Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
At 8:04 PM -0500 2/21/05, David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Feb 2005 at 19:33, Crystal Premo wrote: I'm sorry, but I take offense to being called illogical because you don't agree with my reaction to an artistic display. It's not your esthetic reaction that's being criticized, but your truly illogical point about school funding. The money spent here would not exist to *be* spent were there no public art installation to generate the revenue in sales that supported its creation. Certainly true. Just as the millions of dollars raised by politicians COULD be spent more productively on health care instead of on their own egos, but again that money would not be raised at all except for the cost of electioneering, and so would not be available for ANY other use. But, David, this profound illogic may actually be hardwired into our brains, at least judging by the frequency it gets trotted out by people who THINK they are being logical. The false dichotomy: spend it on this or spend it on that, but of course don't even admit that you can spend it on both! Oliver North, famous for subverting the U.S. government and running a guns program from inside the White House, raised over $20 million to feed his ego and desire to take public office, almost all of it from outside the state of Virginia, but the money he spent on his unsuccessful bid was spent here in Virginia and in D.C. The arguments against the space program, which is the ONLY way we can eventually ensure the survival of the human race, are similar. But where do these people think that money actually goes? It doesn't disappear into some black hole. It is used to purchase things and to pay people's salaries. Every penny is immediately returned to the economy to create jobs, which in turn create more jobs, increase the tax base (which is where educational funding comes from in this country), support contractors and subcontractors and their employees' families. I don't consider economics a real science, since it can only generate opinions and never predict outcomes accurately, but common sense says that every dollar spent in ANY public or private endeavor circulates through the economy and benefits both the economy and the citizens who make up that economy. Including the money raised for and spent on the infamous Gates. 'Nuff said. John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I think the Martians would probably be impressed, actually. (By the gates, not by the schools.) I wished I was in New York to be able to see it. When Christo did the Reichstag in Berlin I missed it, and everyone who was there said it was amazing. The photographer Spencer Tunick staged a shoot in Montreal a few years ago. His specialty at the time was shooting hordes of naked people. I would have participated if I had been available, and I followed the story with fascination. 2000 volunteers showed up at 6:00 am on a chilly Sunday to pose, draped across the steps of Place des Arts. His photographs are at once chilling, warming, shocking, gorgeous, barely erotic (if at all) and anything but ignorable. I was amazed at my own reactions to his various works, all of which have the people's faces not looking toward the camera, so we are not as aware of their individuality or personalities. Yet the texture of so much naked human flesh in an otherwise deserted urban setting got me to thinking in so many different ways, I still can't get over it. Some people saw the Holocaust, some saw a huge, happy orgy, some saw Armageddon, some saw the Garden of Eden, some saw a nuclear aftermath, some saw pornography, and some just saw texture divorced from the human materials. I wish I could see the Christo installation. There's something about a large canvas that's striking to me. Big painting, big sculpture, big orchestra, all of it. My wife tells me it's a guy thing. 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
I may not totally agree, but I don't think I said anything on goverment funding, did I? Actually, fact is that opera without some kind of external funding is simply not possible (at least not Grand Opera of any kind). Whether this should be the government or not is certainly another question, and one which I guess will be answered differently in Europe and the US. But Christo is no different in this sense from any non-government-funded opera company. He has sponsors, doesn't he? So does opera. Johannes Simon Troup wrote: I wasn't. I think opera should be self sustaining and certainly not be funded by government. Funding a show with Pavarottis over inflated invoice in it is basically lining his pockets with hard earned income tax! This isn't an attack on opera, I think the same about football and folk dancing. Don't know what this has to do with Christo as he pays his own way, he can do what he likes with it. He could spend his cash on fine art that he keeps in a locked bank vault and then sit on the investment. As it is he beautifies places with it - and if you don't like it you get your park back or your building unwrapped pretty quickly anyway. The people that object are usually sound like they find it difficult to allow others to enjoy themselves if they don't share their own viewpoint. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] how to get the best possible sound output
Hello there you happy listers I am about to purchase a Mac G5 and before I do I would like to find out through any of you musical friends a couple of things, and here is one of them: I intend to add the Garritan, Kontakt soft wares or whatever else it takes to produce really high quality recordings -sound output - from my Finale files, and the question is: is the sound card that comes with the machine good enough or do I or should I change it an install a different card such as the M-Audio Audiophile PCI Audio card? This and whatever other information regarding how to obtain the best possible sound quality will be welcome. At the time I am working on a Mac G3 with Finale 2004, I have already purchased Fin 2005 to install it on the G5 as soon as I get it. Thanks a million to all in advance. Godofredo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
Sorry, Dennis (and by extension, Crystal); much as I'd really love tohave this be anopportunity to agree with you, my documented research shows that the term'young' will legally define anyone aged 47 or younger until this coming Saturday. The bar, on that day, will then be raised to 48 and younger. Furthermore, I fully intend to copyright the term 'young' and will allot its usage only by those paying a hefty rental fee. And I for one, intend not to pass the first bar I find, raised or no. Sincerely, Schirmer Peters, Attorneys-at-Law Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm - Original Message - From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park At 03:34 PM 2/22/05 -0500, you wrote:what is the cutoff age for "young" these days?55 years 11 months 9 days. So I'm still young until tomorrow.D___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
