Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Parker
On 8 Feb 2011, at 04:00, David W. Fenton wrote: I don't know what your point is by citing it. It doesn't at all relate to the topic we were speaking about -- it introduces a whole host of unrelated issues (so far as I can see). I thought to some small extent that we had gone on to a more

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Parker
. Steve P. On 5 Feb 2011, at 01:04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Feb 2011 at 0:16, Steve Parker wrote: http://en.chopin.nifc.pl/institute/publications/facsimile I've seen plenty of examples of Chopin's hand, and lots of facsimiles, but I didn't know about this wonderful resource -- thanks

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-04 Thread Steve Parker
No, the Alfred and some other editions make a point of stating where they've copied Chopin literally, often against the practice of earlier editions which have 'corrected' passages. Steve On 4 Feb 2011, at 19:24, David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com wrote: On 3 Feb 2011 at 23:43, Steve

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-04 Thread Steve Parker
beamed quavers rather than a dotted crotchet. Wrong but perfectly clear and uncluttered. Steve P. On 4 Feb 2011, at 23:55, Steve Parker wrote: No, the Alfred and some other editions make a point of stating where they've copied Chopin literally, often against the practice of earlier editions

Re: [Finale] clef change and beaming

2011-02-04 Thread Steve Parker
Is that solution yours? If so, permission to steal please?! I've had occasions where that is the perfect solution. Steve P. On 4 Feb 2011, at 23:45, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: depends on the context i would say.

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Parker
The first looks perfectly clear to me. The second needs two noteheads with the stems lined up and a dot for each aligned vertically. Steve P. On 3 Feb 2011, at 15:26, dc den...@free.fr wrote: I don't assume it's kosher to have two voices with only one notehead (and two stems), with a dot

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Parker
I think the two noteheads and dots are needed because the notes and dots don't mean the same as each other. The situation is different for an isolated bar than for a consistent rhythmic feature of the piece. Chopin for example often broke conventions rhythmically but was always elegantly

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Parker
The note with stem up needs to be before the note with stem down. I seem to be in a minority.. but to me the idea of two distinctly valued notes sharing a notehead is just bad. As far as I see the only decision to be made is wether you can neatly have the noteheads touching with the dots

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Parker
in all those places would clutter up the music unnecessarily. Context is everything. I wouldn't do this on a part where two wind instruments share the same staff, for instance, but pianists are used to music written this way. Michael On 3 Feb 2011, at 22:22, Steve Parker wrote: The note

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Parker
I should have learnt.. I'll change this to: The editions I have to hand Steve P. ;-) On 3 Feb 2011, at 22:21, Steve Parker wrote: Editions of Bach etc., where melodic lines are distinct, have two noteheads. ___ Finale mailing list Finale

Re: [Finale] dotted notes

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Parker
I have some facsimiles, but good editions (I like Alfred) usually preserve such things. Steve P. On 3 Feb 2011, at 22:50, David W. Fenton wrote: I have to ask what you're basing this on? Facsimiles of Chopin's autographs? Modern critical editions? The first editions? If it's anything other

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
On 1 Feb 2011, at 23:09, David W. Fenton wrote: What about Windows emulation on a Mac? There are a number of options there, in fact. I did try. The Windows version had its bugs and there were so many things to iron out that I made a decision to put my time into Finale rather than

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
About as modal as could be! A tie-in with the Graphire monk here I think ;-) Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 04:04, Raymond Horton wrote: OK, youse guys has lost me. Is Finale modal or non-modal? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
I've always wondered why lines are so thin in Finale. I couldn't imagine anyone using them without thickening them up. Staff lines, ledger lines, note stems, bar lines, ..., ... Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 06:26, Jari Williamsson wrote: MO, what you're talking about is based on very old

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
? Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Jari Williamsson wrote: On 2011-02-02 12:01, Steve Parker wrote: I've always wondered why lines are so thin in Finale. I couldn't imagine anyone using them without thickening them up. Staff lines, ledger lines, note stems, bar lines, ..., ... For me it's printer

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
That's not too far away from my defaults: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/01/22/string-quartet-i-vi/string-quartet-i-vi.pdf Steve P. http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/01/22/string-quartet-i-vi/string-quartet-i-vi.pdf On 2 Feb 2011, at 13:10, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Wed, February 2, 2011

