Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-13 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks for your help, Jim.  I really appreciate it!

I un - and re-installed WinFin 2014, now on the big non-ssd drive.
Same issues.  I think it is file-related.  The file is bulky - I've
copied an old file into a new one, with different instrumentation,
even after deleting unused measures it is still slow.   On my laptop,
a weaker win 8 machine, those same operations take substantially
longer.
I'll just suck it up for  a while.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Williams, Jim
jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote:
 Ray,
 My guess is that your issues have to do with the SSD rather than with finale.
 Can you move at least finale back to the root drive?
 I tried what you described  the change was instantaneous on my system with 
 no SSD.

 Jim
 www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 OK, here a a few numbers to demonstrate the crawling

 FinWin 2014.  Win 8.1
 HP with AMD FX -6200 Six-core Processor 3.8 GHz
 10 MB ram
 64 bit OS, x64-based Processor
 Finale and Garritan are on a second, solid-state (fast!) drive

 The file I am working on shows up in the Win directory as 1396 KB, but
 when I right click to show properties it is 1.36 MB on disk.  I JUST
 CHANGED THE FIRST BAR, A ONE BEaT PICKUP (SOrry my caps lock key got
 stuck on when I pulled it off in disgust - I'm a terrible typist) from
 C to 4/4 sand it took five seconds.  I saved it and it took another
 5 seconds.  I tried data check - nothing extra there.

 Thanks for any help.  I have a big deadline and a lot of work to do!




 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
 VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Williams, Jim
 jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote:
 I get the high CPU usage on both winfin 12 and 14c--on both 32-bit win 7 
 and win 64-bit 8.1.
 I had thought that finale had become aware of multiple processors as of 
 winfin 2012, but maybe not.

 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:07 AM, David H. Bailey 
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:

 On 7/11/2014 9:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
 them up if I'm the only audience.


 On the table:

 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!

 I'm on an HP Envy laptop with a quad-core processor, 12GB of ram, oodles
 of hard drive space, running Win8.1-64bit.  Finale2014(c) seems a bit
 slower than previous versions but I wouldn't describe it as crawling.

 When I just was playing through a score for string orchestra of a
 baroque piece by Albicastro, the little HP warning high cpu usage by
 Finale2014 appeared.  The sound playback I was using was the sounds
 that installed with Finale2014 and running through Asio4all.




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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-12 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/11/2014 9:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
 them up if I'm the only audience.


 On the table:

 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!


I'm on an HP Envy laptop with a quad-core processor, 12GB of ram, oodles 
of hard drive space, running Win8.1-64bit.  Finale2014(c) seems a bit 
slower than previous versions but I wouldn't describe it as crawling.

When I just was playing through a score for string orchestra of a 
baroque piece by Albicastro, the little HP warning high cpu usage by 
Finale2014 appeared.  The sound playback I was using was the sounds 
that installed with Finale2014 and running through Asio4all.




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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-12 Thread Raymond Horton
OK, here a a few numbers to demonstrate the crawling

FinWin 2014.  Win 8.1
HP with AMD FX -6200 Six-core Processor 3.8 GHz
10 MB ram
64 bit OS, x64-based Processor
Finale and Garritan are on a second, solid-state (fast!) drive

The file I am working on shows up in the Win directory as 1396 KB, but
when I right click to show properties it is 1.36 MB on disk.  I JUST
CHANGED THE FIRST BAR, A ONE BEaT PICKUP (SOrry my caps lock key got
stuck on when I pulled it off in disgust - I'm a terrible typist) from
C to 4/4 sand it took five seconds.  I saved it and it took another
5 seconds.  I tried data check - nothing extra there.

Thanks for any help.  I have a big deadline and a lot of work to do!




Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Williams, Jim
jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote:
 I get the high CPU usage on both winfin 12 and 14c--on both 32-bit win 7 and 
 win 64-bit 8.1.
 I had thought that finale had become aware of multiple processors as of 
 winfin 2012, but maybe not.

