David W. Fenton wrote:
Quote:
Netscape 6.0 is finally going into its first public beta. There
never was a version 5.0. The last major release, version 4.0, was
released almost three years ago. Three years is an awfully long
time in the Internet world. During this time,
On 1 Nov 2007 at 14:11, John Howell wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
Quote:
Netscape 6.0 is finally going into its first public beta. There
never was a version 5.0. The last major release, version 4.0, was
released almost three years ago. Three years is an awfully long
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:22, Kurt Gnos wrote:
Fix its old bugs, but better reprogram it from scratch, using new
technologies
This is a really terrible suggestion. If you think the bugs in Finale
are bad now, wait 'til you see the new programmed-from-scratch
Finale.
John's right -- there are lots of shortcuts.
The best thing I can suggest to new Sibelius users is to learn to use
the escape key -- hit it whenever you're in doubt (yes, you can still
have things selected that you're not viewing onscreen at the moment),
and sometimes hitting it twice for
David W. Fenton wrote:
Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire
codebase and started from scratch.
Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of
thinking, using mainly the same kind of tools, will not solve anything.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
At 7:59 AM +0100 11/1/07, Jari Williamsson wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase
and started from scratch.
Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of
thinking, using mainly the same kind of tools, will not
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Subject: Re: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions
John Howell wrote:
Nor if you decide you want to change
On 1 Nov 2007 at 4:44, dhbailey wrote:
It's quite possible to be successful at it -- it costs money, certainly,
but it's something auto makers do all the time. They keep on bringing
out annual upgrades to existing models until a whole new model is
finally ready to present to the public,
On 1 Nov 2007 at 13:47, John Howell wrote:
At 7:59 AM +0100 11/1/07, Jari Williamsson wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase
and started from scratch.
Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of
thinking,
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I, so far, find Sibelius extremely backwards. Like putting articulations
on notes after I enter them. Still can't figure that out. Nor if you
decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
So far, I've tried to do two trios with Sibelius, but ended up going
back to
You can select the articulation from the keypad at the same time as the
rhythm. But I find that awkward unless you just need a few isolated
articulations. For me, articulation is most seamlessly applied to entire
regions (select any number of measures) rather than note by note. I also
stop
At 10:30 PM -0800 10/30/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I, so far, find Sibelius extremely backwards. Like putting
articulations on notes after I enter them. Still can't figure that
out.
I'll second everything David Bailey said, but add this. Sibelius
gives you choices, and one of those choices
John Howell wrote:
All notation is complex.
In this case, I think the complete opposite way. The problem as I see it
is that all music software of today are using technology from 30-40
years ago. If a music program was developed today, using the technology
invented during the last 5-10
John Howell wrote:
Nor if you decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
I assume that you mean same staff, change to a different instrument,
perhaps change clef or transposition, rather than the scenario David
explained. I know it can be done, but not how because I haven't had
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
John Howell wrote:
Nor if you decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
I assume that you mean same staff, change to a different instrument,
perhaps change clef or transposition, rather than the scenario David
explained. I know it can be done, but not how
Eric this may be what you want.
1. Right click on a blank part of the page for the context menu. At
the bottom of the menu is other. Open that up.
2. Select change instrument
3. Pick an instrument from the list.
4. Click the now blue (=loaded) arrow where you want to change the
with you, Jari, we need a new
program...
Kurt
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John
Right clicking does not bring up any context menu that has OTHER in it.
I get Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Capture Idea, Voice, Hide/Show, Color
and Apply Color...
However, in the menu, there is Other buried under Create..
Sibelius 5.1...frustrating..
Richard Smith wrote:
Eric this
On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:22, Kurt Gnos wrote:
Fix its old bugs, but better reprogram it from scratch, using new
technologies
This is a really terrible suggestion. If you think the bugs in Finale
are bad now, wait 'til you see the new programmed-from-scratch
Finale. Consider the case of Netscape,
It sounds like your cursor was resting on some musical element when you
right clicked. You got the menu that opens when you are pointing to a
specific element. It's much shorter.
To get the longer list of options, you have to point to a blank space on
the page. Then there is a context menu
At 11:44 PM +0100 10/29/07, Kurt Gnos wrote:
Is there a way to select an entire staff except highlighting the first
measure, go to the last page and shift-clicking the last measure? I guess
there is... But there is no clicking to the left of the staff as in Finale,
so I didn't find out...;-)
David, John,
thanks for the quick and competent answers.
Well, apart from the crashes, I get a quite good impression. And I am glad
you two are here to answer all my future Sibelius questions. I must say,
generally the user interface it quite nice and much more modern than Finale,
and the output
At 10:25 PM +0100 10/30/07, Kurt Gnos wrote:
David, John,
thanks for the quick and competent answers.
Well, apart from the crashes, I get a quite good impression. And I am glad
you two are here to answer all my future Sibelius questions. I must say,
generally the user interface it quite nice
I, so far, find Sibelius extremely backwards. Like putting articulations
on notes after I enter them. Still can't figure that out. Nor if you
decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
So far, I've tried to do two trios with Sibelius, but ended up going
back to Finale cause it was
David,
thanks, that did it.
Is there a way to select an entire staff except highlighting the first
measure, go to the last page and shift-clicking the last measure? I guess
there is... But there is no clicking to the left of the staff as in Finale,
so I didn't find out...;-)
Kurt
Hi,
another one for the Sibelius users...
I added a text block on the second page containing additional verses.
I wrote 1. - TAB - first verse
And aligned everything.
Up to the 5th verse.
But the text printed as
1. bla bla bla
bla bla bla.
What I wanted is:
1. bla bla bla
Bla
I tried that and it didn't work. I guess this is only for future entries - I
also did not find any apply button or something like this...
Kurt
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Gesendet: Montag, 29. Oktober 2007
Kurt Gnos wrote:
David,
thanks, that did it.
Is there a way to select an entire staff except highlighting the first
measure, go to the last page and shift-clicking the last measure? I guess
there is... But there is no clicking to the left of the staff as in Finale,
so I didn't find out...;-)
Kurt Gnos wrote:
I tried that and it didn't work. I guess this is only for future entries - I
also did not find any apply button or something like this...
Just make sure you exit that dialog properly after editing any of the
text styles -- be sure to click any/all OK buttons and don't get
It seems people who write these kinds of topics don't read the rest of the
Finale maillist.
While I sympathize with switching to Sibelius, I've been doing that for
years, I must admit that I find Finale's new features, even if keeping the
bugs, worth the upgrade. The new combined arrow/mass mover
On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote:
It seems people who write these kinds of topics don't read the rest
of the
Finale maillist.
While I sympathize with switching to Sibelius, I've been doing that
for
years, I must admit that I find Finale's new features, even if
keeping the
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