Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson
After a software product becomes mature, control passes from engineers to managers and marketers. This happens to every software I've ever worked with, including my own. It will happen to Dorico too, eventually. Yeah, the dongle is a deal breaker for me. On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:37 PM Eric

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yes, I would agree too. TGTools and other plugins make Finale perfectly fine for doing music. And it doesn’t require some stupid dongle to run on multiple computer. > On Jan 31, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > It seems as though the point of my plugin post is being lost. The

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread David H. Bailey
On 1/31/2019 4:37 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: [snip]> Nevertheless I would also dispute that the current dev staff at Makemusic lacks commitment or talent. On the contrary, my dealings with them reveal a talented staff that knows the code base and is committed to improving it. If there are

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, January 31, 2019 4:37 pm, Robert Patterson wrote: > What you absolutely *can't* do in Finale is multi-turn slurs like Dorico > apparently has. Oh, I so want these still. The gateway to flat slurs. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems as though the point of my plugin post is being lost. The point was that with 3rd-party plugins you can design a work flow in Finale that is highly efficient. That Dorico can achieve comparable efficiency out of the box is to its credit, but my point is that it is quite possible to achieve

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Steve Parker
Here are my most used plugins (JW and Patterson): Copy Part Layout - native in Dorico Instrument Change - native in Dorico Kitchen Department - native in Dorico Start New Piece - native in Dorico Yada Yada Tremelo - easily achieved and customised in Dorico Settings Scrapbook - I only used this to

Re: [Finale] Dorico test importing Finale XML

2019-01-31 Thread Jari Williamsson
AFAIK, it's the REVERSE direction that's the problem for Dorico? Once the data is in Dorico, you'll loose most of it trying to get it elsewhere. Best regards, Jari Williamsson On 2019-01-29 04:27, Craig Parmerlee wrote: OK, here are the results Score:

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread David H. Bailey
Craig makes some very important points. Added to the fact that Finale is basically frozen in time is it's horrible corporate history, having been sold from company to company because nobody has any idea what to do with it. There is a very real fear that someday whichever company owns Finale

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
If Finale were doing any significant developments to their product I'm sure we would be happy to talk about that.  It is the fact that Finale is basically frozen in time that causes people to think about what other options are available and practical. In the case of this thread, the main

Re: [Finale] Dorico test importing Finale XML

2019-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Thanks, Geraldo. I will keep that in mind.  My only concern is that if this is system tempo or tempo markings (i.e. text that will appear for all players), it has to be on the downbeat or else it will break up multi-measure rests. On 1/30/2019 1:35 PM, Gerardo Delgado wrote: I can move

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Paolo Alberto Rismondo
Hi all, It seems to me that this is 'Finale mailing list', not '... mailing list'. Thank you in advance for your kind attention, all best, Paolo A. Rismondo Il 30/01/2019 21:04, Craig Parmerlee ha scritto: Just to add a tidbit or two, there is currently no way in Dorico to have 2 parts

Re: [Finale] music softwares and 'politics'

2019-01-31 Thread paoloalbertorismondo
Hi David, I wrote: 'I see that many people (and increasingly so) likes to allow software (or maybe, other people) to do things ready for them'. The music software market (admittedly, 'a very tiny niche of a niche market') is only a small, and perhaps negligeable, part of a very general

Re: [Finale] music softwares and 'politics'

2019-01-31 Thread Paolo Alberto Rismondo
Hi, I wrote: 'I see that many people (and increasingly so) likes to allow software (_or maybe, other _p_eople_) to do things ready for them'. It is true, music software market 'is a very tiny niche of a niche market and nowhere near to affecting the entire population'. When I compared this

Re: [Finale] Dorico test importing Finale XML

2019-01-31 Thread Gerardo Delgado
> I can move the elements manually to relieve the stacking, but the staffs remain spaced apart. They don't adjust themselves after I relieve the stacking. So I may have to adjust some of the staff spacing manually. Hi Craig. I am working in some projects with Dorico and in cases like that I