date:20140930

Re: [Finale] Muted trumpet playback

2014-09-30 Thread Jan Angermüller

I had a similar issue with muted trill on Garritan strings,
which even MM support could not solve.
But they sent me the following link which may help you.
It's the keywords that human playback supports for
the Garritan instruments. But unfortunately the
list is incomplete as it doesn't list the keywords
that Finale's human playback has for other libraries,
that Garritan doesn't support (for example: martelé).

http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Win/Finale.htm#Finale/GarritanHP6.htm?Highlight=keyswitch

If human playback still doesn't work as expected which
happens from time to time, it's always possible to define
your own MIDI dump text expressions for a key switch.
They will definitely work.

There is only one drawback: these midi expressions need
to be defined for each MIDI channel. So if you have four trumpets
on four different MIDI channels, you need for expression for mute.

For example:
If you have the trumpet on MIDI channel 1, the MIDI dump for the
Garritan Personal Orchestra KP2 N-TPT 1 Plr1 sound is (see attached
screenshot):
Number of units: 3
MIDI-Data: $90 $00 $FF

The MIDI dump for muted sound is:
MIDI-Data: $90 $02 $FF

For channel 2 it would be $91 and so on,
for channel 11 $9A, for channel 16 $9F.

Technical explanation:
$9x means send a note-on message on MIDI channel x+1
$00/$02 is the number of the note to send ($00 is the lowest note, $FF the
highest note, $3C is middle C)
$FF is the velocity (from $00 to $FF)

Hope this helps.

Jan Angermueller

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[Finale] Barline question

2014-09-30 Thread Haroldo Mauro

How do I prevent breaks in a ritornello barline at the end of a system within a 
score? I have close barline at the end of a system (document options) 
checked, but the barline goes through groups only, leaving a blank between 
them. Thanks. Harold
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Re: [Finale] Muted trumpet playback

2014-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue

I've found in recent version of Finale, it's necessary for me to dig into the 
HP preferences  Instrument Techniques and change the Filter for all keyswitch 
expressions from the default (If Device/Library Name Contains: Garritan or 
(If Device/Library Name Contains: JABB) to None. (Then name and save this 
set of preferences so it can be used later!) This usually does the trick for 
me. But sometimes I also have to duplicate the technique I want (in this case, 
Brass: Standard) and set the filter to For Text Expressions Containing and 
manually add the expression I'm trying to use, even if it's supposed to already 
be part of the HP dictionary.

I must say, HP+Garritan+Finale remains a bit of a mess. For products owned by 
the same company, you'd think they'd have managed to achieve much more reliable 
integration by now. The Apply Human Playback plugin, in particular, has been 
severely broken for several versions now.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:21 AM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote:

 Tried open, that didn't work either.  For some reason that key-switch is
 getting stuck.
 
 -Lee
 
 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
 Chuck Israels
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:13 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Muted trumpet playback
 
 Have you tried open?
 
 That seems to work pretty consistently for me.
 
 Chuck
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 None of the expressions is defined to directly change patches; presumably
 Human Playback does that through key-switching (KS).  Senza sord.
 unmutes
 strings, but not trumpets, and I don't understand what's wrong.
 
 -Lee
 
 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
 Of
 dershem
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:17 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Muted trumpet playback
 
 On 9/29/2014 4:10 PM, Lee Actor wrote:
 Finale 2012c, GPO 4.  When I use any KS patch for trumpets, they play
 muted
 when encountering con sord.  But they seemingly stay muted forever;
 senza
 sord., mute off, norm., nothing gets them to remove the mutes.  When
 I
 use con sord./senza sord. for strings, it works as expected.  For now I'm
 using non-KS patches so the trumpets never mute, but I'd like to get it
 to
 work.  I'm using a custom Human Playback style with almost everything
 turned
 off, except slurs, trills/ornaments/tremolos, haripins/dynamics, and
 glissandi/bends; 0% on all slider controls.  What am I missing?
 
 -Lee
 The patch for mute is apparently set up right, but you have to change 
 the playback patch for 'senza sord' back to 'trumpet' alone. That should 
 do it.
 
 Carl
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Re: [Finale] Muted trumpet playback / HP issues

2014-09-30 Thread Jan Angermüller

 I must say, HP+Garritan+Finale remains a bit of a mess. For products owned by 
 the same company, you'd think they'd have managed to achieve much more 
 reliable integration by now.
That's also my impression. Especially the human playback
techniques interface is still very buggy. For example:

  - values get deleted, if you change other values in certain circumstances
- data for MIDI channel x is sent on channel x+1 in certain circumstances
- note dropouts with certain rhythmic feel settings
   (MIDI note off is sent message before (!) note on message)
- certain instrument names are not recognized in HP although they use 
the Finale default spelling
- very common playing techniques missing (e.g. muted guitar)
- certain transposing instruments are not recognized in HP
- sometimes the data is sent to the wrong VST bank (then everything is 
sent to VST bank 1)
- problem of switching back to normal playing after muted or sforzato 
techniques

And not a single bug fix until now...
It seems to be a subject where MM support gets only very few requests.
That's sad because human playback could be so powerful for playback
if everything worked as promised.

Jan Angermueller

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