Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Wed Jan 26, at WednesdayJan 26 11:58 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Matt, Close: E G# A# B# D = E7 (#11 #5) (Though the actual chord symbol would have the #11 stacked vertically above the #5, with both alterations enclosed in tall brackets.) I've never encountered what you

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Smith
I just have a few clarifications. Matthew seems to have some older concepts of jazz chords, which, while not actually WRONG, are potentially confusing. On Thu Jan 27, at ThursdayJan 27 1:35 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Matthew, Do you ever use things like Cadd2 to indicate CDEG? Or

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Thu Jan 27, at ThursdayJan 27 1:41 AM, Nigel Hanley wrote: I no longer use Cadd2 but simply C2. I'd like to use G4 instead of Gsus4, but feel that's going a bit far. There was a now-dead convention in the 70s for naming a stack of 4ths, like G C F from the bottom up, as G4, so I

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Florence + Michael
These look like what you're after: http://www.sengpielaudio.com/ChordNameFinder.htm http://tools.markabout.com/cspell3.htm I don't know how good they are: maybe some of the the list members will play around with them and give their opinions. Michael On 27 Jan 2011, at 01:55, Matthew Hindson

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Nigel Hanley
What are those two different definitions? C2 seems quite clear to me, as a commercial arranger. I have never had a problem with this nomenclature in Australia. Commercial charts here are written to be played, on sight, without rehearsal, and such chord terminology has yet, in my twenty five

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Nigel Hanley
Also, Christopher, I was referring specifically to the sus4 chord, and abbreviating it to the 4 chord, not to an uncommon, rarely used 70s convention, which obviously doesn't apply to this debate. On 28/01/2011, at 12:21 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Thu Jan 27, at ThursdayJan 27 1:41

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread christopher.smith
Nigel, I had described this in another reply on this topic. It is possible to interpret C2 as either C D G (Cadd2omit3) or as C D E G (Cadd2). I completely believe you that you have never had trouble with it, as there are regional conventions that everyone in a given region seems to understand

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread christopher.smith
Well, around here there is a very popular fake book, written by a Montrealer, that uses that convention and causes some discussion every time one of those tunes is read, so I wouldn't want anyone to reference it when reading my charts. The 70's were not THAT long ago! Despite its length, I

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Nigel Hanley
Christopher, I agree with you on both points. Yes, C2 could be inferring no 3rd. Were it important, I would write that. So with the issue of using C2, rather than the more unwieldy forms, yes, there could be some doubt. But really, in a pop chart, a contemporary rhythmic song, the third is

Re: [Finale] OT: 70s

2011-01-27 Thread Nigel Hanley
Christopher, I almost wish the 70s weren't that long ago in some ways. Back then I was a young man, with a resident gig in a club, usually a ten minute drive from my apartment, just time enough to smoke a cigarette, before I parked right outside the club. I didn't have a wife, a mortgage, or

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Parker
A small difference. I write C2(no 3) Reasonably simple. I see charts a lot that say C9 but it is clearly major not dominant - a bad error. Steve P. On 27 Jan 2011, at 17:27, Nigel Hanley i...@nigelhanley.com wrote: Christopher, I agree with you on both points. Yes, C2 could be inferring

[Finale] Re: TGTools and 2011

2011-01-27 Thread Michael Good
Hi Dennis Does Dolet 5 give better results than the built in XML import/export to downgrade files? The big advantage with Dolet 5 for Finale comes from the import into 2008. There are 3 years' worth of new features and bug fixes compared to what is built into Finale 2008. There are also

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread John Howell
At 11:55 AM +1100 1/27/11, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: Forgive if this is a dumb or simplistic question, but does anyone know of such a thing on the 'net wherein you can specify letter names and it will give the variety of jazz chord names for such a chord? Thanks in advance Matthew

[Finale] Finale Mac 2011 question

2011-01-27 Thread J D Thomas
In past versions of Finale, at least up thru 2007, one could hilight a measure or partial measure and then option-shift-click to paste it into another part of the file. This no longer seems to work as expected in Finale 2011 and the horrible online manual is no help. Did MM remove it or

{Spam} Re: [Finale] Finale Mac 2011 question

2011-01-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/27/2011 2:04 PM, J D Thomas wrote: In past versions of Finale, at least up thru 2007, one could hilight a measure or partial measure and then option-shift-click to paste it into another part of the file. This no longer seems to work as expected in Finale 2011 and the horrible online

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] Finale Mac 2011 question

2011-01-27 Thread Don Hart
The Mac modifier combinations in 2009 are option/shift to bring up the Edit Filter before copying, and option to copy as is. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 1/27/2011 2:04 PM, J D Thomas wrote: In past versions of Finale, at least up thru 2007, one

Re: [Finale] Finale Mac 2011 question

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On my Mac it still works that way. Opt-click pastes using the current filter settings, while opt-sh-click leads you to the filter dialogue box first. Maybe you have the filter settings pared down to something that doesn't copy anything. New in recent versions (I think 2007) is that you can