[Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback!
I just lost 20 minutes on a foolish problem. I am writing accompaniments to choral arrangements this week, and I tried to play back a file as a test for when the choir director is coming over. I don't use play back very often, but this was a special case. Everything was fine (or as fine as can be expected) until the last seven measures of one work, when it inexplicably started playing back in swing! I checked the Human Playback controls in the Playback window, I even ran the Human Playback plugin to see if I could remove something, I checked the MIDI tool, as this used to be the way to accomplish swing playback, I set Rhythm to every percentage of the original I could imagine, still nothing. Then I saw the Slower staff marking over the seventh last measure. Could I have edited another marking to create that one? I checked the playback on the expression, and sure enough, it was set to play back as Swing. I set it to None, and all was well. ARRGHHH! It just goes to show, practise safe staff expressions, everyone, or some unknown bug may infect you with strange symptoms... Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback!
I recall one release in which some expressions came from the factory incorrectly defined for playback. That produced a large volume of email when the release came out!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Christopher Smith Sent: Fri 04-Mar-05 10:43 To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Subject: [Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback! I just lost 20 minutes on a foolish problem. I am writing accompaniments to choral arrangements this week, and I tried to play back a file as a test for when the choir director is coming over. I don't use play back very often, but this was a special case. Everything was fine (or as fine as can be expected) until the last seven measures of one work, when it inexplicably started playing back in swing! I checked the Human Playback controls in the Playback window, I even ran the Human Playback plugin to see if I could remove something, I checked the MIDI tool, as this used to be the way to accomplish swing playback, I set Rhythm to every percentage of the original I could imagine, still nothing. Then I saw the Slower staff marking over the seventh last measure. Could I have edited another marking to create that one? I checked the playback on the expression, and sure enough, it was set to play back as Swing. I set it to None, and all was well. ARRGHHH! It just goes to show, practise safe staff expressions, everyone, or some unknown bug may infect you with strange symptoms... Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale winmail.dat___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback!
Christopher Smith writes: I just lost 20 minutes on a foolish problem. I am writing accompaniments to choral arrangements this week, and I tried to play back a file as a test for when the choir director is coming over. I don't use play back very often, but this was a special case. Everything was fine (or as fine as can be expected) until the last seven measures of one work, when it inexplicably started playing back in swing! I checked the Human Playback controls in the Playback window, I even ran the Human Playback plugin to see if I could remove something, I checked the MIDI tool, as this used to be the way to accomplish swing playback, I set Rhythm to every percentage of the original I could imagine, still nothing. Then I saw the Slower staff marking over the seventh last measure. Could I have edited another marking to create that one? I checked the playback on the expression, and sure enough, it was set to play back as Swing. I set it to None, and all was well. ARRGHHH! It just goes to show, practise safe staff expressions, everyone, or some unknown bug may infect you with strange symptoms... Dear Christopher, I've noticed that when I use the Apply Human Playback plugin there is always an expression added at the beginning that is set to Swing for playback but the setting is zero (unless you had chosen Jazz as the playback option). The handle shows up, on the screen. I often use it for other MIDI settings (such as CC-1 when I'm using GPO). Maybe that expression shows up in your file where the swing begins, but this time with a setting other than zero. Go figure! Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback!
On Mar 4, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Harold Owen wrote: Christopher Smith writes: I just lost 20 minutes on a foolish problem. I am writing accompaniments to choral arrangements this week, and I tried to play back a file as a test for when the choir director is coming over. I don't use play back very often, but this was a special case. Everything was fine (or as fine as can be expected) until the last seven measures of one work, when it inexplicably started playing back in swing! I checked the Human Playback controls in the Playback window, I even ran the Human Playback plugin to see if I could remove something, I checked the MIDI tool, as this used to be the way to accomplish swing playback, I set Rhythm to every percentage of the original I could imagine, still nothing. Then I saw the Slower staff marking over the seventh last measure. Could I have edited another marking to create that one? I checked the playback on the expression, and sure enough, it was set to play back as Swing. I set it to None, and all was well. ARRGHHH! It just goes to show, practise safe staff expressions, everyone, or some unknown bug may infect you with strange symptoms... Dear Christopher, I've noticed that when I use the Apply Human Playback plugin there is always an expression added at the beginning that is set to Swing for playback but the setting is zero (unless you had chosen Jazz as the playback option). The handle shows up, on the screen. I often use it for other MIDI settings (such as CC-1 when I'm using GPO). Maybe that expression shows up in your file where the swing begins, but this time with a setting other than zero. Go figure! Yes, I saw it there after I tried the Human Playback plugin, but removed it when I noticed it had no effect. Now that I know what caused the problem, it WOULD have had effect if it had come AFTER the Slower expression (which was on the 3rd beat of that measure.) The swing setting of the Slower expression was cancelling out the no swing, but two beats later. Ah, it's all so clear when you know. It's when you DON'T know that it kills... Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