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
I still can't get my head round this.. Surely at worst the difference should half a dot or so? To look significantly different we must be talking about an error of a couple of pixels at least on lines? Or where am I up a creek? My output has been consistent from HP to Samsung to Lexmark,

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
that there is a problem still, but one I can live with at any normal size. Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 15:13, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Wed, February 2, 2011 9:44 am, Steve Parker wrote: That's not too far away from my defaults: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/01/22/string-quartet-i-vi/string-quartet-i

Re: Line thickness (was: Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale)

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
My reason is that I don't want my bars to look like boxes, which they tend to if staff = bar lines. I like notes, stems and bar lines to be 'off' the page compared to the staff. Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 15:22, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: What's the reason for the thicker barlines

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
Yes, I would like exactly Dennis' staff lines, but can't make them work for me without silly barlines.. Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 15:17, dc wrote: Except that on the subject of line thickness, you do the reverse: your stems are thicker than your staff lines.

Re: [Finale] Italian term

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
I would use Volti (without subito unless it has to be quick) Segue for movements that continue without pause. Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 18:32, dc wrote: What's the standard Italian term to indicate that a movement isn't finished at the end of the page, and that it continues on the

Re: [Finale] Italian term

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
As an emergency sight reader I would understand Volti to mean turn. It would annoy me to see 'subito' or VS unless there was something immediately to play on the next page. Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 21:57, dc wrote: David H. Bailey écrit: Then I would put either V.S. or Volta subito to

Re: [Finale] Italian term

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Parker
I almost completely 99% certain that the indication should be volti subito not volta subito. It should carry the force of 'Do it now'! Steve P. On 2 Feb 2011, at 19:58, Giovanni Andreani wrote: wouldn't use Volti which means Turn but in a formal mode; as matter of fact one would better

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
And I would (controversially no doubt) put Igor Engraver above all of them.. Which is probably not good form on the FInale list ;-) The big caveat is that it's dead in the water.. Steve P. On 31 Jan 2011, at 23:52, Jari Williamsson wrote: On 2011-01-31 23:51, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote:

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
, and for the fastest input via computer keyboard, with auto- update and reflow and objects that moved out of each others' way automatically. A beautiful but expensive piece of software. Of course, it's also dead -- dead for 10 years as of yesterday. Dennis On Tue, February 1, 2011 6:19 am, Steve

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
on the Graphire website are very fine. Andrew On 1 February 2011 23:07, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I would agree as well with putting Graphire up there. The closest immediate output (in quality) to something like a Peter's edition. Steve P. On 1 Feb 2011, at 12:15, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
) to Finale. Steve P. On 1 Feb 2011, at 13:43, dc wrote: Steve Parker écrit: And I would (controversially no doubt) put Igor Engraver above all of them.. Which is probably not good form on the FInale list ;-) The big caveat is that it's dead in the water.. What prevents anyone from using dead

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
On 1 Feb 2011, at 16:06, Jari Williamsson wrote: IIRC, Igor supported slurs as well in entry mode? Yes. Articulations, Key/Time/Clef changes and Expressions at entry time are supported in Finale Simple Entry (but not hairpins and slurs). I find simple entry in Finale or Igor unusable

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
There are actually some examples on the website of what looks like untweaked output. http://www.noteheads.com/noteheads/pressf_set.html I'll send to your email. Steve P. On 1 Feb 2011, at 14:48, dc wrote: Steve Parker écrit: I can send you samples of mine. I would certainly appreciate

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
:15, Steve Parker wrote: I find simple entry in Finale or Igor unusable for proper work. Huh? I do all my entry in Simple Entry. And I would say that Simple Entry in Finale using the computer keyboard is very similar to Igor's computer keyboard input. Best regards, Jari Williamsson

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
I agree with this although I don't understand the technicalities of it. It was certainly a big part of the beta discussion towards the end. I think there was some problem with an easy OSX port too? Steve P. On 1 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Jari Williamsson wrote: I'd say the the real strength - as

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
Not sure to what extent you're kidding.. but Score was capable of serious results! Steve P. On 1 Feb 2011, at 19:58, Gerhard Torges wrote: Am 01.02.2011 um 15:35 schrieb David H. Bailey: If the examples on the website are very fine and the output you see in the hymnal is poor, Then the

Re: [Finale] Igor Engrave to re-enter the market?

