[Finale] [OT] concert in edmonton with LUX:NM

[SN jef chippewa]

my fellow users of finale will inevitably ask 
about the notation i used for cooking of the 
classic italian tomato sauce?  and what about the 
walnut cracked open, the shell's shards falling 
on the stage?  and are the bike bells notated on 
a pitched 5-line staff or a 1-line percussion 
staff?  and what the hell does "quarter note = 
chicken" mean?!?!?!

=

is that garlic and basil i smell?

come out and join us for an eclectic evening of 
works performed by berlin's LUX:NM contemporary 
music ensemble.  the group is playing works by 
composers from / living in germany, including my 
"cabinet de curiosités", commissioned by LUX in 
2015.
http://facebook.com/jef.chippewa/posts/1439776322708217

the festival opened this evening and runs through sunday.

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SUNDAY 19 MAR (@19h00) PROGRAMME

Holy Trinity Anglican Church
10037 84 Ave | Edmonton AB
TIX: 
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/now-hear-this-festival-of-new-music-tickets-31957267046

Hector Moro -- Lichtzwang, ein wütendes Spielzeug (2002, rev. 2008)
for trombone, accordion and saxophone

Marcus Antonius Wesselmann -- QUARTETT 4 -- contemplation (2014)
for soprano saxophone, trombone, violin und accordion

Brigitta Muntendorf -- Yes Master (2011)
performance for three female performers, one male performer and tape

Ole Hübner -- music for j.t. #5b: secret snares (2016)
for alto saxophone, trombone, accordion and audio playback


Maximilian Marcoll -- Compound No. 1a: CAR SEX VOICE HONKER (2009)
for solo accordion and electronics

jef chippewa -- cabinet de curiosités (2015)
concert-theatre-fluxus work in 9 parts for 
saxophone, accordion, violin, trombone and sound 
objects
cabinet de curiosités was commissioned by LUX:NM


LUX:NM's performance in Now Hear This is made 
possible through the kind support of the 
Goethe-Institut.
http://luxnewmusic.de | http://facebook.com/LUXNMberlin

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Re: [Finale] finale 25

[Lawrence Yates]

I've now completely reinstalled Finale and everything seems to be working
now BUT - on playback some of the instruments (descant recorder for
example) seem unaffected by the volume controls in the mixer.  This makes a
bit of a mess of any playback files using these instruments.  Has anyone
else found this and found a solution please?

Lawrence.

On 14 March 2017 at 15:09, Lawrence Yates  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just bought and installed Finale25 windows.  the programme runs but
> Garritan appears not to be there.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

If this library works in F2014, I would be a happy receiver too.

Klaus in DK

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 14. mar. 2017 kl. 14.57 skrev Dr. Raphael D. Thöne 
> :
> 
> So am I! :-)
>> Am 14.03.2017 um 14:51 schrieb Martin Nickless :
>> 
>> Hi 
>> That would be great would you mind sending it to me 
>> Thanks
>> Martin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2017, at 13:44, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't have a link.  I use a library that I build based on a very 
>>> comprehensive library somebody else made years ago. I wish I could give 
>>> credit because it was obviously an enormous amount of work. They 
>>> meticulously built just about every chord suffix you could ever need 
>>> into a nice-looking "handwritten" format.
>>> 
>>> I believe I took that and eliminated redundant entries that were styles 
>>> I would not use, and then I reorganized the numbering scheme to group 
>>> related entries. There are 144 in this library.
>>> 
>>> Once the library is imported unto your score, you can enter most chords 
>>> by typing the suffix (such as "Eb7(#9)"). Some are ambiguous, so you 
>>> might have to specify the suffix by its number. For example, in my case 
>>> "C:112" gets me C"(Add #9 Add b9).
>>> 
>>> Importing is non-trivial. You should remove all the chords from your 
>>> score first, which actually ends up being a little complicated. I have 
>>> documented the procedure on another computer that I can't access at the 
>>> moment. Once the default chords are gone, you import the comprehensive 
>>> library.
>>> 
>>> I would be happy to provide the library I use along with a PDF that is a 
>>> 2-page reference chart if anybody is interested.  I caution that there 
>>> are multiple nomenclature systems in use. I think this one is fairly 
>>> consistent with Berklee.
>>> 
>>> This all seems far more complicated then it deserves to be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3/14/2017 4:34 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
 Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are
 circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord
 suffixes he was asking about?
 
