Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19.11.2009 Andrew Stiller wrote: On the rare occasions where I've seen this specified (in Mahler, for example), the German expression has been viel Bogen. Were I to want this effect, I would use the English equivalent much bow. For me as a violinist Fast Bow and Viel Bogen is not exactly

RE: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-20 Thread Lee Actor
On 19.11.2009 Andrew Stiller wrote: On the rare occasions where I've seen this specified (in Mahler, for example), the German expression has been viel Bogen. Were I to want this effect, I would use the English equivalent much bow. For me as a violinist Fast Bow and Viel Bogen is not

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-20 Thread John Howell
At 3:52 PM -0500 11/19/09, Andrew Stiller wrote: Someone else mentioned flautando, but this is not at all equivalent. Flautando specifically means to play with the edge of the bow-hair (at any speed), and is a light, airy effect. Thank you for that, Andrew. We played Joseph/Dreamcoat last

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I don't think so. My teacher used to write Fast Bow or Slow Bow where it mattered. It's much worse in German, schneller Bogen or langsamer Bogen seems to take far too much space, so I still use the English terms... Johannes On 19.11.2009 Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for any

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Christian Mondrup
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for any kind of standard notation symbol for playing string instruments with a fast bow speed. Does anyone know if any such symbol exists? See Gardner Read, Music Notation, 2nd. Ed., Boston 1969, page 406, example 23-24 (section 'String notation,

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Jari Williamsson
Christian Mondrup wrote: See Gardner Read, Music Notation, 2nd. Ed., Boston 1969, page 406, example 23-24 (section 'String notation, modern innovations). I'm not a Finale user and hence don't know whether the symbol has been implemented in Finale. You mean the 23-44? That's for fast

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Jari Williamsson
Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think so. My teacher used to write Fast Bow or Slow Bow where it mattered. It's much worse in German, schneller Bogen or langsamer Bogen seems to take far too much space, so I still use the English terms... Ok, f.b. would be an alternative when it's generally

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Christian Mondrup
Jari Williamsson wrote: Christian Mondrup wrote: See Gardner Read, Music Notation, 2nd. Ed., Boston 1969, page 406, example 23-24 (section 'String notation, modern innovations). I'm not a Finale user and hence don't know whether the symbol has been implemented in Finale. You mean the 23-44?

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread John Howell
At 2:10 PM +0100 11/19/09, Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for any kind of standard notation symbol for playing string instruments with a fast bow speed. Does anyone know if any such symbol exists? No. At least not in standard notation that any trained player would recognize.

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Jari Williamsson
John Howell wrote: At 2:10 PM +0100 11/19/09, Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for any kind of standard notation symbol for playing string instruments with a fast bow speed. Does anyone know if any such symbol exists? No. At least not in standard notation that any trained player

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Matthew Gmail
I suppose that is what flautando means in essence, ie fast (and light) bowing. If a symbol were to be used, I imagine that the stem with an arrow through it would be the best. This is in one of the opus fonts. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 20/11/2009, at 12:10 AM, Jari Williamsson

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think so. My teacher used to write Fast Bow or Slow Bow where it mattered. It's much worse in German, schneller Bogen or langsamer Bogen seems to take far too much space, so I still use the English terms... On the rare occasions

Re: [Finale] Music Notation: Fast bow

2009-11-19 Thread Owain Sutton
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 15:52 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think so. My teacher used to write Fast Bow or Slow Bow where it mattered. It's much worse in German, schneller Bogen or langsamer Bogen seems to take far too much