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
Feb 2011, at 20:33, Gerhard Torges wrote: Hello! Am 01.02.2011 um 17:34 schrieb Steve Parker: Igor also had an equivalent to speedy which is what I use in Finale with only a laptop keyboard. I found this … Due to rumors about NoteHeads circulating on the Internet, we would like to make

Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

2011-02-01 Thread Steve Parker
On 1 Feb 2011, at 20:00, Gerhard Torges wrote: Hello! Am 01.02.2011 um 15:40 schrieb Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk: What prevents me from using it is that it only works in Mac OS9 or the Classic environment so it is dependent on an old mac staying alive. Or on complete emulation

Re: [Finale] transposition of parts in older scores: Fin 2011

2011-01-29 Thread Steve Parker
This may be one of my kludges.. I make the key sig. independent in that part, change the part's key sig to C with keep notes enharmonically, transpose notes if needed still. Steve P. On 29 Jan 2011, at 14:34, delius...@aol.com wrote: I have only recently gotten used to processing parts from

Re: [Finale] OT: Jazz chord names

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Parker
A small difference. I write C2(no 3) Reasonably simple. I see charts a lot that say C9 but it is clearly major not dominant - a bad error. Steve P. On 27 Jan 2011, at 17:27, Nigel Hanley i...@nigelhanley.com wrote: Christopher, I agree with you on both points. Yes, C2 could be inferring

Re: [Finale] Re: H positioning of notes in SC / PTs

2011-01-17 Thread Steve Parker
Hi! Can you clarify. Beat spacing (from the measure tool) is not linked at all? It seems that way to me but I take nothing in FInale for granted.. I should have said 'I still need to do a lot of faking the vertical lining up of notes in different staves on the score'. Steve P. On 17 Jan

Re: [Finale] H positioning of notes in SC / PTs

2011-01-16 Thread Steve Parker
This was going to be a question of mine. This workaround is already cleverer than mine which involves duplicating the whole file after the score is finished to do the parts.. I thought I'd just not found the box to tick.. If really true then it is insane. Notes get shifted to make the score

Re: [Finale] Where is plugins folder on 2011 Mac?

2011-01-16 Thread Steve Parker
Hard Drive: Library: Application Support: MakeMusic: Finale 2011: Plug- ins Steve P. On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:46, David Froom wrote: Hi, I know I used to know the answer to this... Could someone point me to the location of the new plugins folder for 2011 on a mac? I can't find it! And I

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] H positioning of notes in SC / PTs

2011-01-16 Thread Steve Parker
I understand legacy but after a few years of linked parts options for basic things could be available. I've come to Finale (albeit a couple of years ago) from an app that had linked parts more than a decade ago and dealt with them elegantly and flexibly. At the very least an option to

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] H positioning of notes in SC / PTs

2011-01-16 Thread Steve Parker
Ah.. this is good info! So beat handle spacing is unlinkable? After beat spacing in a part? I still need to do a lot of faking the vertical lining up of parts though. Steve P. On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:50, Darcy James Argue wrote: should also say that I rarely need to manually move notes so

Re: {Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] H positioning of notes in SC / PTs

2011-01-16 Thread Steve Parker
On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:47, SN jef chippewa wrote: steve please please please file a complaint, I will! After a couple of years back with Finale I'm only just getting to the point of working out which workarounds are needed and which come from ignorance.. Steve P.

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
On 15 Jan 2011, at 01:52, David W. Fenton wrote: 4/4+3/4 in a repeating pattern, and that would require time signature changes in the score (whether you displayed them or not), I've dealt with even this by having 7/4 bars, dotting the intermediate barlines down the parts with notes in them

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
On 15 Jan 2011, at 03:53, Raymond Horton wrote: Using the old vertical and horizontal bits for multi-measures may give you a warm feeling, but even the few players who know what they are do not generally bother to read them - they only read the number of total bars rest instead. If you

