For those of us who play natural horn, parts transposed for horn in F are a
nuisance I did a concert last week where we had to back-transpose bnrcause
orignal parts were not provided.
Even when I play the modern instrument I would never play from transposed
parts - as John said, there is
The last time I had to mark up a set of orchestral parts from a critical
Bärenreiter edition of a Mozart opera, there were two sets of horn parts. The
horn players told me they preferred to use the parts written as in the
original, without key signatures.
As to David's original question, I
Trying again,
A few years ago I had to ask the same question and I got the solution.
There was and easy answer which involved changing a number - like 6 to 7 -
which would make the key sig flats instead of sharps.
Stan
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Staff attributes, transposition, key signature, other, interval=2, key alter
= -10.
James Cooper
Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
www.ModeZ.com
Write it for trumpet in A
On 30 October 2010 10:17, Stan Lord amus...@me.com wrote:
Trying again,
A few years ago I had to ask the same question and I got the solution.
There was and easy answer which involved changing a number - like 6 to 7 -
which would make the key sig flats instead
The usual transposition for a Bb instrument is Interval 1 and Key Alter 2,
meaning one step up and add two sharps. You need the trumpet part to be written
in Gb major, so the settings should be two steps up and enough flats to cancel
the four sharps of E major and create the six flats for Gb
I'm in 2011, but I think you could do it in 2010.
Staff attributes,
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Stan Lord amus...@me.com wrote:
Trying again,
A few years ago I had to ask the same question and I got the solution.
There was and easy answer which involved changing a number - like 6 to
At 6:42 AM -0600 10/29/10, James Cooper wrote:
I thought the tradition was to not use key signatures for horns. (Scores I
have here are consistent with that.) But I'm not a horn player, so I'm sure
someone might have a more complete answer.
That was indeed the tradition for natural horn, and
Stan Lord wrote:
A few years ago I had to ask the same question and I got the solution.
There was and easy answer which involved changing a number - like 6 to 7 -
which would make the key sig flats instead of sharps.
In the Staff transposition dialog box, changing the value in the Key
At 8:42 AM +0200 10/29/10, dc wrote:
David H. Bailey écrit:
MusicXML export works wonderfully from Finale,
and Sibelius comes with the ability to import
MusicXML built-in, so it's really a very
painless and pretty accurate process these days.
I don't know about the latest version, but I
Can I email a 2011 file to someone to convert to an XML file so I can use it
in 2010?
Please respond directly. Thanks!
Ryan
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At 11:29 PM -0500 10/29/10, Robert Patterson wrote:
I
don't personally know a single professional horn player who works from
F-transposed parts.
Yes, and that's what the folks on the jazz and commercial side need
to understand. Part of an orchestral horn player's pre-professional
education
I don't know any professional horn player who has any difficulty with key
signatures worth talking about. The reason we write in the accidentals is
that usually rehearsal time is short. If we miss one we write it in so we
won't miss it again. If the parts pass thru multiple orchestras (as is often
I can do that.
I exported a rather complex 2011 file and imported it into fin2008 for my
client who was using fin2008.
I think you can do that with any file and as long as it's in xml you can
import it into any version?
Michael Mathew
mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net
mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
Thanks for your offer. I found someone to convert it for me.
On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Michael Mathew mmathew1...@comcast.net wrote:
I can do that.
I exported a rather complex 2011 file and imported it into fin2008 for my
client who was using fin2008.
I think you can do that with
Hi John,
As I recall, it was Coda who boycotted the effort
to come up with a universally compatible file
format, something like MIDI. And to be fair, it
might have been impossible to do, but I suspect
that it was a marketing decision at a time when
Finale was unquestionably on top.
I see two possible explanations for this:
1. A mistake
2. Since any non-stopped notes on that staff line played by a natural horn
player will, indeed, be a Bb, the key signature reflects this reality. The
key signature actually notates the horn as being in F mixolydian. This
would be highly
On 29 Oct 2010 at 23:29, Robert Patterson wrote:
I can't speak about critical editions of classical pieces, because
I've only seen original notation in those editions. (Frankly, it
surprises me to learn an F-transposed part might be available from,
e.g., Bärenreiter.)
Nobody said that such a
On 30 Oct 2010 at 10:01, Florence + Michael wrote:
The last time I had to mark up a set of orchestral parts from a
critical Bärenreiter edition of a Mozart opera, there were two sets of
horn parts. The horn players told me they preferred to use the parts
written as in the original, without
On 30 Oct 2010 at 14:33, Raymond Horton wrote:
I see two possible explanations for this:
1. A mistake
2. Since any non-stopped notes on that staff line played by a natural
horn player will, indeed, be a Bb, the key signature reflects this
reality. The key signature actually notates the
I agree, nobody said it. It was surprising to think about the possibility
considering who I would have thought the target market for a critical
edition might be. I can state that many performance materials based on
critical editions do not include F-transposed horn parts. (My knowledge is
mainly
I know you were asking about horns, but a flute/recorder friend of
mine mentioned in passing that the Barenreiter edition of Handel's
Water Music has the flute part( (in the G major suite) in the
original French violin clef and it was for a flute tuned to G. She
hated the fact she was having to
Pro horn players prefer the original parts, yes, but that flute part is a
whole different ball o' worms. Slip a transposed part in there, goodness!
Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
VISIT US at rayhortonmusic.com
Download FontExplorer (free version) and use it to clear the font cache. I
suspect that will fix your problem.
JB
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On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:00 PM, jjtk...@gmail.com jjtk...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
I recently purchased Finale
At 7:21 PM -0400 10/30/10, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
I know you were asking about horns, but a flute/recorder friend of
mine mentioned in passing that the Barenreiter edition of Handel's
Water Music has the flute part( (in the G major suite) in the
original French violin clef and it was for a
Hey JB,
Thanks for the suggestion. I did that but no luck. It seems like
something in Finale since the fonts work in other programs.
John
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM, JRB j...@blanemusic.com wrote:
Download FontExplorer (free version) and use it to clear the font cache. I
suspect that
Huh, that is not what the fonts used to be named. And they were not otf
Yes, Bill dropped the BD Notes because it was basically Maestro with a few
things added which were now in other fonts he was making, like Articulations.
And I think there was the grey area of it being pretty much Maestro if
As far as horn transpositions go, the worst are not the Brahms parts in H.
The worst are the Wagner parts that change transposition every few bars -
part of the early experimentation in which Wagner treated valves as
quick-change crooks. In the first 16 bars of the first horn part of the
famous
Thanks Eric, that fixed it.
The problem is indeed with the fact that the new OpenType fonts have
different names than the old PS and TT fonts. None of the .mus files
that come with the Productivity 5.0 package (and thus their chord
libraries) have been updated with the new font names. Once I
Enjoy. It's good stuff that package.
On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:42 PM, jjtk...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Eric, that fixed it.
The problem is indeed with the fact that the new OpenType fonts have
different names than the old PS and TT fonts. None of the .mus files
that come with the
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