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[Finale] finale 25

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

I've just bought and installed Finale25 windows.  the programme runs but
Garritan appears not to be there.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Lawrence


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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Christopher Smith]

That would be Utilities>CHANGE>chords… transpose. 

This only transposes chord symbols. I have to use it sometimes when I’ve copied 
a passage from a source where the key signature is C major to a target file in 
A minor.

Works fine in my newest version, Mac.

C


> On Tue Mar 14, at TuesdayMar 14 9:49 AM, Craig Parmerlee 
>  wrote:
> 
> In my most recent experience with F25, I couldn't transpose chord 
> symbols at all, if you mean using Utility-Transpose.
> 
> Finale will transpose chords if you copy to a transposing instrument. 
> And Finale will transpose chords if you change the key signature, but 
> Utility-Transpose changed notes, but not chords. That's how it worded 
> (or rather, didn't work) for me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/14/2017 8:46 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> Also, don’t transpose chords by a DIATONIC third! Make it a minor third! 
>> That’s very important. It’s only coincidence that it worked with a C note; 
>> it won’t work with an E, for example.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Dr . Raphael D . Thöne]

So am I! :-)
> Am 14.03.2017 um 14:51 schrieb Martin Nickless :
> 
> Hi 
> That would be great would you mind sending it to me 
> Thanks
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2017, at 13:44, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have a link.  I use a library that I build based on a very 
>> comprehensive library somebody else made years ago. I wish I could give 
>> credit because it was obviously an enormous amount of work. They 
>> meticulously built just about every chord suffix you could ever need 
>> into a nice-looking "handwritten" format.
>> 
>> I believe I took that and eliminated redundant entries that were styles 
>> I would not use, and then I reorganized the numbering scheme to group 
>> related entries. There are 144 in this library.
>> 
>> Once the library is imported unto your score, you can enter most chords 
>> by typing the suffix (such as "Eb7(#9)"). Some are ambiguous, so you 
>> might have to specify the suffix by its number. For example, in my case 
>> "C:112" gets me C"(Add #9 Add b9).
>> 
>> Importing is non-trivial. You should remove all the chords from your 
>> score first, which actually ends up being a little complicated. I have 
>> documented the procedure on another computer that I can't access at the 
>> moment. Once the default chords are gone, you import the comprehensive 
>> library.
>> 
>> I would be happy to provide the library I use along with a PDF that is a 
>> 2-page reference chart if anybody is interested.  I caution that there 
>> are multiple nomenclature systems in use. I think this one is fairly 
>> consistent with Berklee.
>> 
>> This all seems far more complicated then it deserves to be.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/14/2017 4:34 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>>> Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are
>>> circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord
>>> suffixes he was asking about?
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Martin Nickless]

Hi 
That would be great would you mind sending it to me 
Thanks
Martin

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2017, at 13:44, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> I don't have a link.  I use a library that I build based on a very 
> comprehensive library somebody else made years ago. I wish I could give 
> credit because it was obviously an enormous amount of work. They 
> meticulously built just about every chord suffix you could ever need 
> into a nice-looking "handwritten" format.
> 
> I believe I took that and eliminated redundant entries that were styles 
> I would not use, and then I reorganized the numbering scheme to group 
> related entries. There are 144 in this library.
> 
> Once the library is imported unto your score, you can enter most chords 
> by typing the suffix (such as "Eb7(#9)"). Some are ambiguous, so you 
> might have to specify the suffix by its number. For example, in my case 
> "C:112" gets me C"(Add #9 Add b9).
> 
> Importing is non-trivial. You should remove all the chords from your 
> score first, which actually ends up being a little complicated. I have 
> documented the procedure on another computer that I can't access at the 
> moment. Once the default chords are gone, you import the comprehensive 
> library.
> 
> I would be happy to provide the library I use along with a PDF that is a 
> 2-page reference chart if anybody is interested.  I caution that there 
> are multiple nomenclature systems in use. I think this one is fairly 
> consistent with Berklee.
> 
> This all seems far more complicated then it deserves to be.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/14/2017 4:34 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>> Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are
>> circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord
>> suffixes he was asking about?
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Craig Parmerlee]

In my most recent experience with F25, I couldn't transpose chord 
symbols at all, if you mean using Utility-Transpose.