Re: [Finale] {Spam} Courtesy accidentals

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
I've just played with it to be sure, but for me it adds brackets if the option is ticked and removes brackets if the option is unticked. Steve P. On 15 Jan 2011, at 12:36, dc wrote: Giovanni Andreani écrit: I feel there is an option where one can specify to use brackets or not That's

Re: [Finale] {Spam} Courtesy accidentals

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
Plug-ins: Note Beam and Rest Editing: Cautionary Accidentals Steve P. On 15 Jan 2011, at 09:43, dc wrote: Is there a way (plug-in) to remove all brackets around courtesy accidentals? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] {Spam} Courtesy accidentals

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
Sorry, my messages are arriving out of order.. Steve P. On 15 Jan 2011, at 13:01, Steve Parker wrote: Plug-ins: Note Beam and Rest Editing: Cautionary Accidentals Steve P. On 15 Jan 2011, at 09:43, dc wrote: Is there a way (plug-in) to remove all brackets around courtesy accidentals

[Finale] Boxes around text

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
What is the sensible method for putting text on a page with a box round it? I've scoured the manual.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] Boxes around text

2011-01-15 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks! I didn't look at standard frame as I assumed that was what I already had. Custom frame had no option.. I knew it would be easy! Steve P. On 15 Jan 2011, at 15:39, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/15/2011 9:53 AM, Steve Parker wrote: What is the sensible method for putting text

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:59, Richard Yates wrote: You can still use automatic music spacing (for instance in Speedy Entry or adding articulations) on later measures without it affecting earlier spacing UNTIL you do an Update Layout for the whole document. I can't live without an Update

Re: [Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
On 14 Jan 2011, at 02:23, mjol...@ticnet.com wrote: Ok. I'm already playing with page number offsets as well.. A shame that it can't be specified or at least follow the offset page number to determine left and right rather than the real page number. Ah, but one can specify the offset page.

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
I'd like to add another option: turn off or hide courtesy time signature on an individual basis.. In general I'd like to be able to move anything anywhere, hide anything at all and lose the space given to hidden items if and only if I want. Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 03:25, Brian

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
On 14 Jan 2011, at 03:18, SN jef chippewa wrote: i never use auto-spacing, so maybe i'm not the right person to comment on this, but doesn't it only affect measures you enter (speedy/simple)? so you could do half a score and adjust and know that the only changes to what you have already

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
Ok. Although I find that update layout cures all manner of other gremlins and evils too. Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 14:30, Richard Yates wrote: No. Update Layout affects only the width and number of measures in systems. It has no effect on relative spacing adjustments inside a measure

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
Hi Chuck, On 14 Jan 2011, at 15:03, Chuck Israels wrote: On Jan 14, 2011, at 3:15 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I'd like to add another option: turn off or hide courtesy time signature on an individual basis.. Selection Tool/Edit Measure Attributes/Hide Cautionary Time Sig. Brilliant

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
Without denigrating anyone else on the list and with grateful thanks to everybody, I cannot believe I'm being helped by Chuck Israels!! (Assuming you are that Chuck Israels..) Thank you Chuck!! Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 15:03, Chuck Israels wrote:

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
: Not sure if you're aware of a couple of keyboard shortcuts that help me with this: hitting the escape key twice takes you to the selection tool; double-clicking an item (in the selection tool) takes you to that item's tool. Don Hart On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
It didn't take me long to find an example of something that trips me up. I can't double-click an accidental to move it nor to take me to its tool. I also can't click one to choose to hide it. I do know where the accidental mover is in the special tools but I think that all elements in a GUI

[Finale] replace smart shapes

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
My questions will be at an end soon... Is there any way to replace say all the glissandi with another shape (retrospectivally)? I remember reading before about gliss./accidental/dot collision - was there ever a solution? Thanks, Steve P. ___

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
I've had a look over my own scores which have 4/2 in them. In practice the single semibreve rest doesn't seem ambiguous. Especially with consecutive empty bars of 3/2 and 4/2 different whole bar rests look funny. Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 16:42, Robert Patterson wrote: I would stipulate

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
that trips me up. Why can I not click or double click on a tie and adjust in the same way as a slur? Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 17:34, Chuck Israels wrote: On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Steve Parker wrote: It didn't take me long to find an example of something that trips me up. I can't double

[Finale] Thanks!

