn't cheer an announcement in staff meeting to the effect, Folks, we're goin' bug squashing!

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-11 Thread dhbailey
Richard Huggins wrote: Excellent idea. An update with NO new features would demonstrate MM';s commitment to maintain leadership status and its responsiveness to its user base. Part of me wonders if the programmers wouldn't cheer an announcement in staff meeting to the effect, Folks, we're

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-11 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 11, 2007, at 9:27 AM, dc wrote: Why don't we start a list of 2007's worst bugs? If we are numerous to agree on these, perhaps we could convince MM to act? For me, #1 is the hyphen bug, or rather bugs, because there are several hyphen bugs (disappearing hyphens and misplaced

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-11 Thread Bunnydowns
In a message dated 6/11/2007 3:49:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first thing Tech Support says to do if you report any of the above bugs, is re-install Finale which NEVER does anything except make you lose all your preferences and edited component files.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-09 Thread Richard Huggins
I root for Sibelius even though I've never used it and can't imagine using it unless a project client demands it and the project is worth learning it. Keep the heat on! Breathe down MM's neck! Get better and better. In the jungle, strong animals get old or sick. You know what happens to

[Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Sibelius 5 has been announced. Looking at the new features briefly, I see they have added easy cue notes. Perhaps finally Finale will include such, too? I have been asking for it for years. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 8, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Sibelius 5 has been announced. Looking at the new features briefly, I see they have added easy cue notes. Perhaps finally Finale will include such, too? I have been asking for it for years. Huh? In the Plugins menu under Scoring and

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:06 PM, dhbailey wrote: Such as making tech-support easier and friendlier for starters. I don't know when you emailed tech support last, but they changed things a few months ago. It's through email now, and you don't have to give your mother's maiden name every time

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread shirling neueweise
Oh wow, they have a SCROLL VIEW now. Wow. Amazing. Those guys are great. from what i have seen (and following discussions with a sib power-user colleague) i think the value of this release is that they have actually -- seemingly -- addressed a number of long-standing issues with sibelius.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:06 PM, dhbailey wrote: Such as making tech-support easier and friendlier for starters. I don't know when you emailed tech support last, but they changed things a few months ago. It's through email now, and you don't have to give your mother's

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Eric Dannewitz
While I would like to have a bugless program, I don't think that is really likely from any software company. Ideally, yeah, it would be great if they could just go through and fix a lot of outstanding issues. But, they also need to keep adding features.so there is a balance. But, I have

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread shirling neueweise
While I would like to have a bugless program, I don't think that is really likely from any software company. my point was simply that sib5 might not have a major new feature but it seems to be a version with many very important improvements; i.e. they actually **did** resolve a lot of

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: But, I have never had any issues with bugs in Finale 2007. Probably a lot of people haven't. Holy moley! Are you kidding? I haven't had so many problems with bugs EVER in Finale as I do in 2007, and this is going back to 3.2! Maybe

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.06.2007 dhbailey wrote: Eric Dannewitz wrote: Oh wow, they have a SCROLL VIEW now. Wow. Amazing. Those guys are great. Well it may be a yawn to you, but it is certainly attracting this finale-user's interest! And other folks' as well. [snip] Thanks David, for spelling out what I

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Um, no. If I cannot easily import all my exisiting stuff into Sibelius, that is a deal breaker. MusicXML doesn't cut it. I would want/need something that opens it and I don't have to futz with it. Yeah, scroll view is a great feature which I need and use all the time. It's great Sibelius

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 announced

2007-06-08 Thread John Howell
At 4:06 PM -0400 6/8/07, dhbailey wrote: Eric Dannewitz wrote: Oh wow, they have a SCROLL VIEW now. Wow. Amazing. Those guys are great. Well it may be a yawn to you, but it is certainly attracting this finale-user's interest! And other folks' as well. Especially in view of how many of