Re: [Finale] OT: More Xenakis

[Eduardo Moguillansky]

I did not get to know Xenakis myself, but many people who studied and
worked with him. Regarding his electronic music, there is an anecdote told
by Takemitsu, were he observed that in spite of having planned many things
very meticulously, he would then listen to parts and change things on the
spot.

Anyway, you probably might know this, but here you can check his book
"Formalized Music" which describes some of his ways of working over the
years:

https://monoskop.org/Xenakis

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:

> Earlier I posted a question about getting musicxml out of descendants of
> the programs that Xenakis used for stochastic processing. But a more basic
> question is, does anyone know how Xenakis himself worked? Did he simply
> listen to the electronic output and transcribe it for instruments? Or was
> there some more methodical process?
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Robert Patterson]

That sounds like the problem is probably Sierra then. Here's some good
news: I added JW Copy Part Layout to my list for the modal fix. (And it
works equally with 1.03 or 1.04.) So it may be that you'll find it easier
to leave it open with that in place.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:

> Odd. It’s definitely 1.04, and definitely in the only plugins folder for
> 2014.5, replacing the 1.03.
> Also, the problem is now different. It immediately quits Finale rather
> than just disappearing.
> Back to 1.03 for now..
>
> Steve P.
>
> > On 16 Jan 2017, at 15:08, Robert Patterson 
> wrote:
> >
> > That's weird. I had your identical symptoms with JW Copy Part Layout and
> > 14.5 until I updated to 1.04. I have a hard time believing the problem is
> > Sierra but it might be. The more likely explanation is you copied the
> 1.04
> > file to the wrong place, but since you've double checked I'm stumped. I
> > wish the plugin had a way to confirm the version while running.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Steve Parker 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I restarted a few times after 1.04 quit it.
> >> 2014.5 works fine with Sierra generally, other than  it crashes when I
> >> quit. It's done that since 2014.
> >>
> >>> On 16 Jan 2017, at 14:32, Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm still on 10.11, but 1.04 works fine there for me (with 14.5). Are
> you
> >>> certain you restarted Finale after updating? It could also be a Sierra
> >>> problem. I believe Fin14d is incompatible with Sierra but I don't
> recall
> >>> the status of 14.5.
> >>>
>  On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Parker 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  Hmm.. just updated from 1.03 to 1.04.
>  Finale instantly quits without warning when I hit ‘close’ on the
> >> plug-in,
>  now..
>  Is 1.04 ok with 2014.5 and Sierra?
> 
>  Steve P.
> 
> > On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:09, Robert Patterson <
> >> rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
>  wrote:
> >
> >> I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.
> >
> > That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had
> >> this
> > problem until I updated.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker 
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
> >> without restarting Finale.
> >> It disappears and won’t come back.
> >>
> >> Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
> >>
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[Finale] OT: More Xenakis

[Robert Patterson]

Earlier I posted a question about getting musicxml out of descendants of
the programs that Xenakis used for stochastic processing. But a more basic
question is, does anyone know how Xenakis himself worked? Did he simply
listen to the electronic output and transcribe it for instruments? Or was
there some more methodical process?
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Steve Parker]

Odd. It’s definitely 1.04, and definitely in the only plugins folder for 
2014.5, replacing the 1.03.
Also, the problem is now different. It immediately quits Finale rather than 
just disappearing.
Back to 1.03 for now..

Steve P.

> On 16 Jan 2017, at 15:08, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> That's weird. I had your identical symptoms with JW Copy Part Layout and
> 14.5 until I updated to 1.04. I have a hard time believing the problem is
> Sierra but it might be. The more likely explanation is you copied the 1.04
> file to the wrong place, but since you've double checked I'm stumped. I
> wish the plugin had a way to confirm the version while running.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I restarted a few times after 1.04 quit it.
>> 2014.5 works fine with Sierra generally, other than  it crashes when I
>> quit. It's done that since 2014.
>> 
>>> On 16 Jan 2017, at 14:32, Robert Patterson 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm still on 10.11, but 1.04 works fine there for me (with 14.5). Are you
>>> certain you restarted Finale after updating? It could also be a Sierra
>>> problem. I believe Fin14d is incompatible with Sierra but I don't recall
>>> the status of 14.5.
>>> 
 On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Parker 
>> wrote:
 
 Hmm.. just updated from 1.03 to 1.04.
 Finale instantly quits without warning when I hit ‘close’ on the
>> plug-in,
 now..
 Is 1.04 ok with 2014.5 and Sierra?
 
 Steve P.
 