Finale will transpose chords if you copy to a transposing instrument. 
And Finale will transpose chords if you change the key signature, but 
Utility-Transpose changed notes, but not chords. That's how it worded 
(or rather, didn't work) for me.



On 3/14/2017 8:46 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
> Also, don’t transpose chords by a DIATONIC third! Make it a minor third! 
> That’s very important. It’s only coincidence that it worked with a C note; it 
> won’t work with an E, for example.
>

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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Craig Parmerlee]

I don't have a link.  I use a library that I build based on a very 
comprehensive library somebody else made years ago. I wish I could give 
credit because it was obviously an enormous amount of work. They 
meticulously built just about every chord suffix you could ever need 
into a nice-looking "handwritten" format.

I believe I took that and eliminated redundant entries that were styles 
I would not use, and then I reorganized the numbering scheme to group 
related entries. There are 144 in this library.

Once the library is imported unto your score, you can enter most chords 
by typing the suffix (such as "Eb7(#9)"). Some are ambiguous, so you 
might have to specify the suffix by its number. For example, in my case 
"C:112" gets me C"(Add #9 Add b9).

Importing is non-trivial. You should remove all the chords from your 
score first, which actually ends up being a little complicated. I have 
documented the procedure on another computer that I can't access at the 
moment. Once the default chords are gone, you import the comprehensive 
library.

I would be happy to provide the library I use along with a PDF that is a 
2-page reference chart if anybody is interested.  I caution that there 
are multiple nomenclature systems in use. I think this one is fairly 
consistent with Berklee.

This all seems far more complicated then it deserves to be.




On 3/14/2017 4:34 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
> Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are
> circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord
> suffixes he was asking about?
>
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[David H. Bailey]

Hi Christopher,

I know that about not needing to attach chords to notes anymore but the 
original question involved music which had notes and chords which is why 
I did what I did.

Thanks for the clarification about specifying a minor third instead of a
diatonic third.  Choosing a diatonic third only works some of the time
-- that was my mistake.  Yes, it needs to be a minor third.  But I was 
talking about the notes, not about the chords when I discussed transposing.

Your method is much simpler than mine, although your method presupposes 
that he's entering the music from alto sax music.

I gathered that he was entering from a concert pitch fake book and then 
transposing the music for alto sax, in which case he'd need to transpose 
everything for alto sax and then transpose just the chords up a minor third.

Just shows there are several ways to accomplish the same thing in Finale 
-- part of its charm and part of its curse.  :-)

Thanks,
David



On 3/14/2017 8:46 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
> Hi David and Graeme,
>
> David, you don’t have to attach chords to entries any more. So your
> method of entering 4 quarters and then trying things didn’t need the
> 4 quarters. This is a blessing and a curse, in that you don’t have to
> enter notes (or rests in my former case, so they don’t play back) but
> if you have rhythmic notation you DO need to enter notes (to turn
> into stemmed slashes) and that ends up spacing those surrounding
> measures differently. It also makes it next to impossible to resize
> chord symbols.
>
> Also, don’t transpose chords by a DIATONIC third! Make it a minor
> third! That’s very important. It’s only coincidence that it worked
> with a C note; it won’t work with an E, for example.
>
> Graeme, the way I would do that particular task is transpose the
> chords instead, which is only one operation. This can be found in
> Utilities menu>Change>Chords… Transpose. Make sure you transpose the
> chords up a minor third if the notes are in in alto key.
>
> Christopher
>
>
>> On Mar 14, 2017, at 7:31 AM, David H. Bailey
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On 3/14/2017 5:00 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
>>> Well, I have a question about chords and melodies.  I play alto
>>> sax and want to print my sax lines out transposed so I can read
>>> them.  But if I put chord symbols over the bar, Finale likes to
>>> transpose the chords too! I get around this by putting a second
>>> stave, for piano, and put the chord symbols in that staff.  So
>>> that’s ok as a work around and I just print the sax part, without
>>> the piano chords. Do you get what I mean? Is there a better way
>>> around this?  What do other sax players do?
>>>
>>
>> Most of the time people playing transposing instruments would
>> rather see the chords in the correct key for their instrument.  So
>> a C7 chord would show as an A7 chord for alto sax so that an alto
>> player looking to improvise only needs to think about the A7 chord
>> and doesn't have to think "C7 should be A7 on my instrument."  But
>> I can understand you wanting to do as you ask if you want a pianist
>> or guitarist to simply play an accompaniment without doing anything
>> with the melody.  Of course you can accomplish that by creating
>> your leadsheet for alto sax, printing the alto sax part, then
>> printing the same thing in concert pitch and then your accompanist
>> will see the proper melody and chord agreement and you'll have the
>> alto sax part to play from.
>>
>> One way to accomplish what you want: 0) if playback is important,
>> set the instrument as you want either in the setup wizard or change
>> the instrument using the Score Manager. 1) Document Menu - Display
>> In Concert Pitch 2) enter the notes and chords in concert pitch 3)
>> select the music, use the Utilities/Transpose to transpose down a
>> diatonic third 4) Use the key signature tool to change the key to
>> what you want to reflect the key you want the music in. You should
>> end up with what you want -- the notes transposed for alto sax and
>> the chords in the original concert pitch.
>>
>> I just did that experiment creating a measure in concert pitch, 4
>> quarter notes C with a C7 chord above the first note.
>>
>> I ended up with the notes in the key of A but with the chord still
>>  showing as C7.
>>
>> I think that's essentially what you want.
>>
>>
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Christopher Smith]

