Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-13 Thread Stephen Onwood
At 03:50 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote: So I usually have at least 4 copies of important data at any one time. I had an HD crash last year and all I lost was a week of my wife's emails. Your living dangerously admitting such a thing publicly! ;-) ___

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 11/13/2006 12:34 PM, Stephen Onwood wrote: At 03:50 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote: So I usually have at least 4 copies of important data at any one time. I had an HD crash last year and all I lost was a week of my wife's emails. Your living dangerously admitting such a thing publicly! ;-) ;-)

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.11.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I do wonder whether you should start by just creating iTunes library on an external drive. Then you can burn CDs when you need them. I assume what you're suggesting is that I buy an external drive and

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 10.11.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: As for the stability of CDs as a backup medium, I confess I can't get too upset about it. After all, 2-20 years is a pretty good estimate of my own life expectancy at this point. Mostly, I just want to be able to make a CD from an LP as an easy way of

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I do wonder whether you should start by just creating iTunes library on an external drive. Then you can burn CDs when you need them. I assume what you're suggesting is that I buy an external drive and record to it from my downstairs

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Andrew, Actually, I think what Johannes is suggesting is that you still get the second turntable to hook up to your iMac, but instead of immediately burning all your imported vinyl to CD-R's, you could instead buy a large external USB/FireWire HD and save your imported LP audio files

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread ThomaStudios
I have experienced the same as Johannes. I have several, out of hundreds, of CD-Rs with backup files for clients. I can recall at least a half dozen times where I've gone back to retrieve something, and the disc wound NOT mount or would not read the files. Damn, floppies were more

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:33 AM 11/10/06 -0800, ThomaStudios wrote: I have experienced the same as Johannes. I have several, out of hundreds, of CD-Rs with backup files for clients. I can recall at least a half dozen times where I've gone back to retrieve something, and the disc wound NOT mount or would not

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:00 PM 11/10/06 +0100, dc wrote: There's also a big difference between audio CDs and data CDs. I've often seen audio CDs readable on one machine and full of errors on another. Audio CDs do not have the error-correction of data CDs; they were created to play back fairly accurately, with ways

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 11/10/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then, if a data CD is declared unreadable, isn't there any specialized software that allows to salvage at least part of its content? Dennis http://www.fraudaid.com/security_products/categories/cd-dvd-hard_drives/cd-dvd_diagnostic_cd.htm

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread dhbailey
ThomaStudios wrote: I have experienced the same as Johannes. I have several, out of hundreds, of CD-Rs with backup files for clients. I can recall at least a half dozen times where I've gone back to retrieve something, and the disc wound NOT mount or would not read the files. Damn, floppies

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 11/10/06, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These days I use two different hard-disks apart from my main hard-disk so the data is in three hard-disk locations and then I also back up to DVDrw. With the discussion yesterday about how cheap web hosting is, I'm going to purchase a domain

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Nov 2006 at 9:49, Phil Daley wrote: At 11/10/2006 09:33 AM, ThomaStudios wrote: I have experienced the same as Johannes. I have several, out of hundreds, of CD-Rs with backup files for clients. I can recall at least a half dozen times where I've gone back to retrieve something,

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Phil Daley
At 11/10/2006 01:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I wonder if Macs are less reliable at reading CDs than Windows? On what basis would you wonder such a thing? The OS could not possibly have anyting to do with it -- it's entirely an issue of the media and the hardware that writes to it. Right,

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Fercrissakes, Phil, must you turn EVERYTHING into a platform war? Apple uses Pioneer optical drives, which are among the most reliable in the industry. Many PC manufacturers use the exact same drives. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Nov 2006, at 1:37 PM, Phil

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Nov 2006 at 13:37, Phil Daley wrote: At 11/10/2006 01:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I wonder if Macs are less reliable at reading CDs than Windows? On what basis would you wonder such a thing? The OS could not possibly have anyting to do with it -- it's entirely an issue of the

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
Thanks to all who advised on this topic. All the advice, tho, seems to be about software. Most of my puzzlement comes at the hardware end. Audio equipment output lines come with RCA plugs, mini-phone jacks, or bare wires. I don't see input ports for any of these modes anywhere near my

