Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On May 29, 2006, at 6:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: In short, there is no hard and fast rule about whether repeats are obligatory just because they are found in the score, even if it's the composer's autograph. Wow. Really? I would have thought that something like

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: The one thing that would be lost would be the analytical value of the older notation, which tells you this is exactly the same music that you're playing both times whereas writing it out does not tell you that immediately. The second thing that would be lost

Re: [Finale] Repeat box bugs (was External Numeric keypad - FinWin)

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 29, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Bill wrote: The lines that form repeat boxes are not smart, that is, they keep the same length regardless of how the music gets spaced, and they do not break intelligently at system breaks. Christopher That's why I always use Custom Line Styles for my

[Finale] FinMac 2006d popup names for tools on the Main Palette

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
This forwarded from a colleague, but I am interested in the answer too. Finale 2006 tells me what each tool on the palette does, by popping up a sign for the palette tool when my mouse sits on it for more than a second. I'd like to be able to turn this function off. I can't find this in the

Re: [Finale] Restoring default page layouts..

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 29, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: There's really only three types of musicians: those who can count, and those who can't. ~ Me 8-) Some of whom can only count to 4. And-a-one, and-a-two... Musicians notoriously can't count past four. Until it

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 30, 2006, at 6:10 AM, dhbailey wrote: Personally, I think the composers would laugh over our constant discussions of their intentions with regards to repeats -- I bet they were much like us, using the same music in any number of different situations, some of which would require

Re: [Finale] Restoring default page layouts..

2006-05-30 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On May 29, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: There's really only three types of musicians: those who can count, and those who can't. ~ Me 8-) Some of whom can only count to 4. And-a-one, and-a-two... Musicians notoriously can't

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006d popup names for tools on the Main Palette

2006-05-30 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: This forwarded from a colleague, but I am interested in the answer too. Finale 2006 tells me what each tool on the palette does, by popping up a sign for the palette tool when my mouse sits on it for more than a second. I'd like to be able to turn this function off.

[Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Godofredo Romero
yesterday i expent the whole day making a piano part to accompany the second movement of a concerto for cello and violin and at the end of the day's session, when i was about to make the routine backups of my work, all but three bars of a 101 bars piece, were gone, disappeared, blank, erased,

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 28, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: yesterday i expent the whole day making a piano part to accompany the second movement of a concerto for cello and violin and at the end of the day's session, when i was about to make the routine backups of my work, all but three bars of a

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
The other thing to do is have some sort of daily backup of all your files. I know I've saved myself a couple of times by having an archive of files around... Christopher Smith wrote: Sorry about your loss. My understanding is that neither make backups when saving NOR auto save is the

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Phil Daley
At 5/28/2006 03:09 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: yesterday i expent the whole day making a piano part to accompany the second movement of a concerto for cello and violin and at the end of the day's session, when i was about to make the routine backups of my work, all but three bars of a 101 bars

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
Mr. Hogwood has a lot more cache with me. That's cachet. Cache (pron. cash) means a small, hidden supply of something. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Gerald Berg
Conversely don't use Fin 2006 Jerry Gerald Berg On 30-May-06, at 12:13 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 5/28/2006 03:09 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: yesterday i expent the whole day making a piano part to accompany the second movement of a concerto for cello and violin and at the end of the day's

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Ha! How about don't use a computer. Keep it with pen and paper. Don't use a Mac. Oh come on. If you are going to use anything, it should be a Mac. No viruses, no spyware. That right there outta get you to get one. dc wrote: Gerald Berg écrit: Conversely don't use Fin 2006 Or don't use a

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Eric Dannewitz / 2006/05/30 / 11:59 AM wrote: The other thing to do is have some sort of daily backup of all your files. I know I've saved myself a couple of times by having an archive of files around... 6 am every morning, my entire Finale file directory is backed up to iDisk automatically.

Re: [Finale] Re: External Numeric keypad - FinWin

2006-05-30 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Yeah, that is one of the dumber things about the shape designer, but then again, as we have already all discussed in detail, they could really improve that tool significantly in a number of ways. -Scot On 5/29/06, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 May 2006 at 11:06, Ken Moore

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 30, 2006, at 12:53 PM, dc wrote: Eric Dannewitz écrit: Ha! How about don't use a computer. Keep it with pen and paper. Don't use a Mac. Oh come on. If you are going to use anything, it should be a Mac. No viruses, no spyware. That right there outta get you to get one. And the

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Gerald Berg
But of course this is not Apple's bug this is Finale's bug. This program is so bug ridden it might as well have fleas and no one has solutions for them. e.g. my score expression bug in 2005b. Best suggestion I got was use Fin 2006 but, as it turns out, I might wind up with no file at all!