On 23 Feb 2005 at 14:10, Keith Helgesen wrote: I really owe Crystal a huge apology! It was my original reference to The Emperors Clothes and *my* perception of the Art as being like traffic diversion banners- to which Crystal gave qualified agreement! . . . Not one person has disputed her esthetic reaction. . . . Since then that lovely lady has been harangued, berated and, for some reason, required to defend her view! . . . What she's been taken task for is the illogical statement that the money for The Gates could have been spent on schools. It patently could not, as without the art installation, there would be no money generated to be paid to the schools. . . . I personally thought it arty-farty rubbish! That's MY opinion. You won't change it. If you wish to waste time trying- go for it! I see no one in this discussion making any attempt whatsoever to dissuade you or Crystal or anyone else from their personal esthetic reactions to art -- all the disputation has been entirely on non- esthetic issues. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
Sorry. The bar has already been raised to 54. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mariposa Symphony Orchestra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:16:04 -0800 Sorry, Dennis (and by extension, Crystal); much as I'd really love to have this be an opportunity to agree with you, my documented research shows that the term 'young' will legally define anyone aged 47 or younger until this coming Saturday. The bar, on that day, will then be raised to 48 and younger. Furthermore, I fully intend to copyright the term 'young' and will allot its usage only by those paying a hefty rental fee. And I for one, intend not to pass the first bar I find, raised or no. Sincerely, Schirmer Peters, Attorneys-at-Law Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html http://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm - Original Message - From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park At 03:34 PM 2/22/05 -0500, you wrote: what is the cutoff age for young these days? 55 years 11 months 9 days. So I'm still young until tomorrow. D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] new and improved text tool
hi all,
i am submitting a proposal to CODA, and invite
your additions: please feel free to let me know
if there are things i have missed which you feel
need updating, improvement, implementation, or if
you feel certain points i have made need to be
altered, clarified, or otherwise edited.
disclaimer: i am not interested in starting an
endless slew of commentary concerning my view
vs. your view and who should decide what is
right. while i will certainly not claim to
have some sort of uniquely enlightened and
perfect vision of the situation, the list is
compiled according to what i believe to be
necessary, what i feel the priorities are (some
proposals are in fact elaborations of others'
ideas already voiced on this list). wherever it
might seem to be possible (it usually is), i have
proposed user-definable variations so that the
(new) Text Tool might suit all users' needs.
1) if you wish to simply voice your support of
the proposals, please contact me privately (tell
me your full name, what you do - composer,
educator, publisher - , and your web address) and
i will be happy to include your name on the list
of undersigners when i send the message to CODA.
2) if you disagree with the nature of the
proposed changes, please bring up the issue on
this list, your comments will certainly be taken
into consideration as i edit the message before
sending it to coda.
3) if you disagree completely with me, and wish
to tell me nothing more than you've got it all
wrong, i instead invite you to compile a list of
your own concerns and submit it to coda, thus
sparing us both of a needless waste of time and
energy.
n'hésitez pas de commenter en francais.
ihr könnte gern auf deutsch kommentieren.
jef
** as this message is already quite long, please
quote only those points you are directly
responding to and remove all other non-relevant
bits of text from the reply.**
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Dear CODA/MakeMusic,
Finale is close to being able to provide a
professional level of typographical control for
publishing. The overhaul of the Expression Tool
in F2004 was by no means unimportant, however
there are several issues which I believe would
render those improvements more complete.
Implementation of the following issues will, in
my view, turn current discussions of
greatly-needed and welcome additions and
improvements into discussions of revolutionary
improvements regarding the Text Tool.
The following is what i would love to read in the What's new in Finale 200?.
jef chippewa
PS before submitting this list to you, the ideas
were hashed out on the Finale List
finale@shsu.edu, managed by Mr Henry Howey.
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THE NEW TEXT TOOL
Because of overlapping functionality, the
previous expression tool and text tool have been
combined into one powerful text tool which offers
all the previous features of both tools, albeit
with some revolutionary improvements.
The term Text is used to indicate an
individually-defined item in the Text List,
whether it contains an individual character (such
as dynamics), a word or string of words, or one
or more paragraphs.
GENERAL
* Text can be assigned to an individual note or
measure (as with the old Expression Tool) or to a
page or range of pages (as with the old Text
Tool).
* Once assigned, default positioning of the
individual Text can be altered or overridden, by
double-clicking the text's handle in the score,
clicking override, and redefining the
positioning (this does not affect the original).
VIEWING
* In order to assist the user in improving use
available monitor space, and to increase
efficiency in searching and maintaining the Text
List, the dialogue box for the Text Tool now has
a larger default size, in addition to being
resizable, both vertically and horizontally. The
size and position of the Text Window is saved in
the Finale preferences.
* The user can define the number of expressions
visible in the Text List dialogue box (definable
in the document options [text]: view n lines /
view full vertical screen / other?).
* The height of the individual item lines in the
Text List has been increased by 25-50%
(previously, any Text above 14pt fixed and many
music symbols - usually 24pt - were only
partially visible). The user can define the size
of the lines in the Document Options [Text]:
{smaller, small, normal, big, bigger}; or as a
percentage of the default size {50%, 75%, 100%,
150%, 200%}
* Clicking on a Text in the list displays it in a
vertically-scrollable box to the right of the
settings instead of opening a separate dialogue
box (i.e. it now functions similar to the
Document Options list).
* In the Text Designer (previously Text
Expression Designer), the Text and Playback
definitions both appear when clicking on the
Text Definition tab, and the Note Positioning
and the Measure Positioning definitions both
appear when clicking on the Positioning tab.
* Font settings for the individual Texts are no
longer a