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Phil Daley
At 11/10/2006 01:44 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Fercrissakes, Phil, must you turn EVERYTHING into a platform war? Apple uses Pioneer optical drives, which are among the most reliable in the industry. Many PC manufacturers use the exact same drives. All I said was that wondered about it. I

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:21 PM 11/10/2006, Andrew Stiller wrote: Thanks to all who advised on this topic. All the advice, tho, seems to be about software. Most of my puzzlement comes at the hardware end. Audio equipment output lines come with RCA plugs, mini-phone jacks, or bare wires. I don't see input ports for

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
From one who knows nothing, is it not easier to buy a cd recorder and record direct from LP tunrtable to CD and cut out the computer altogether? I'm sure that this is so obvious as to be completely wrong and not a viable option, but that's what I've done so far (without the clean-up options)

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dick Hauser
On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: The fundamental question I was asking, therefore, was How do I attach a turntable to my iMac? I've done several with this: http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/ Dick H ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Nov 2006, at 4:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From one who knows nothing, is it not easier to buy a cd recorder and record direct from LP tunrtable to CD and cut out the computer altogether? I'm sure that this is so obvious as to be completely wrong and not a viable option, but

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Carl Dershem
Darcy James Argue wrote: 1) Get a turntable with a direct USB output, and record the output using software designed for cleaning up input from LPs. (Often this software comes with the USB turntable.) Several of you have recommended this. Do any have specific recommendations? (My

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Richard Yates
:17 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD Darcy James Argue wrote: 1) Get a turntable with a direct USB output, and record the output using software designed for cleaning up input from LPs. (Often this software comes with the USB turntable.) Several of you have recommended this. Do any

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:17 PM 11/10/2006, Carl Dershem wrote: Several of you have recommended this. Do any have specific recommendations?  Yes -- I sent a URL in my last post: http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?productID=12071. Aaron. ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Carl Dershem
Richard Yates wrote: 1) Get a turntable with a direct USB output, and record the output using software designed for cleaning up input from LPs. (Often this software comes with the USB turntable.) Several of you have recommended this. Do any have specific recommendations? (My turntable is

[Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
I feel an increasing need to digitally back up key parts of my extensive LP collection. Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:54 PM 11/9/06 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: I feel an increasing need to digitally back up key parts of my extensive LP collection. Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? If you already have a computer with a reasonable stereo

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Cecil Rigby
I hook my turntable up to the inputs on my computer and record tracks using PolderBits. I use Veritas' RecordNow program to get the files to CD (it came with my HP Windoze computer software). PolderBits has good filters for click/scratch, noise, etc, and you can save the files in different

RE: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Stu McIntire
Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? I've had good results with the inexpensive MAGIX Audio Cleaning Lab (http://site.magix.net/english-us/home/music/audio-cleaning-lab-11/). Beware that some alternatives require you to manually

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread John Roberts
For software, Audacity, from SoundForge, is as cheap as they come being freeware, and does the job. It also has reasonable, if brief, documentation. It also comes in a Mac version. On a Mac, you probably already have a decent soundcard built in (I don't know about newer Macs). I decided to get an

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.11.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: I feel an increasing need to digitally back up key parts of my extensive LP collection. Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? Just one word of caution: CD-Rs are not a very long-lasting backup

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Phil Daley
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Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:16 PM 11/9/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Just one word of caution: CD-Rs are not a very long-lasting backup medium, and once they go they are gone for good. I am not exactly sure what the answer is, does anyone know a backup medium which will last longer? CDs tend to fail frequently

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Phil Daley
At 11/9/2006 02:16 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 09.11.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: I feel an increasing need to digitally back up key parts of my extensive LP collection. Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? Just one word of

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.11.2006 Phil Daley wrote: I doubt it. I have hundreds of CDs that are 10 years old or longer. I have never seen a CD fail. Well, I have, several. How old is that article? I recently heard a report on the radio about a new study (I believe this was done at the Berlin Free University,

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.11.2006 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Two years? The Dutch CDR test showed deterioration beginning at about two years for CDRs stored in haphazard conditions. My oldest CDRs are just reaching ten years without a problem showing up in regular random checks of the different brands that I've