Re: [Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Indeed. Coming from 2012 Finale it would be a huge improvement. > On Nov 28, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > There are some quite useful changes since Fin12. For me, the most important > is beat-attached smart shapes. This is quite a significant

Re: [Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Patterson
There are some quite useful changes since Fin12. For me, the most important is beat-attached smart shapes. This is quite a significant improvement if you use linked parts. There is also a key bug fix since Fin12 that is important if you use plugins in part view. I think there is more, but I can't

Re: [Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Mike Greensill
"But even so, feature-wise there is virtually no difference between 14.5 and 25." Robert Hardly seems worth it even for $99...especially when I'm quite happy with 2012. Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Robert

Re: [Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Patterson
The TGTools Mac 64-bit beta is definitely better than the TGTools Mac beta for Fin14.5. My experience is that human playback is MUCH faster to start in 25 than 14.5. I haven't seen the crash on exit. But even so, feature-wise there is virtually no difference between 14.5 and 25. The main one I

Re: [Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I noticed it was faster than 2014.5 and that TGTools 64 bit seemed to work better. > On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Steve Parker wrote: > > >> The time signature dialogue can finally be clicked again, rather than >> dragged (as in versions up to 2014), but the key

Re: [Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Steve Parker
> The time signature dialogue can finally be clicked again, rather than dragged > (as in versions up to 2014), but the key signature dialogue (which was fine) > can now not be clicked and has to be dragged. Further to this, the key sig box does have clickable arrows, but not when setting up

[Finale] Finale 25

2016-11-28 Thread Steve Parker
I’ve been playing with the trial. I can’t see any difference between that and 2014.5 other than telling me that Ambience is not supported. Still no option to ‘reassign playback sounds' to Garritan. Still tells me it has unexpectedly quit when I quit it. Still takes ages the first time I hit

Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout

2016-11-28 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Mon, November 28, 2016 9:59 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score > Manager, it adds

Re: [Finale] Finale 25 upgrade

2016-11-28 Thread rglan
At 3:20 PM -0500 28/11/16, David H. Bailey wrote: >If I had upgraded for the initial "deal" of $149 I would be very very >angry with them for making this $99 offer. Me too. >I did not fall for it back when it was first announced, and I'm not >going to fall for it this time around either. Well I

Re: [Finale] Finale 25 upgrade

2016-11-28 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/28/2016 2:43 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: > jef - > > Phenomenal response. Thank you greatly. > > And FWIW, I’m right there on that knife-edge with you, and will also probably > snag the “upgrade” today. > > I hate to reward the beast by feeding it when it’s done nothing to

Re: [Finale] Finale 25 upgrade

2016-11-28 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
jef - Phenomenal response. Thank you greatly. And FWIW, I’m right there on that knife-edge with you, and will also probably snag the “upgrade” today. I hate to reward the beast by feeding it when it’s done nothing to deserve sustenance, but – yeah. As you wrote. Les Marsden (209)

Re: [Finale] Finale 25 upgrade

2016-11-28 Thread Dean Rosenthal
Thanks, jef. Much appreciated. Dean -- Dean Rosenthal www.deanrosenthal.org www.stonespiece.com > On Nov 28, 2016, at 5:06 AM, SN jef chippewa > wrote: > > > that could be because there doesn't seem to be one. the discussion back in > august was -- in my

Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Two points: I'm adding a new staff, so there won't be any notes in it. "Hide Empty Staves" does not always restore my systems to the exact staff spacing as before, so it is not an acceptable solution. FWIW: The reason for this is that I need to add (in this case a percussion) instrument after

Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout

2016-11-28 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/28/2016 9:59 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score > Manager, it adds the new

Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout

2016-11-28 Thread Christopher Smith
I’m not sure I understand the question. How would adding another staff NOT affect the layout? It makes every system exactly one staff taller. You can choose the new staff everywhere except the place you want it with the Staff Tool and select Hide Empty Staves. This only works in Page view. For

[Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone know a way

Re: [Finale] finale's 12-step programme

2016-11-28 Thread Eric Fiedler
Could it have been on the website on April 1, 2016? ;-) *** Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de webmas...@habsburgerverlag.de *** > Am 28.11.2016 um 11:35 schrieb SN jef chippewa

[Finale] finale's 12-step programme

2016-11-28 Thread SN jef chippewa
did anyone else see this on the finale website? can no longer find the page where i came across it, but thought i would share it, it really is a beautiful thing. 1. We admitted we were powerless without our client base -- that our software had become unmanageable. 2. Came to believe that the

Re: [Finale] Finale 25 upgrade

2016-11-28 Thread SN jef chippewa
that could be because there doesn't seem to be one. the discussion back in august was -- in my interpretation -- more about resignation than joy. a speed issue on mac has been fixed. so the loss of speed experienced witth F2014 has been fixed. it is now as fast as F2012. and we should