Hi David and Graeme,

David, you don’t have to attach chords to entries any more. So your method of 
entering 4 quarters and then trying things didn’t need the 4 quarters. This is 
a blessing and a curse, in that you don’t have to enter notes (or rests in my 
former case, so they don’t play back) but if you have rhythmic notation you DO 
need to enter notes (to turn into stemmed slashes) and that ends up spacing 
those surrounding measures differently. It also makes it next to impossible to 
resize chord symbols.

Also, don’t transpose chords by a DIATONIC third! Make it a minor third! That’s 
very important. It’s only coincidence that it worked with a C note; it won’t 
work with an E, for example.

Graeme, the way I would do that particular task is transpose the chords 
instead, which is only one operation. This can be found in Utilities 
menu>Change>Chords… Transpose. Make sure you transpose the chords up a minor 
third if the notes are in in alto key.

Christopher


> On Mar 14, 2017, at 7:31 AM, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
> On 3/14/2017 5:00 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
>> Well, I have a question about chords and melodies.  I play alto sax and want 
>> to print my sax lines out transposed so I can read them.  But if I put chord 
>> symbols over the bar, Finale likes to transpose the chords too! I get around 
>> this by putting a second stave, for piano, and put the chord symbols in that 
>> staff.  So that’s ok as a work around and I just print the sax part, without 
>> the piano chords.
>> Do you get what I mean?
>> Is there a better way around this?  What do other sax players do?
>> 
> 
> Most of the time people playing transposing instruments would rather see 
> the chords in the correct key for their instrument.  So a C7 chord would 
> show as an A7 chord for alto sax so that an alto player looking to 
> improvise only needs to think about the A7 chord and doesn't have to 
> think "C7 should be A7 on my instrument."  But I can understand you 
> wanting to do as you ask if you want a pianist or guitarist to simply 
> play an accompaniment without doing anything with the melody.  Of course 
> you can accomplish that by creating your leadsheet for alto sax, 
> printing the alto sax part, then printing the same thing in concert 
> pitch and then your accompanist will see the proper melody and chord 
> agreement and you'll have the alto sax part to play from.
> 
> One way to accomplish what you want:
> 0) if playback is important, set the instrument as you want either in 
> the setup wizard or change the instrument using the Score Manager.
> 1) Document Menu - Display In Concert Pitch
> 2) enter the notes and chords in concert pitch
> 3) select the music, use the Utilities/Transpose to transpose down a 
> diatonic third
> 4) Use the key signature tool to change the key to what you want to 
> reflect the key you want the music in.
> You should end up with what you want -- the notes transposed for alto 
> sax and the chords in the original concert pitch.
> 
> I just did that experiment creating a measure in concert pitch, 4 
> quarter notes C with a C7 chord above the first note.
> 
> I ended up with the notes in the key of A but with the chord still 
> showing as C7.
> 
> I think that's essentially what you want.
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[David H. Bailey]