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Don Hart
Is this the File Overwrite bug (which I've never experienced) or is this the Scary bug which I reported last fall, which indeed, scared me into continuing to use 2005 until about two months ago. I've heard that the bug I reported (along with Darcy and Javier Ruiz) was fixed in, I believe, 2006c.

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 May 2006 at 15:09, Godofredo Romero wrote: i have developed the working habit of saving almost every time i make an entry and disabled the make backups when saving files option from finale because i don't trust it and blame it for being somewhat the culprit of the dreaded overwrite

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 May 2006 at 7:08, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: David Fenton wrote: Repeats were obligatory in the repertory Christopher Hogwood plays *only* if you *vary* the repeat in some way. If you don't have anything different to say in the repeat, then you're under no obligation to take it.

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's cachet.Cache (pron. cash) means a small, hidden supply of something. Damn autofill -- Kim Patrick ClowThere's really only two types of music: good and bad. ~ Rossini ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 30/05/2006 21:32:29 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damn autofill Isn't that love of motor cars? Cheers, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.ukDulcian Wind Quintet: http://dulcianwind.co.uk

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 30, 2006, at 2:13 PM, dc wrote: Christopher Smith écrit: With incremental backups, you only lose the work you've done since you last saved under a new name. Well, this is in itself the recognition of an unacceptable bug. And until MM officially recommends such a policy, most users

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Godofredo Romero
i am using finale 2006c and let me inform you that it happened again today but luckily i have a backup. what i decided to do now is to save as to a different hard drive every four bars. i am starting to suspect that this odd behavior has to do somehow with the way de document is configured

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 30, 2006, at 4:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 30/05/2006 21:32:29 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damn autofill Isn't that love of motor cars?   Heh, I think autophilia is love of... wait a minute, this is a family list! (oops!) 8-) Christopher

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Damn autofill Isn't that love of motor cars? Cheers, Lawrence Only in the U.K. ;)Cheerio !Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Counting [was: Restoring default page layouts..]

2006-05-30 Thread Ken Moore
keith helgesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote My drummer once said- Counting in seven is easy; One, two, three, four, five, six, se-, ven. The conductor George Hurst has a tale of an early performance of Tchaikovsky Symphony 6 in which, as was not unusual for the time, the conductor sight-read it

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Perhaps upgrade to 2006d??? Godofredo Romero wrote: i am using finale 2006c and let me inform you that it happened again today but luckily i have a backup. what i decided to do now is to save as to a different hard drive every four bars. i am starting to suspect that this odd behavior has to

[Finale] DC repeats [was: Layout for ABA form]

2006-05-30 Thread Ken Moore
dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do know that the times I have tried taking those minuets with repeats on da capos, the balance seems totally wrong with some of them when the repeats are taken, I (and others) have gotten the feeling of oh god, not again when yet another insipid minuet melody is

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 28, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: i am using finale 2006c and let me inform you that it happened again today but luckily i have a backup. what i decided to do now is to save as to a different hard drive every four bars. i am starting to suspect that this odd behavior has to do

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 30, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Perhaps upgrade to 2006d??? MakeMusic's official position is that version d only offers Intel Mac installation and support, no new features or bug fixes. So unfortunately, and out of character for most Finale updates, there is no likely

Re: [Finale] i just want to share one not wanted experience

2006-05-30 Thread Godofredo Romero
unfortunately i dumped the file away into the trash can and am working with the "save as version" i made in a separate HD. gr Christopher Smith wrote: On May 28, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Godofredo Romero wrote: i am using finale 2006c and let me inform you that it happened again today

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Carl Dershem
Andrew Stiller wrote: Mr. Hogwood has a lot more cache with me. That's cachet. Cache (pron. cash) means a small, hidden supply of something. Hmmm... perhaps Hogwood has left a small hidden supply of something with him? cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/#

Re: [Finale] Layout for ABA form

2006-05-30 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
David Fention writes:Hogwood has replaced one categorical tradition with another one. No, not really. I thinkChristopher Hogwoodjustbelieves in observing da capo marks that's in the music. What you see is what you get. No more, no less. At least you can say he's taking the music at it's face