> On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:09, Robert Patterson <
>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
 wrote:
> 
>> I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.
> 
> That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had
>> this
> problem until I updated.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker 
 wrote:
> 
>> Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
>> without restarting Finale.
>> It disappears and won’t come back.
>> 
>> Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Robert Patterson]

That's weird. I had your identical symptoms with JW Copy Part Layout and
14.5 until I updated to 1.04. I have a hard time believing the problem is
Sierra but it might be. The more likely explanation is you copied the 1.04
file to the wrong place, but since you've double checked I'm stumped. I
wish the plugin had a way to confirm the version while running.


On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:

> Yes, I restarted a few times after 1.04 quit it.
> 2014.5 works fine with Sierra generally, other than  it crashes when I
> quit. It's done that since 2014.
>
> > On 16 Jan 2017, at 14:32, Robert Patterson 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm still on 10.11, but 1.04 works fine there for me (with 14.5). Are you
> > certain you restarted Finale after updating? It could also be a Sierra
> > problem. I believe Fin14d is incompatible with Sierra but I don't recall
> > the status of 14.5.
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Parker 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmm.. just updated from 1.03 to 1.04.
> >> Finale instantly quits without warning when I hit ‘close’ on the
> plug-in,
> >> now..
> >> Is 1.04 ok with 2014.5 and Sierra?
> >>
> >> Steve P.
> >>
> >>> On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:09, Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.
> >>>
> >>> That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had
> this
> >>> problem until I updated.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
>  without restarting Finale.
>  It disappears and won’t come back.
> 
>  Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
> 
>  Steve P.
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Steve Parker]

Yes, I restarted a few times after 1.04 quit it. 
2014.5 works fine with Sierra generally, other than  it crashes when I quit. 
It's done that since 2014. 

> On 16 Jan 2017, at 14:32, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm still on 10.11, but 1.04 works fine there for me (with 14.5). Are you
> certain you restarted Finale after updating? It could also be a Sierra
> problem. I believe Fin14d is incompatible with Sierra but I don't recall
> the status of 14.5.
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.. just updated from 1.03 to 1.04.
>> Finale instantly quits without warning when I hit ‘close’ on the plug-in,
>> now..
>> Is 1.04 ok with 2014.5 and Sierra?
>> 
>> Steve P.
>> 
>>> On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:09, Robert Patterson 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.
>>> 
>>> That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had this
>>> problem until I updated.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
 without restarting Finale.
 It disappears and won’t come back.
 
 Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
 
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Robert Patterson]

I'm still on 10.11, but 1.04 works fine there for me (with 14.5). Are you
certain you restarted Finale after updating? It could also be a Sierra
problem. I believe Fin14d is incompatible with Sierra but I don't recall
the status of 14.5.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:

> Hmm.. just updated from 1.03 to 1.04.
> Finale instantly quits without warning when I hit ‘close’ on the plug-in,
> now..
> Is 1.04 ok with 2014.5 and Sierra?
>
> Steve P.
>
> > On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:09, Robert Patterson 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.
> >
> > That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had this
> > problem until I updated.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
> >> without restarting Finale.
> >> It disappears and won’t come back.
> >>
> >> Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
> >>
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Steve Parker]

Hmm.. just updated from 1.03 to 1.04.
Finale instantly quits without warning when I hit ‘close’ on the plug-in, now..
Is 1.04 ok with 2014.5 and Sierra?

Steve P.

> On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:09, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
>> I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.
> 
> That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had this
> problem until I updated.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:
> 
>> Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
>> without restarting Finale.
>> It disappears and won’t come back.
>> 
>> Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] WinFin 2014.5: playback restriction

[Steve Parker]

Do you have an expression where playback is accidentally set to ‘tempo’ with 
value 0 or 1 or something?

Steve P.

> On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:37, Houghton, Mark [wmh]  wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> Apologies for what will seem a simple question to most of you. I'm playing 
> back a score which, after 30 measures, ceases to playback. I want to review 
> the whole score by listening in its entirety (for proof reading). Can 
> somebody suggest were the 30 measure restriction lies, so that I can alter to 
> encompass the whole score.
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> Mark
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[Finale] WinFin 2014.5: playback restriction

[Houghton, Mark [wmh]]

Dear all,
Apologies for what will seem a simple question to most of you. I'm playing back 
a score which, after 30 measures, ceases to playback. I want to review the 
whole score by listening in its entirety (for proof reading). Can somebody 
suggest were the 30 measure restriction lies, so that I can alter to encompass 
the whole score.

Many thanks in advance.

Mark

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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Robert Patterson]

>I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without restarting Finale.

That sounds like you need to update it to the latest version. I had this
problem until I updated.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Steve Parker  wrote:

> Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once
> without restarting Finale.
> It disappears and won’t come back.
>
> Finale 2014.5, Sierra.
>
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Re: [Finale] Mac Modeless Plugin Windows

[Steve Parker]

Not sure if it’s related, but I can only use ‘Copy Part Layout’ once without 
restarting Finale.
It disappears and won’t come back.

Finale 2014.5, Sierra.

Steve P.
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