On 3/14/2017 5:00 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
> Well, I have a question about chords and melodies.  I play alto sax and want 
> to print my sax lines out transposed so I can read them.  But if I put chord 
> symbols over the bar, Finale likes to transpose the chords too! I get around 
> this by putting a second stave, for piano, and put the chord symbols in that 
> staff.  So that’s ok as a work around and I just print the sax part, without 
> the piano chords.
> Do you get what I mean?
> Is there a better way around this?  What do other sax players do?
>

Most of the time people playing transposing instruments would rather see 
the chords in the correct key for their instrument.  So a C7 chord would 
show as an A7 chord for alto sax so that an alto player looking to 
improvise only needs to think about the A7 chord and doesn't have to 
think "C7 should be A7 on my instrument."  But I can understand you 
wanting to do as you ask if you want a pianist or guitarist to simply 
play an accompaniment without doing anything with the melody.  Of course 
you can accomplish that by creating your leadsheet for alto sax, 
printing the alto sax part, then printing the same thing in concert 
pitch and then your accompanist will see the proper melody and chord 
agreement and you'll have the alto sax part to play from.

One way to accomplish what you want:
0) if playback is important, set the instrument as you want either in 
the setup wizard or change the instrument using the Score Manager.
1) Document Menu - Display In Concert Pitch
2) enter the notes and chords in concert pitch
3) select the music, use the Utilities/Transpose to transpose down a 
diatonic third
4) Use the key signature tool to change the key to what you want to 
reflect the key you want the music in.
You should end up with what you want -- the notes transposed for alto 
sax and the chords in the original concert pitch.

I just did that experiment creating a measure in concert pitch, 4 
quarter notes C with a C7 chord above the first note.

I ended up with the notes in the key of A but with the chord still 
showing as C7.

I think that's essentially what you want.


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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[Graeme Gerrard]

Well, I have a question about chords and melodies.  I play alto sax and want to 
print my sax lines out transposed so I can read them.  But if I put chord 
symbols over the bar, Finale likes to transpose the chords too! I get around 
this by putting a second stave, for piano, and put the chord symbols in that 
staff.  So that’s ok as a work around and I just print the sax part, without 
the piano chords.
Do you get what I mean?
Is there a better way around this?  What do other sax players do?



> On 14 Mar 2017, at 7:34 pm, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
> On 3/13/2017 11:04 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>> On 3/11/2017 5:26 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>>> Instead of asking this list, you really should just try things.
>> I don't really think that is adequate advice.  Finale is really quite
>> obtuse in several areas, specifically chord symbols and percussion.
>> 
>> It seems to me the key to having success with chords depends on having a
>> good chord library installed. The library that comes by default is
>> pretty lame.  There are better user-built libraries circulating out there.
> 
> I quite agree that Finale can be very obtuse in several areas, 
> specifically the ones you name.
> 
> However, the question was asked if he could enter two very specific 
> chord suffixes.  I gave him the process.  Want to know how I learned 
> what that process was?  I tried things.
> 
> I almost never work with chords and very rarely work in Finale with 
> anything more exotic than 7th chords.  So how would I know the process 
> to enter the asked-for suffixes?  I tried things.  I entered 4 quarter 
> notes using speedy entry.  I then selected the chord tool.  I then 
> clicked on one of the quarter notes to enter the chord with one of the 
> asked-for suffixes.  Finale then opened the dialog to create the chord 
> suffix.  I typed it once, then I tried the same chord suffix on the next 
> quarter note and Finale entered it automatically.
> 
> Why did I have to try things to get the answer? Because the OP didn't 
> try and wanted/needed an answer.  I could have chosen not to answer but 
> I noticed that nobody else had answered with the detailed step-by-step 
> procedure.  Which I learned simply by trying things.
> 
> Which is why I said what I said.  If he had simply tried those chord 
> suffixes he was asking about, he would have learned that yes, indeed, 
> they could be entered.  And he would have learned the process of 
> creating his own chord suffix library.
> 
> Since you don't think my answer was adequate advice, I'll turn your 
> comment around on you: You said "There are better user-built libraries 
> circulating out there."  Yet you don't bother to give any links to any, 
> so I don't think your advice was very adequate either.
> 
> I at least provided him with a concrete procedure that he could then use 
> to achieve his desired result.  What you've said does nothing to further 
> his goal of using more exotic chord extensions.
> 
> Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are 
> circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord 
> suffixes he was asking about?
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[martin nickless]

