Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-09 Thread Chuck Israels
Well, you know Christopher, I love you from a distance, so I don’t see the 
warts.  Nevertheless, I see how this might be useful.  Here at home, Margot 
knows how often I am afflicted with wrongheadedness.

Chuck

> On Mar 9, 2018, at 6:40 AM, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2018, at 7:55 AM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> Christopher is always right.
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-09 Thread Christopher Smith

 On Mar 9, 2018, at 7:55 AM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
 Christopher is always right.

   Ha ha! Tell my wife that!
   I am screenshot-ing this, printing it, framing it, and putting it in my
   living room.
   :-)
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-09 Thread Chuck Israels
Christopher is always right. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:03 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
> 
> Exactly. That’s what Christopher suggested and it worked like a charm.
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 10:06 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
>> 
>> You get that by putting a right facing rectangular bracket at the beginning 
>> of the string of letters and a left one at the end. Then each letter 
>> acquires both brackets. Hope I’m remembering this right. Don’t have Finale 
>> with me. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Chuck, but Christopher already had the solution. I had tried what 
>>> you suggested, but it wasn’t “building” the enclosure without the leading 
>>> “[“ and trailing “]” (left and right bracket) characters that I was able to 
>>> insert in the letter sequence box.
>>> 
>>> Thank you both!
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
 
 Doug,
 
 I’m recording in California this week, but when I get home, I can help you 
 with this. I think all you have to do is set up the sequencing letters and 
 choose the rehearsal font. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
> 
> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I 
> still haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I 
> like better than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I 
> won’t have to “share” with someone else who may not have it/them 
> installed. (And I keep hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might 
> someday purchase them to be included with the program as they did long 
> ago with the Jazz Font.)
> 
> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his 
> fonts, in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to 
> use those in Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing 
> Rehearsal Letters with rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font 
> requires at least 3 keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the 
> enclosure with the “shadow” effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry 
> for each letter of the alphabet to then assign as needed as rehearsal 
> letters.
> 
> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save 
> it, but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the 
> entire section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using 
> Bill’s font you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters 
> after removing one and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in 
> old versions of Finale.
> 
> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Doug Walter
Exactly. That’s what Christopher suggested and it worked like a charm.

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 10:06 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> You get that by putting a right facing rectangular bracket at the beginning 
> of the string of letters and a left one at the end. Then each letter acquires 
> both brackets. Hope I’m remembering this right. Don’t have Finale with me. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Chuck, but Christopher already had the solution. I had tried what 
>> you suggested, but it wasn’t “building” the enclosure without the leading 
>> “[“ and trailing “]” (left and right bracket) characters that I was able to 
>> insert in the letter sequence box.
>> 
>> Thank you both!
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>> 
>>> I’m recording in California this week, but when I get home, I can help you 
>>> with this. I think all you have to do is set up the sequencing letters and 
>>> choose the rehearsal font. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
 
 I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
 various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I 
 still haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like 
 better than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t 
 have to “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And 
 I keep hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase 
 them to be included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz 
 Font.)
 
 Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his 
 fonts, in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to 
 use those in Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing 
 Rehearsal Letters with rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font 
 requires at least 3 keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the 
 enclosure with the “shadow” effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry 
 for each letter of the alphabet to then assign as needed as rehearsal 
 letters.
 
 Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save 
 it, but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the 
 entire section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s 
 font you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after 
 removing one and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old 
 versions of Finale.
 
 I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
 separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Doug
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck Israels
You get that by putting a right facing rectangular bracket at the beginning of 
the string of letters and a left one at the end. Then each letter acquires both 
brackets. Hope I’m remembering this right. Don’t have Finale with me. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Chuck, but Christopher already had the solution. I had tried what you 
> suggested, but it wasn’t “building” the enclosure without the leading “[“ and 
> trailing “]” (left and right bracket) characters that I was able to insert in 
> the letter sequence box.
> 
> Thank you both!
> 
> Doug
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
>> 
>> Doug,
>> 
>> I’m recording in California this week, but when I get home, I can help you 
>> with this. I think all you have to do is set up the sequencing letters and 
>> choose the rehearsal font. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
>>> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
>>> haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
>>> than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
>>> “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
>>> hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
>>> included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)
>>> 
>>> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his 
>>> fonts, in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use 
>>> those in Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal 
>>> Letters with rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at 
>>> least 3 keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the 
>>> “shadow” effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry for each letter of the 
>>> alphabet to then assign as needed as rehearsal letters.
>>> 
>>> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, 
>>> but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the 
>>> entire section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s 
>>> font you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after 
>>> removing one and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old 
>>> versions of Finale.
>>> 
>>> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
>>> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Doug Walter
Thanks, Chuck, but Christopher already had the solution. I had tried what you 
suggested, but it wasn’t “building” the enclosure without the leading “[“ and 
trailing “]” (left and right bracket) characters that I was able to insert in 
the letter sequence box.

Thank you both!

Doug

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Doug,
> 
> I’m recording in California this week, but when I get home, I can help you 
> with this. I think all you have to do is set up the sequencing letters and 
> choose the rehearsal font. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
>> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
>> haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
>> than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
>> “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
>> hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
>> included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)
>> 
>> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his fonts, 
>> in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use those 
>> in Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal Letters 
>> with rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at least 3 
>> keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the “shadow” 
>> effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry for each letter of the alphabet 
>> to then assign as needed as rehearsal letters.
>> 
>> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, 
>> but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the entire 
>> section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s font 
>> you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after removing one 
>> and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old versions of Finale.
>> 
>> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
>> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Doug,

I’m recording in California this week, but when I get home, I can help you with 
this. I think all you have to do is set up the sequencing letters and choose 
the rehearsal font. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
> 
> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
> haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
> than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
> “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
> hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
> included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)
> 
> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his fonts, 
> in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use those in 
> Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal Letters with 
> rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at least 3 
> keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the “shadow” 
> effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry for each letter of the alphabet 
> to then assign as needed as rehearsal letters.
> 
> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, 
> but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the entire 
> section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s font 
> you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after removing one 
> and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old versions of Finale.
> 
> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Christopher Smith


> On Thu Mar 8, at ThursdayMar 8 10:20 PM, Doug Walter  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christopher,
> 
> You’re a genius!

Yes.

Yes, I am.

Thank you for noticing. (blush)

Actually, I think I’m more along the lines of Bill Murray’s character in 
“Groundhog Day”, where he knows all these things just because he has been 
through it all before, many, many times.

C


> It never occurred to me that you could add leading or trailing characters in 
> that box, but, sure enough, it works. I had thought that to accomplish this 
> you’d need to be able to do something along those lines (as with measure 
> numbers) but didn’t realize it was possible with the auto-sequencing 
> letters/numbers. Thank you!
> 
> Doug
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Doug,
>> 
>> I don’t use the Duncan Rehearsal font for letters, but if you only need two 
>> characters for the enclosure, there is a way (and possibly a way even if you 
>> need more!)
>> 
>> Take one of the pre-made repeating rehearsal marks, make the font Rehearsal. 
>> Then OUTSIDE the gray box, add the leading enclosure character BEFORE the 
>> gray box, then the trailing enclosure character AFTER the gray box. It will 
>> not sequence like the letters inside the box, so they will stay the same.
>> 
>> Try this out. If you need more specific instructions, write back.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu Mar 8, at ThursdayMar 8 9:28 PM, Doug Walter  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
>>> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
>>> haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
>>> than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
>>> “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
>>> hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
>>> included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)
>>> 
>>> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his 
>>> fonts, in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use 
>>> those in Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal 
>>> Letters with rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at 
>>> least 3 keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the 
>>> “shadow” effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry for each letter of the 
>>> alphabet to then assign as needed as rehearsal letters.
>>> 
>>> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, 
>>> but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the 
>>> entire section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s 
>>> font you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after 
>>> removing one and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old 
>>> versions of Finale.
>>> 
>>> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
>>> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Doug Walter
Hi Christopher,

You’re a genius! It never occurred to me that you could add leading or trailing 
characters in that box, but, sure enough, it works. I had thought that to 
accomplish this you’d need to be able to do something along those lines (as 
with measure numbers) but didn’t realize it was possible with the 
auto-sequencing letters/numbers. Thank you!

Doug

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> I don’t use the Duncan Rehearsal font for letters, but if you only need two 
> characters for the enclosure, there is a way (and possibly a way even if you 
> need more!)
> 
> Take one of the pre-made repeating rehearsal marks, make the font Rehearsal. 
> Then OUTSIDE the gray box, add the leading enclosure character BEFORE the 
> gray box, then the trailing enclosure character AFTER the gray box. It will 
> not sequence like the letters inside the box, so they will stay the same.
> 
> Try this out. If you need more specific instructions, write back.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Thu Mar 8, at ThursdayMar 8 9:28 PM, Doug Walter  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
>> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
>> haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
>> than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
>> “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
>> hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
>> included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)
>> 
>> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his fonts, 
>> in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use those 
>> in Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal Letters 
>> with rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at least 3 
>> keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the “shadow” 
>> effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry for each letter of the alphabet 
>> to then assign as needed as rehearsal letters.
>> 
>> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, 
>> but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the entire 
>> section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s font 
>> you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after removing one 
>> and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old versions of Finale.
>> 
>> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
>> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi Doug,

I don’t use the Duncan Rehearsal font for letters, but if you only need two 
characters for the enclosure, there is a way (and possibly a way even if you 
need more!)

Take one of the pre-made repeating rehearsal marks, make the font Rehearsal. 
Then OUTSIDE the gray box, add the leading enclosure character BEFORE the gray 
box, then the trailing enclosure character AFTER the gray box. It will not 
sequence like the letters inside the box, so they will stay the same.

Try this out. If you need more specific instructions, write back.

Christopher


> On Thu Mar 8, at ThursdayMar 8 9:28 PM, Doug Walter  wrote:
> 
> I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
> various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
> haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
> than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
> “share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
> hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
> included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)
> 
> Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his fonts, 
> in this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use those in 
> Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal Letters with 
> rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at least 3 
> keystrokes (for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the “shadow” 
> effect, I’ve had to create a separate entry for each letter of the alphabet 
> to then assign as needed as rehearsal letters.
> 
> Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, 
> but you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the entire 
> section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s font 
> you’d need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after removing one 
> and then reassign them, as we used to have to do in old versions of Finale.
> 
> I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
> separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
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[Finale] Bill Duncan Rehearsal fonts

2018-03-08 Thread Doug Walter
I know there’s still a handful of folks here using Bill Duncan’s fonts in 
various combinations, perhaps most notably the chord symbol one(s). I still 
haven’t found or managed to create any chord symbol font that I like better 
than his and continue to use it in Finale files that I know I won’t have to 
“share” with someone else who may not have it/them installed. (And I keep 
hoping, probably in vain, that MakeMusic might someday purchase them to be 
included with the program as they did long ago with the Jazz Font.)

Lately I’ve been trying to branch out a bit and use a few more of his fonts, in 
this case the one called Rehearsal. Has anyone found a way to use those in 
Finale’s convenient Rehearsal Marks: Auto-Sequencing Rehearsal Letters with 
rectangular enclosures setup? Since Bill’s font requires at least 3 keystrokes 
(for a single letter) to create the enclosure with the “shadow” effect, I’ve 
had to create a separate entry for each letter of the alphabet to then assign 
as needed as rehearsal letters.

Not a huge deal, and of course you can create the library once and save it, but 
you end up losing the auto-sequencing feature which reletters the entire 
section following a letter or letters that you delete. Using Bill’s font you’d 
need to delete all the subsequent rehearsal letters after removing one and then 
reassign them, as we used to have to do in old versions of Finale.

I’ve got one or two more Bill Duncan-related questions but will start a 
separate thread as necessary to avoid confusion.

Thanks for any help,

Doug



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