 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:07 AM, David H. Bailey 
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:

 On 7/11/2014 9:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
 them up if I'm the only audience.


 On the table:

 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!

 I'm on an HP Envy laptop with a quad-core processor, 12GB of ram, oodles
 of hard drive space, running Win8.1-64bit.  Finale2014(c) seems a bit
 slower than previous versions but I wouldn't describe it as crawling.

 When I just was playing through a score for string orchestra of a
 baroque piece by Albicastro, the little HP warning high cpu usage by
 Finale2014 appeared.  The sound playback I was using was the sounds
 that installed with Finale2014 and running through Asio4all.




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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-12 Thread Williams, Jim
Ray, 
My guess is that your issues have to do with the SSD rather than with finale.
Can you move at least finale back to the root drive?
I tried what you described  the change was instantaneous on my system with no 
SSD.

Jim
www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, here a a few numbers to demonstrate the crawling
 
 FinWin 2014.  Win 8.1
 HP with AMD FX -6200 Six-core Processor 3.8 GHz
 10 MB ram
 64 bit OS, x64-based Processor
 Finale and Garritan are on a second, solid-state (fast!) drive
 
 The file I am working on shows up in the Win directory as 1396 KB, but
 when I right click to show properties it is 1.36 MB on disk.  I JUST
 CHANGED THE FIRST BAR, A ONE BEaT PICKUP (SOrry my caps lock key got
 stuck on when I pulled it off in disgust - I'm a terrible typist) from
 C to 4/4 sand it took five seconds.  I saved it and it took another
 5 seconds.  I tried data check - nothing extra there.
 
 Thanks for any help.  I have a big deadline and a lot of work to do!
 
 
 
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
 VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Williams, Jim
 jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote:
 I get the high CPU usage on both winfin 12 and 14c--on both 32-bit win 7 and 
 win 64-bit 8.1.
 I had thought that finale had become aware of multiple processors as of 
 winfin 2012, but maybe not.
 
 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:07 AM, David H. Bailey 
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:
 
 On 7/11/2014 9:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
 them up if I'm the only audience.
 
 
 On the table:
 
 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!
 
 I'm on an HP Envy laptop with a quad-core processor, 12GB of ram, oodles
 of hard drive space, running Win8.1-64bit.  Finale2014(c) seems a bit
 slower than previous versions but I wouldn't describe it as crawling.
 
 When I just was playing through a score for string orchestra of a
 baroque piece by Albicastro, the little HP warning high cpu usage by
 Finale2014 appeared.  The sound playback I was using was the sounds
 that installed with Finale2014 and running through Asio4all.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-12 Thread Raymond Horton
Well, then I'll get back to the path issues that have kept me from hearing
Garritan.  After wiping the drives I put Fin and Garritan in the defaults,
and it worked, albeit slowly.  I must say that the Garritan sounds seem to
load faster than they used to.  But I'll see if fin can be moved to the
other drive and still work.  Should I uninstall or copy?
Thanks
On Jul 12, 2014 2:37 PM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu
wrote:

 Ray,
 My guess is that your issues have to do with the SSD rather than with
 finale.
 Can you move at least finale back to the root drive?
 I tried what you described  the change was instantaneous on my system
 with no SSD.

 Jim
 www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

  On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  OK, here a a few numbers to demonstrate the crawling
 
  FinWin 2014.  Win 8.1
  HP with AMD FX -6200 Six-core Processor 3.8 GHz
  10 MB ram
  64 bit OS, x64-based Processor
  Finale and Garritan are on a second, solid-state (fast!) drive
 
  The file I am working on shows up in the Win directory as 1396 KB, but
  when I right click to show properties it is 1.36 MB on disk.  I JUST
  CHANGED THE FIRST BAR, A ONE BEaT PICKUP (SOrry my caps lock key got
  stuck on when I pulled it off in disgust - I'm a terrible typist) from
  C to 4/4 sand it took five seconds.  I saved it and it took another
  5 seconds.  I tried data check - nothing extra there.
 