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
I'm sure it is not needed...but.. A massive thanks to all who have helped!! I'm aware that I've fairly flooded the list.. I hope to return the favour (or favor!) at some point! Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 17:21, Chuck Israels wrote: On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Without

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
I always use the 'archaic' multibar rests up to seven bars, with a number. I like them! Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 19:18, Robert Patterson wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, the rule about needing more than a whole rest in larger

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
On 14 Jan 2011, at 21:27, Jari Williamsson wrote: It's only the main tools and the Graphics Tool that have Selection Tool connections. Regarding the Special Tools, it would make sense for accidentals and dots and perhaps also for ties, but would it really make sense for anything else in

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Parker
On 14 Jan 2011, at 22:43, David W. Fenton wrote: Unfortunately, there's one passage that alternates bars of 4/2 and 3/1, and so that's going to have to be written-out empty measures, as any kind of multi-measure rest would be way confusing. Not sure if relevant.. If strict alternation, then

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
I can't be much help, although I've found that cut and paste can reliably transfer layout changes. What I will say though is 'Come over to the dark side of linked parts!' Any advantages to the part-extraction method are much more than made up for by the convenience of going back and forth.

[Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Hi all! I have music spacing set to 'Incorporate' changes I've manually made. It seems to ignore some of these - most annoyingly barline moves. Does anyone know exactly what is incorporated? I also find that 'update layout' seems to move some things back too. Does automatic music spacing

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Even for a very clear 1+2+2 or 2+2+1 I would still treat it as 3+2 or 2+3 respectively for a 5 count note. Steve P. On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Thu, January 13, 2011 3:27 pm, Ryan wrote: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:27, Ryan wrote: Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or 2+3 Ugh... 2) Using a Halfs and Dotted Halfs tied to each other

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 13 Jan 2011, at 5:08 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Yes. Also never use a whole rest. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:06, Ryan wrote: 'm working on a piece in 5/4. The composer wrote this as kind of a sequel to another piece he wrote in 5/4. Someone else engraved that other piece and used the whole-tied-to-quarter method. For consistency's sake, I'm wondering if I should follow the

[Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Hi, I'm trying to work out how to make the first page in my score a left page? Current kludge is to insert a blank but I'm sure it's in a menu somewhere... Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
I should have been clearer. If the entire bar is empty then a whole rest is needed. But I would never write [Quarter note followed by whole rest] or its opposite. Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:09, John Howell wrote: Yes. Also never use a whole rest. If the division is unclear I usually

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:29, Jari Williamsson wrote: On 2011-01-13 19:24, Steve Parker wrote: I have music spacing set to 'Incorporate' changes I've manually made. It seems to ignore some of these - most annoyingly barline moves. Does anyone know exactly what is incorporated? I also find

Re: [Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Ok. I'm already playing with page number offsets as well.. A shame that it can't be specified or at least follow the offset page number to determine left and right rather than the real page number. Thanks! Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:35, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/13/2011 7:26 PM, Steve

[Finale] Page Number Offset

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
Is there any way to offset the page numbers for all pages at once? Thanks for help! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Page Number Offset

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
Please mostly ignore previous question.. I just needed to offset a left and a right page. New question: Is there any way to get the displayed page numbers to be used for all text boxes that have page number inserts on them, rather than changing everywhere? Thanks! Steve P.

[Finale] Total Pages Offset

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
Is it possible to offset the Total Pages insert? Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Page Number Offset

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks David, On 12 Jan 2011, at 11:57, David H. Bailey wrote: Once you've entered a text box and placed a page number insert there, it won't change when you change the page number offset. You need to delete it and then insert it again to get the new page number with the offset value.

[Finale] Fermata (Pause)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
Hi all! How does human playback know that a fermata is a fermata? I've added some longer and shorter fermata symbols, but HP is ignoring them. The duration percentage specifications in the articulation designer only affect length but without halting the tempo. Thanks! Steve P.