Thanks for that
Off to
Sibelius for me
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 at 08:35, David H. Bailey 
wrote:

> On 3/13/2017 11:04 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> > On 3/11/2017 5:26 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
> >> Instead of asking this list, you really should just try things.
> > I don't really think that is adequate advice.  Finale is really quite
> > obtuse in several areas, specifically chord symbols and percussion.
> >
> > It seems to me the key to having success with chords depends on having a
> > good chord library installed. The library that comes by default is
> > pretty lame.  There are better user-built libraries circulating out
> there.
>
> I quite agree that Finale can be very obtuse in several areas,
> specifically the ones you name.
>
> However, the question was asked if he could enter two very specific
> chord suffixes.  I gave him the process.  Want to know how I learned
> what that process was?  I tried things.
>
> I almost never work with chords and very rarely work in Finale with
> anything more exotic than 7th chords.  So how would I know the process
> to enter the asked-for suffixes?  I tried things.  I entered 4 quarter
> notes using speedy entry.  I then selected the chord tool.  I then
> clicked on one of the quarter notes to enter the chord with one of the
> asked-for suffixes.  Finale then opened the dialog to create the chord
> suffix.  I typed it once, then I tried the same chord suffix on the next
> quarter note and Finale entered it automatically.
>
> Why did I have to try things to get the answer? Because the OP didn't
> try and wanted/needed an answer.  I could have chosen not to answer but
> I noticed that nobody else had answered with the detailed step-by-step
> procedure.  Which I learned simply by trying things.
>
> Which is why I said what I said.  If he had simply tried those chord
> suffixes he was asking about, he would have learned that yes, indeed,
> they could be entered.  And he would have learned the process of
> creating his own chord suffix library.
>
> Since you don't think my answer was adequate advice, I'll turn your
> comment around on you: You said "There are better user-built libraries
> circulating out there."  Yet you don't bother to give any links to any,
> so I don't think your advice was very adequate either.
>
> I at least provided him with a concrete procedure that he could then use
> to achieve his desired result.  What you've said does nothing to further
> his goal of using more exotic chord extensions.
>
> Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are
> circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord
> suffixes he was asking about?
>
>
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Re: [Finale] Quickest chord entry methord

[David H. Bailey]

On 3/13/2017 11:04 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> On 3/11/2017 5:26 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>> Instead of asking this list, you really should just try things.
> I don't really think that is adequate advice.  Finale is really quite
> obtuse in several areas, specifically chord symbols and percussion.
>
> It seems to me the key to having success with chords depends on having a
> good chord library installed. The library that comes by default is
> pretty lame.  There are better user-built libraries circulating out there.

I quite agree that Finale can be very obtuse in several areas, 
specifically the ones you name.

However, the question was asked if he could enter two very specific 
chord suffixes.  I gave him the process.  Want to know how I learned 
what that process was?  I tried things.

I almost never work with chords and very rarely work in Finale with 
anything more exotic than 7th chords.  So how would I know the process 
to enter the asked-for suffixes?  I tried things.  I entered 4 quarter 
notes using speedy entry.  I then selected the chord tool.  I then 
clicked on one of the quarter notes to enter the chord with one of the 
asked-for suffixes.  Finale then opened the dialog to create the chord 
suffix.  I typed it once, then I tried the same chord suffix on the next 
quarter note and Finale entered it automatically.

Why did I have to try things to get the answer? Because the OP didn't 
try and wanted/needed an answer.  I could have chosen not to answer but 
I noticed that nobody else had answered with the detailed step-by-step 
procedure.  Which I learned simply by trying things.

Which is why I said what I said.  If he had simply tried those chord 
suffixes he was asking about, he would have learned that yes, indeed, 
they could be entered.  And he would have learned the process of 
creating his own chord suffix library.

Since you don't think my answer was adequate advice, I'll turn your 
comment around on you: You said "There are better user-built libraries 
circulating out there."  Yet you don't bother to give any links to any, 
so I don't think your advice was very adequate either.

I at least provided him with a concrete procedure that he could then use 
to achieve his desired result.  What you've said does nothing to further 
his goal of using more exotic chord extensions.

Can you give some links to better user-built chord libraries which are 
circulating out there?  Specifically to ones which contain the chord 
suffixes he was asking about?


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