Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-22 Thread Daniel Wolf
Jari Williamsson wrote: But why would Igor decide the rules, why couldn't the user define the rules? This goes to my deepest frustration with notation programs. Almost every time I have turned to developers at one or another of the software firms with a request for help to do something

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Yates
Obviously, the notation product is a very long way off and there are no examples to show yet, but here's the first blog post by Daniel Spreadbury announcing the project: http://blog.steinberg.net/2013/02/welcome/ If Daniel is associated with the project, then I am optimistic (Now, if he

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-21 Thread Steve Parker
(Now, if he could only get me off the Igor Noteheads mailing list, then he would be a true hero!) Me too! Four years into daily Finale use I still hit things that were far quicker in Igor. Basic thinks like slur entry, dynamic entry, hairpin entry, proper linked parts, ability to grab

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-21 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-02-21 14:02, Steve Parker wrote: It is to be hoped that Steinberg take a look at Igor. ...or they could try to be really innovative for a change? Although Igor went much further than anything else in terms of innovative thinking, Igor was still just a variation on the same theme. IMO,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-21 Thread Steve Parker
When Igor came out it was entirely different. New features in fairly recent versions of Finale and Sibelius were present at the start of Igor more than a decade ahead of its time. Can you explain more the direction you're thinking? Modeless operation; ability to easily enter dynamics, slurs,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-21 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-02-21 15:33, Steve Parker wrote: Can you explain more the direction you're thinking? Just some examples: * Some Finale users thought Sibelius 7 was a good choice just because it now had an input mode where the duration/pitch entry sequence was reversed. Why should such things even be

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-20 Thread Darcy James Argue
The yet-to-be-named notation product already has a blog, written by Daniel Spreadbury, who is part of the development team: http://blog.steinberg.net Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: This

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-20 Thread Raymond Horton
More power to them - it can only help the industry. Not much showing on the page right now - that Dvorak example is pretty lame. But it is early. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew Moschou
Actually, that Dvořák example is in Sibelius. — Andrew On 21 February 2013 15:42, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote: More power to them - it can only help the industry. Not much showing on the page right now - that Dvorak example is pretty lame. But it is early. Raymond Horton

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-20 Thread Raymond Horton
That is funny! RBH On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Andrew Moschou and...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, that Dvořák example is in Sibelius. — Andrew On 21 February 2013 15:42, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote: More power to them - it can only help the industry. Not much

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Core Team Now at Steinberg, Building New Notation Tool

2013-02-20 Thread Darcy James Argue
That Sibelius image was selected by the website reporting on the story, http://createdigitalmusic.com. Obviously, the notation product is a very long way off and there are no examples to show yet, but here's the first blog post by Daniel Spreadbury announcing the project: