Re: [Finale] Klezmer music question
On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Ruth H. Randle wrote: I have been given a handwritten piece of Klezmer music to transcribe, called Baym Rebn Sude. There are no chords, just a simple melody line. My problem is this: It has 1 sharp (F) and 2 flats (B and E)! I was told that a) it is a very simple piece, and b) the basic scale is D, Eb, F#, G, A, Bb, C and D. (However, there are some B naturals indicated). He said it was sort of in the key of D, maybe? Is there any way to set this up in Finale so the key signature is correct? I know nothing about Klezmer music, and I've never seen a key sig with sharps and flats together. I am using Finale 2005 for Windows. Any help will be greatly appreciated. A basic template would be even better, if someone knows how to do it. Hi Ruth. Christopher has the right answer. Use the Bb key signature with the F# where needed. One of the Klezmer books that I have is The Compleat Klezmer by Henry Sapoznik. He often uses that same notation. His version of Baym Rebin's Sude, however, is up a step in E Ahava Raba mode. There are 25 or so pages at the beginning of the book that supply some context and include a few pages that talk about the common modes and structure. It's a bit pricey, though at $20. Ahava Raba mode on D is kinda like D if adding a flat 2,6, and 7 retains any of the original major scale ;-) Common chords would be D, Gm and Cm. Good Luck Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Klezmer music question
AFAIK this was *very* occasionally used to indicate a minor key. In this case G minor- completely reinforced by the scale of G minor as quoted in the message. I'm not really familiar with my minor modal variants but I suspect a 'hyper' scale form thus D to D but in G minor. The key sig works by quoting all normally used accidentals- In this case, G minor= Bb Eb F# A minor would have key sig G# (only!) D minor would have Bb and C#, and C minor would have Eb,Ab only (no Bb)! Weird- but I recall reading of a strong European movement to adopt such a system mid 20th Century! Just a thought! Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Ph: (02) 62910787. Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruth H. Randle Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 12:14 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Klezmer music question I have been given a handwritten piece of Klezmer music to transcribe, called Baym Rebn Sude. There are no chords, just a simple melody line. My problem is this: It has 1 sharp (F) and 2 flats (B and E)! I was told that a) it is a very simple piece, and b) the basic scale is D, Eb, F#, G, A, Bb, C and D. (However, there are some B naturals indicated). He said it was sort of in the key of D, maybe? Is there any way to set this up in Finale so the key signature is correct? I know nothing about Klezmer music, and I've never seen a key sig with sharps and flats together. I am using Finale 2005 for Windows. Any help will be greatly appreciated. A basic template would be even better, if someone knows how to do it. Thanks, Ruth Randle ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
