Re: [Finale] Fin26 Observations
On 10/11/2018 6:37 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Can you stack articulations as Ligeti does? [snip] I'm not familiar with Ligeti's stacked articulations. If you want to send me a scan of an example of his stacked articulations I'll see whether I can get Fin26 to stack them similarly. -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Fin26 Observations
On 10/11/2018 6:14 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: David Bailey said: "it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to be." Actually, it stacks the articulations based on their order in the Articulation Selection dialog box. If you want them to stack in a different order, you can change their order in the list and they will automatically stack in the new order. This may or may not be behavior that is desirable, but it can be exploited if you understand it. [snip] Thank you for pointing that out -- and I notice also that it's possible to create new articulations which can be marked as "automatically stacking" and are marked with an asterisk in the lower right corner of the articulation selection dialog. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Fin26 Observations
Can you stack articulations as Ligeti does? > On 11 Oct 2018, at 23:14, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > David Bailey said: "it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to > be." > > Actually, it stacks the articulations based on their order in the > Articulation Selection dialog box. If you want them to stack in a different > order, you can change their order in the list and they will automatically > stack in the new order. This may or may not be behavior that is desirable, > but it can be exploited if you understand it. > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:11 PM David H. Bailey > wrote: > >> Fin25 / Fin26, you say potatoes, I say potahtoes. Not much difference >> that I can see. >> >> I just tried a quick experiment to see how wonderful the new automatic >> placement feature for slurs and other articulations works, and I have to >> say that it does what it claims to, although hardly the big deal around >> which to build a whole-number upgrade. >> >> Yes that does make multiple articulations much neater by default. But >> it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to be. If we want >> them stacked differently we still have to drag them as we've had to do >> in all previous versions of Finale. >> >> Looking at the list of what's new in Fin26, there is the comment: >> "Palette. The Simple Entry Rests Palette is now one of the default >> palettes displayed when launching Finale." -- Did anybody really suffer >> from having to actually manually have the Simple Entry Rests Palette >> display whenever Simple Entry mode is used, or setting Finale to have it >> display all the time if we so wished? Hardly worth a whole-number upgrade! >> >> "...the return of the Maestro font Lead Sheet template" -- so putting >> something *back* which should never have been removed in the first place >> is something we have to pay for? Especially aggravating, given that we >> had to pay for the upgrade where they removed it in the first place! >> >> No, I see nothing making this a worthwhile upgrade for anybody who is on >> Finale12, 14, 14.5 and definitely not worth the price for someone >> working in Finale25. If a person is on a much earlier version of Finale >> then this will offer a lot of improvements, but beware, some >> long-standing bugs (read Giz's message) are still there >> >> Unless the articulations were driving you batty, in which case you may >> feel it's worth the $150 upgrade fee. I'm with Giz Bowe on this -- it's >> the last upgrade for Finale I'll be buying until they do major >> improvements to the program. I notice that they don't appear to address >> the numerous complaints about the linked score/parts and what is linked >> and what is unlinked. >> >> Gone are the days of the mind-blowing, new-feature-rich upgrades of the >> past, where we could suddenly do something that previously had been >> impossible or at least very difficult. >> >> >> >> -- >> * >> David H. Bailey >> dhbaile...@comcast.net >> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Fin26 Observations
David Bailey said: "it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to be." Actually, it stacks the articulations based on their order in the Articulation Selection dialog box. If you want them to stack in a different order, you can change their order in the list and they will automatically stack in the new order. This may or may not be behavior that is desirable, but it can be exploited if you understand it. On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:11 PM David H. Bailey wrote: > Fin25 / Fin26, you say potatoes, I say potahtoes. Not much difference > that I can see. > > I just tried a quick experiment to see how wonderful the new automatic > placement feature for slurs and other articulations works, and I have to > say that it does what it claims to, although hardly the big deal around > which to build a whole-number upgrade. > > Yes that does make multiple articulations much neater by default. But > it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to be. If we want > them stacked differently we still have to drag them as we've had to do > in all previous versions of Finale. > > Looking at the list of what's new in Fin26, there is the comment: > "Palette. The Simple Entry Rests Palette is now one of the default > palettes displayed when launching Finale." -- Did anybody really suffer > from having to actually manually have the Simple Entry Rests Palette > display whenever Simple Entry mode is used, or setting Finale to have it > display all the time if we so wished? Hardly worth a whole-number upgrade! > > "...the return of the Maestro font Lead Sheet template" -- so putting > something *back* which should never have been removed in the first place > is something we have to pay for? Especially aggravating, given that we > had to pay for the upgrade where they removed it in the first place! > > No, I see nothing making this a worthwhile upgrade for anybody who is on > Finale12, 14, 14.5 and definitely not worth the price for someone > working in Finale25. If a person is on a much earlier version of Finale > then this will offer a lot of improvements, but beware, some > long-standing bugs (read Giz's message) are still there > > Unless the articulations were driving you batty, in which case you may > feel it's worth the $150 upgrade fee. I'm with Giz Bowe on this -- it's > the last upgrade for Finale I'll be buying until they do major > improvements to the program. I notice that they don't appear to address > the numerous complaints about the linked score/parts and what is linked > and what is unlinked. > > Gone are the days of the mind-blowing, new-feature-rich upgrades of the > past, where we could suddenly do something that previously had been > impossible or at least very difficult. > > > > -- > * > David H. Bailey > dhbaile...@comcast.net > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Fin26 Observations
Fin25 / Fin26, you say potatoes, I say potahtoes. Not much difference that I can see. I just tried a quick experiment to see how wonderful the new automatic placement feature for slurs and other articulations works, and I have to say that it does what it claims to, although hardly the big deal around which to build a whole-number upgrade. Yes that does make multiple articulations much neater by default. But it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to be. If we want them stacked differently we still have to drag them as we've had to do in all previous versions of Finale. Looking at the list of what's new in Fin26, there is the comment: "Palette. The Simple Entry Rests Palette is now one of the default palettes displayed when launching Finale." -- Did anybody really suffer from having to actually manually have the Simple Entry Rests Palette display whenever Simple Entry mode is used, or setting Finale to have it display all the time if we so wished? Hardly worth a whole-number upgrade! "...the return of the Maestro font Lead Sheet template" -- so putting something *back* which should never have been removed in the first place is something we have to pay for? Especially aggravating, given that we had to pay for the upgrade where they removed it in the first place! No, I see nothing making this a worthwhile upgrade for anybody who is on Finale12, 14, 14.5 and definitely not worth the price for someone working in Finale25. If a person is on a much earlier version of Finale then this will offer a lot of improvements, but beware, some long-standing bugs (read Giz's message) are still there Unless the articulations were driving you batty, in which case you may feel it's worth the $150 upgrade fee. I'm with Giz Bowe on this -- it's the last upgrade for Finale I'll be buying until they do major improvements to the program. I notice that they don't appear to address the numerous complaints about the linked score/parts and what is linked and what is unlinked. Gone are the days of the mind-blowing, new-feature-rich upgrades of the past, where we could suddenly do something that previously had been impossible or at least very difficult. -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