  Thanks for any help.  I have a big deadline and a lot of work to do!
 
 
 
 
  Raymond Horton
  Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
  Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
  Composer, Arranger
  VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
  On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Williams, Jim
  jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote:
  I get the high CPU usage on both winfin 12 and 14c--on both 32-bit win
 7 and win 64-bit 8.1.
  I had thought that finale had become aware of multiple processors as of
 winfin 2012, but maybe not.
 
  Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
 
  On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:07 AM, David H. Bailey 
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:
 
  On 7/11/2014 9:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
  Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
  them up if I'm the only audience.
 
 
  On the table:
 
  Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
  but this is crawling!
 
  I'm on an HP Envy laptop with a quad-core processor, 12GB of ram,
 oodles
  of hard drive space, running Win8.1-64bit.  Finale2014(c) seems a bit
  slower than previous versions but I wouldn't describe it as crawling.
 
  When I just was playing through a score for string orchestra of a
  baroque piece by Albicastro, the little HP warning high cpu usage by
  Finale2014 appeared.  The sound playback I was using was the sounds
  that installed with Finale2014 and running through Asio4all.
 
 
 
 
  --
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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-12 Thread Williams, Jim
Ray,
I'd uninstall/reinstall. Not sure if you'll need to deauthorize finale first 
since you're putting it on a different drive.
Jim
www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well, then I'll get back to the path issues that have kept me from hearing
 Garritan.  After wiping the drives I put Fin and Garritan in the defaults,
 and it worked, albeit slowly.  I must say that the Garritan sounds seem to
 load faster than they used to.  But I'll see if fin can be moved to the
 other drive and still work.  Should I uninstall or copy?
 Thanks
 On Jul 12, 2014 2:37 PM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu
 wrote:
 
 Ray,
 My guess is that your issues have to do with the SSD rather than with
 finale.
 Can you move at least finale back to the root drive?
 I tried what you described  the change was instantaneous on my system
 with no SSD.
 
 Jim
 www.soundcloud.com/jweuph
 
 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 OK, here a a few numbers to demonstrate the crawling
 
 FinWin 2014.  Win 8.1
 HP with AMD FX -6200 Six-core Processor 3.8 GHz
 10 MB ram
 64 bit OS, x64-based Processor
 Finale and Garritan are on a second, solid-state (fast!) drive
 
 The file I am working on shows up in the Win directory as 1396 KB, but
 when I right click to show properties it is 1.36 MB on disk.  I JUST
 CHANGED THE FIRST BAR, A ONE BEaT PICKUP (SOrry my caps lock key got
 stuck on when I pulled it off in disgust - I'm a terrible typist) from
 C to 4/4 sand it took five seconds.  I saved it and it took another
 5 seconds.  I tried data check - nothing extra there.
 
 Thanks for any help.  I have a big deadline and a lot of work to do!
 
 
 
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
 VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Williams, Jim
 jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote:
 I get the high CPU usage on both winfin 12 and 14c--on both 32-bit win
 7 and win 64-bit 8.1.
 I had thought that finale had become aware of multiple processors as of
 winfin 2012, but maybe not.
 
 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:07 AM, David H. Bailey 
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:
 
 On 7/11/2014 9:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
 them up if I'm the only audience.
 
 
 On the table:
 
 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!
 
 I'm on an HP Envy laptop with a quad-core processor, 12GB of ram,
 oodles
 of hard drive space, running Win8.1-64bit.  Finale2014(c) seems a bit
 slower than previous versions but I wouldn't describe it as crawling.
 
 When I just was playing through a score for string orchestra of a
 baroque piece by Albicastro, the little HP warning high cpu usage by
 Finale2014 appeared.  The sound playback I was using was the sounds
 that installed with Finale2014 and running through Asio4all.
 
