Re: [Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations

2010-10-27 Thread christopher.smith
What I would do here is to enter all the accents first using the usual A 
metatool. Then once the slurs are in, I would be in a better position to know 
which ones needed to be inside. I would assign the A metatool to the OTHER 
accent, with the inside positioning. Once any articulation is selected, a 
double tap on the metatool A will replace it with the new one. Or I could come 
up with a new metatool, depending on how organised and rigourous I was feeling.

Christopher


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From: David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations
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 On 26 Oct 2010 at 21:10, James Cooper wrote:
 
  I have to experiment more, but was having problems with collisions
  between the accents  slurs in this one section.  I 
 wonder if some of
  that was caused by the fact I put them in the 1st violins, 
 then copied
  to the rest of the strings.  I wonder if they would have 
 come out
  better if I had just entered (the slurs at least) 
 individually  (The
  passage wasn't so long that the extra time would have been all that
  bad.)
 
 Well, that's a case where you can use the REPLACE feature. I'm 
 so far 
 behind on Finale that I still have the Mass Mover tool, so I 
 can't 
 explain to you how to do it, but what you used to do was select 
 a 
 passage, then choose CHANGE = Articulation Assignments, and you 
 could then swap your original accents (without slur avoidance) 
 for 
 your new one (with it).
 
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 Fentonhttp://dfenton.com
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[Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations

2010-10-26 Thread Steven Larsen
I'm having trouble when I apply slurs to notes with articulations (staccato, 
accents, etc.). The slur attaches to the notehead, and I'd like it to float 
about (or below, as the case may be) the articulation. It's a royal pain to 
have to manually adjust every slur.

I'm using version 2011 for Windows.

Steve Larsen



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Re: [Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations

2010-10-26 Thread Chuck Israels
Not in Finale right now, so I am foggy on specifics but, in each articulation 
dialog, there is a check box for having the articulation appear inside slurs.  
Certain articulations appear inside by convention (staccatos and tenutos), 
others - like accents, do not and must be adjusted by hand (as far as I know).

Chuck


On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Steven Larsen wrote:

 I'm having trouble when I apply slurs to notes with articulations (staccato, 
 accents, etc.). The slur attaches to the notehead, and I'd like it to float 
 about (or below, as the case may be) the articulation. It's a royal pain to 
 have to manually adjust every slur.
 
 I'm using version 2011 for Windows.
 
 Steve Larsen
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations

2010-10-26 Thread James Cooper
This is something slowing me down on an orchestra score I'm working on. (I'm
in Win 2011a)

It looks like when I go the Articulation Designer window for an
articulation, there is an option in the lower left corner inside slurs.
This works fine to have it checked for for staccato dots  tenuto accents
(inside the slur per Ross).  However, for the () accents Ross says
sometimes inside the slur, and sometimes outside.  But what seems to me
happens with those accents is, if I check inside slurs, it affects all of
them in the piece, so I end up having to adjust all the slurs where I want
the accent outside (or vice versa).

Has anyone one found a better way of handing these?

 --- James


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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Not in Finale right now, so I am foggy on specifics but, in each
 articulation dialog, there is a check box for having the articulation appear
 inside slurs.  Certain articulations appear inside by convention (staccatos
 and tenutos), others - like accents, do not and must be adjusted by hand (as
 far as I know).

 Chuck


 On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Steven Larsen wrote:

  I'm having trouble when I apply slurs to notes with articulations
 (staccato, accents, etc.). The slur attaches to the notehead, and I'd like
 it to float about (or below, as the case may be) the articulation. It's a
 royal pain to have to manually adjust every slur.
 
  I'm using version 2011 for Windows.
 
  Steve Larsen
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations

2010-10-26 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Oct 2010 at 18:29, James Cooper wrote:

 Has anyone one found a better way of handing these?

You need to copy the original and create a second one with the inside-
slur setting, and then use the one or the other according to context.

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Re: [Finale] {Spam} Slurs and articulations

2010-10-26 Thread James Cooper
That helps (David) - thanks.

I have to experiment more, but was having problems with collisions between
the accents  slurs in this one section.  I wonder if some of that was
caused by the fact I put them in the 1st violins, then copied to the rest of
the strings.  I wonder if they would have come out better if I had just
entered (the slurs at least) individually  (The passage wasn't so long that
the extra time would have been all that bad.)

 --- James


James Cooper
Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
www.ModeZ.com


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:29 PM, David W. Fenton
lists.fin...@dfenton.comwrote:

 On 26 Oct 2010 at 18:29, James Cooper wrote:

  Has anyone one found a better way of handing these?

 You need to copy the original and create a second one with the inside-
 slur setting, and then use the one or the other according to context.

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