Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
Thanks Ray! I put a staff style in the piccolo line, and it appears to have taken care of the whole problem. At least so far as I can see now. ajr -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Raymond Horton Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 4:27 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves I should add that I'm running Windows finale 2012 Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 On Jul 10, 2016 5:15 PM, "Raymond Horton" wrote: > In a big project I'm trying to finish up, I have this problem often, > but not all the time. Sometimes the staves hide normally. Sometimes they > don't. > In the latter I use staff styles > > Raymond Horton > Composer, Arranger > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired > Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 > > On Jul 10, 2016 4:53 PM, "Aaron Rabushka" wrote: > > All of my groups except for the 3 organ staves are set to HIDE NORMALLY. > > -Original Message- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On > Behalf Of Christopher Smith > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:18 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves > > 1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see > certain staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. > 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group > attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? > A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. > > Christopher > > > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka > > > wrote: > > > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the > > full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank > > staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using > > Finale > > 2014 under Windows 8.1. > > > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
I should add that I'm running Windows finale 2012 Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 On Jul 10, 2016 5:15 PM, "Raymond Horton" wrote: > In a big project I'm trying to finish up, I have this problem often, but > not all the time. Sometimes the staves hide normally. Sometimes they don't. > In the latter I use staff styles > > Raymond Horton > Composer, Arranger > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 > > On Jul 10, 2016 4:53 PM, "Aaron Rabushka" wrote: > > All of my groups except for the 3 organ staves are set to HIDE NORMALLY. > > -Original Message- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf > Of Christopher Smith > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:18 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves > > 1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see certain > staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. > 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group > attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? > A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. > > Christopher > > > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka > wrote: > > > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the > > full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank > > staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale > > 2014 under Windows 8.1. > > > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
In a big project I'm trying to finish up, I have this problem often, but not all the time. Sometimes the staves hide normally. Sometimes they don't. In the latter I use staff styles Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 On Jul 10, 2016 4:53 PM, "Aaron Rabushka" wrote: All of my groups except for the 3 organ staves are set to HIDE NORMALLY. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:18 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves 1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see certain staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. Christopher > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote: > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the > full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank > staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale > 2014 under Windows 8.1. > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
All of my groups except for the 3 organ staves are set to HIDE NORMALLY. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:18 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves 1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see certain staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. Christopher > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote: > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the > full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank > staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale > 2014 under Windows 8.1. > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
If all else fails, use staff styles Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 On Jul 10, 2016 4:49 PM, "Aaron Rabushka" wrote: > I am working in page view, and I control-A to select everything. I haven't > checked the group settings yet. > > -Original Message- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf > Of Christopher Smith > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:18 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves > > 1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see certain > staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. > 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group > attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? > A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. > > Christopher > > > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka > wrote: > > > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the > > full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank > > staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale > > 2014 under Windows 8.1. > > > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
I am working in page view, and I control-A to select everything. I haven't checked the group settings yet. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:18 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves 1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see certain staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. Christopher > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote: > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the > full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank > staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale > 2014 under Windows 8.1. > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Score Order Question
Actually, looking at the best example piece, the Haydn Concertante, I find two different score orders: Henle puts all the obligato instruments in as orchestral parts, so the Bassoon is above the other bassoon. Landon puts them all above the strings, but their internal order is winds first, then strings. This last order seems to make most sense to me, even if this is not according to tessitura (nor is any standard orchestral score). Thanks for the input! Johannes Am 10.07.16 um 19:07 schrieb dr.a.s. weinstangel: > Yes, as below. According to tessitura. Makes sense, doesn't it? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Johannes Gebauer >> > wrote: >> > >> > Thanks, that's also what I thought. Which order, though? Wind first, >> > then viola, or as below according to tessitura? >> > >> > Johannes >> > >>> >> Am 10.07.16 um 13:00 schrieb dr.a.s. weinstangel: >>> >> I would certainly prefer to see the solos in the middle, underneath the >>> >> winds and above the strings. >>> >> >>> >> Dr A.S. Weinstangel >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> > On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer > wrote: > > Hi, > > long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list: > > 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, > plus > the following solo instruments: > > Flauto obligato > Clarinetto obligato > Viola obligato > Fagotto obligato > > Where do these go? What is standard? > > Thanks for any insights... > > Johannes > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> >> ___ >>> >> Finale mailing list >>> >> Finale@shsu.edu >>> >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >> >>> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> > >> > ___ >> > Finale mailing list >> > Finale@shsu.edu >> > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > >> > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
On Sun, July 10, 2016 3:58 pm, Aaron Rabushka wrote: > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the full > score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank staves still > show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale 2014 under Windows > 8.1. Did you select the staves to be hidden? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
1. It only works in Page View, not Scroll. If you want to only see certain staves while in Scroll View, you want Staff Sets instead. 2. Is the staff you are trying to hide part of a group? Are the group attributes set to “hide normally” or “hide only when all staves are empty”? A staff can be part of more than one group, so be careful. Christopher > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote: > > Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the full > score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank staves still > show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale 2014 under Windows > 8.1. > > Aaron J. Rabushka > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Hiding Empty Staves
Is there some trick to getting the empty staves to disappear in the full score? I have deleted their contents many times, yet the blank staves still show up when I check HIDE EMPTY STAVES. I am using Finale 2014 under Windows 8.1. Aaron J. Rabushka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Score Order Question
Yes, as below. According to tessitura. Makes sense, doesn't it? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Johannes Gebauer > wrote: > > Thanks, that's also what I thought. Which order, though? Wind first, > then viola, or as below according to tessitura? > > Johannes > >> Am 10.07.16 um 13:00 schrieb dr.a.s. weinstangel: >> I would certainly prefer to see the solos in the middle, underneath the >> winds and above the strings. >> >> Dr A.S. Weinstangel >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Hi, long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list: 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, plus the following solo instruments: Flauto obligato Clarinetto obligato Viola obligato Fagotto obligato Where do these go? What is standard? Thanks for any insights... Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Score Order Question
Thanks, that's also what I thought. Which order, though? Wind first, then viola, or as below according to tessitura? Johannes Am 10.07.16 um 13:00 schrieb dr.a.s. weinstangel: > I would certainly prefer to see the solos in the middle, underneath the winds > and above the strings. > > Dr A.S. Weinstangel > > Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list: >> > >> > 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, plus >> > the following solo instruments: >> > >> > Flauto obligato >> > Clarinetto obligato >> > Viola obligato >> > Fagotto obligato >> > >> > Where do these go? What is standard? >> > >> > Thanks for any insights... >> > >> > Johannes >> > ___ >> > Finale mailing list >> > Finale@shsu.edu >> > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > >> > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Score Order Question
I would certainly prefer to see the solos in the middle, underneath the winds and above the strings. Dr A.S. Weinstangel Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer > wrote: > > Hi, > > long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list: > > 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, plus > the following solo instruments: > > Flauto obligato > Clarinetto obligato > Viola obligato > Fagotto obligato > > Where do these go? What is standard? > > Thanks for any insights... > > Johannes > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Score Order Question
Hi, long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list: 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, plus the following solo instruments: Flauto obligato Clarinetto obligato Viola obligato Fagotto obligato Where do these go? What is standard? Thanks for any insights... Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