Re: [Finale] Fermata (Pause)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
? Steve P. On 12 Jan 2011, at 21:59, Jari Williamsson wrote: On 2011-01-12 22:52, Steve Parker wrote: How does human playback know that a fermata is a fermata? I've added some longer and shorter fermata symbols, but HP is ignoring them. What font? As artics or expressions? Best regards

Re: [Finale] Fermata (Pause)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
This is what I'm doing as a workaround. But how does HP recognise a maestro fermata?? Steve P. On 12 Jan 2011, at 23:05, Darcy James Argue wrote: Add Maestro font fermattas and hide them. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Fermata (Pause)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
Not trying to push a point... but how does it? What info is attached to the character in Maestro that allows HP to recognise it? Steve P. On 13 Jan 2011, at 00:43, Darcy James Argue wrote: It recognizes the Fermatta character in the Maestro font. It doesn't recognize music characters in

Re: [Finale] Fermata (Pause)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Parker
., whatever character slot corresponds to the fermatta character) when font = Maestro. HP does not do that for most third-party music fonts, because it doesn't know which character is in which slot. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 12 Jan 2011, at 7:57 PM, Steve

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Parker
On 10 Jan 2011, at 07:31, Daniel Wolf wrote: For microtonal notations in which such consistant elements are not present, for example the just intonation of Ben Johnston, then you're pretty much restricted to adding individual pitch bends as expressions. Hi Daniel, I'm currently using

[Finale] bars too full

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Parker
I would also like to turn off the automatic 'fill with rests'. I'm sure that I could do this in the Finale of years ago. What am I missing? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] bars too full

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks to Eric, Scott and Matthew! I shall input with more happiness now. This is where I need to get up to speed when there are menus in menus in menus.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Parker
On 10 Jan 2011, at 12:28, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: What's happened to me (and what I mentioned in a previous post) is that I can output using custom accidentals until it gets to the next traditional value ... then it 'resets'. This explains why I thought I'd achieved it a few times but

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Parker
If there are a large number of bars in a row to be fixed you can also use the 6 x 8 time signature with 'different sig for display' so that finale doesn't add a redundant time sig announcement. Steve P. On 10 Jan 2011, at 20:49, David H. Bailey wrote: On 1/10/2011 3:15 PM, Aaron Sherber

Re: [Finale] beaming question

2011-01-10 Thread Steve Parker
No, the option is to extend the beam over a rest to the right side of the beam. Steve P. On 10 Jan 2011, at 21:29, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: I'm not near finale now, but there is a document option called beam over rests that can be turned on or off, isn't there?

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Enviado: sáb, enero 8, 2011 10:56:03 PM Asunto: Re: [Finale] default file I put my favourite default files in the Component Files folder, then they show up when I use the Setup Wizard as a style. Christopher On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 12:04 PM, Steve Parker wrote: If you make

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I've already done this. I removed US Letter completely from this file. I still have to deselect then reselect the document style and only then do I get A4 - without touching the page sizes. Any other ideas - there may be some basic, obvious thing I've never learnt. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011,

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
? Michael On 9 Jan 2011, at 11:52, Steve Parker wrote: I've already done this. I removed US Letter completely from this file. I still have to deselect then reselect the document style and only then do I get A4 - without touching the page sizes. Any other ideas - there may be some basic, obvious

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
What page size is selected _before_ you select String Quartet? Letter Once you have got the page sizes menu to read A4, can you still find US Letter in it if you click on it? Yes - and all the others deleted from my 'pagesizes.txt' Steve ___

[Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Something else I've been kludging.. I set up right and left page numbers in my score. I don't want these in the parts, but I can't see where to specify this? Thanks! Steve ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
In my previous notation program I used a lot of empty text boxes to stop things from appearing in print. I had the option of moving the graphics layer of any element (including these white boxes) up or down. Is there any equivalent in Finale? Thanks! Steve P.

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I've used them to hide bits of staves, bits of notes etc. Things that I want to half hide. For modern scores. How can I get an opaque box? Does anyone have any info on layers? Thanks! Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:24, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 8:45 AM, Steve Parker wrote: In my

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited. The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the library in your user folder, not in the main library.

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Great, I unshowed (unshew?) then unlinked then reshowed (reshew...?) ;-) Worked as explained. Thanks! Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:19, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 8:42 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I set up right and left page numbers in my score. I don't want these in the parts, but I

[Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Is it possible to send a score file to someone? I have an issue that seems like a bug and a general question. Finally enough of a break in between work to get my chops up.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

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