 
 
 
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[Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Raymond Horton
Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
them up if I'm the only audience.


On the table:

Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
but this is crawling!


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Michael Mathew
I am always here and I here your cry for an audience. I can' t help too much 
because I have an 27 iMac with 8 GB of RAM. Mine stays pretty speedy, however.

I am not experiencing anything for discussion, though.
 
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On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:10 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 


Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
them up if I'm the only audience.


On the table:

Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
but this is crawling!


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, July 11, 2014 9:09 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!

What is slow for you?

I find it quite slow to start -- and they still haven't fixed the font bug (a
system with many fonts causes expression editing/creation to drop to 1
character every 1-3 seconds) -- but other than that it's normal. I'm still on
WinXP, 3GB processor.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks Matt. My next computer will be a Mac.
On Jul 11, 2014 9:20 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 I am always here and I here your cry for an audience. I can' t help too
 much because I have an 27 iMac with 8 GB of RAM. Mine stays pretty speedy,
 however.

 I am not experiencing anything for discussion, though.

 Michael Mathew
 mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
 http://oregonmts.com/mathew/


 On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:10 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 Anyone around?  I have some other Finale matters, but I won't bring
 them up if I'm the only audience.


 On the table:

 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!


 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Raymond Horton
Hi Dennis, everything, at least at first. I'll be back on it Sat, I hope,
and will report further.  Thanks
On Jul 11, 2014 9:31 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
wrote:

 On Fri, July 11, 2014 9:09 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
  Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
  but this is crawling!

 What is slow for you?

 I find it quite slow to start -- and they still haven't fixed the font bug
 (a
 system with many fonts causes expression editing/creation to drop to 1
 character every 1-3 seconds) -- but other than that it's normal. I'm still
 on
 WinXP, 3GB processor.

 Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Ray, 
While 2014c is slow to load--as is 2012--I am having no issues of slowness 
while working. Since I have ca. 1200 fonts on my machine, font changes are a 
bit draggy.
I'm on Windoze 8.1 with 16gb of RAM fwiw.
Jim
www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

On Jul 11, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, July 11, 2014 9:09 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!
 
 What is slow for you?
 
 I find it quite slow to start -- and they still haven't fixed the font bug
 (a
 system with many fonts causes expression editing/creation to drop to 1
 character every 1-3 seconds) -- but other than that it's normal. I'm still
 on
 WinXP, 3GB processor.
 
 Dennis
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Anybody here? Is 2014 slow?

2014-07-11 Thread Bruce Kau
Raymond,

I have WinFin 2014c.

Win 7 professional 32bit, 3GB RAM. Dual core 2GHz machine. Somewhat old 
(4-5 years?) laptop.

Not slow at all for me. It may be something else going on. Perhaps a 
virus? Also, if you have an overly aggressive anti-virus program, it can 
slow things down as well. Task Manager (if you know about it) can 
sometimes help you figure out what's eating up your machine. It could 
also be your disk. If it's getting full, that can slow things down. On 
the other hand, I don't edit really large files, either.

Hard to say without more info.

On 7/11/2014 6:09 PM, Williams, Jim wrote:
 Ray,
 While 2014c is slow to load--as is 2012--I am having no issues of slowness 
 while working. Since I have ca. 1200 fonts on my machine, font changes are a 
 bit draggy.
 I'm on Windoze 8.1 with 16gb of RAM fwiw.
 Jim
 www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Jul 11, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 On Fri, July 11, 2014 9:09 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
 Is 2014 this slow for all PC users?  I h ave a screaming fast system,
 but this is crawling!
 What is slow for you?

 I find it quite slow to start -- and they still haven't fixed the font bug
 (a
 system with many fonts causes expression editing/creation to drop to 1
 character every 1-3 seconds) -- but other than that it's normal. I'm still
 on
 WinXP, 3GB processor.

 Dennis


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