Re: [Finale] Measure width before or after multimeasure rest

[Doug Walter]

Thank you, Chuck (and Jan)! I’ve got all the JW plug-ins and should have looked 
beyond the ones I use all the time.

Doug

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 10:35 AM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> Jari Williamson - Space Empty Rests plugin. This solves most similar 
> problems, but I still find the occasional need to use measure handles to 
> reduce the size of one measure at the end of a line that contains something 
> like a 7 measure rest preceding it. You must update the layout after 
> adjusting the measure width. There are other ways to accomplish measure 
> proportions — adding or subtracting width using the Measure Attributes tool 
> is sometimes effective. Again, Update Layout must be invoked after any 
> adjustments.
> 
> In classical music mm rests are not proportional to their length, but I am 
> used to some visual signal that gives an idea of relative length, and I find 
> Jari’s plugin indispensable. It makes things look the way I like to see them.
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Doug Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone found any sort of global solution to the annoying habit of Finale 
>> to make a single measure on a line that also includes a multimeasure rest 
>> WAY too wide?
>> 
>> Simplest example: first bar on the line (4/4) has, say, a quarter note on 
>> the downbeat followed by rests, then the next bar is a multimeasure rest of, 
>> say, 3 bars, although the number doesn’t seem to matter. Could be 2 or 20. 
>> Finale makes the bar with the note in it take up fully HALF the width of the 
>> line. I can grab the handle in the measure tool and drag the right barline 
>> to the left, but when I respace music (even with Incorporate Manual 
>> Positioning selected), it reverts to being too wide, although not *quite* as 
>> wide as it was.
>> 
>> And of course if I specify a fixed measure width for that bar, it affects 
>> every part and the score, which isn’t what I want.
>> 
>> I spoke with tech support years ago about this and they had no solution, but 
>> I’m hoping there’s a trick or workaround - or plug-in - that might address 
>> this now.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Doug
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Re: [Finale] Measure width before or after multimeasure rest

[Jan Angermüller]

You could use the JW Space Empty Rests plugin. It can respace MMRests 
according to their duration.

Jan
httsp://elbsound.studio

Am 23.03.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Doug Walter:
> Has anyone found any sort of global solution to the annoying habit of Finale 
> to make a single measure on a line that also includes a multimeasure rest WAY 
> too wide?
>
> Simplest example: first bar on the line (4/4) has, say, a quarter note on the 
> downbeat followed by rests, then the next bar is a multimeasure rest of, say, 
> 3 bars, although the number doesn’t seem to matter. Could be 2 or 20. Finale 
> makes the bar with the note in it take up fully HALF the width of the line. I 
> can grab the handle in the measure tool and drag the right barline to the 
> left, but when I respace music (even with Incorporate Manual Positioning 
> selected), it reverts to being too wide, although not *quite* as wide as it 
> was.
>
> And of course if I specify a fixed measure width for that bar, it affects 
> every part and the score, which isn’t what I want.
>
> I spoke with tech support years ago about this and they had no solution, but 
> I’m hoping there’s a trick or workaround - or plug-in - that might address 
> this now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
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Re: [Finale] Measure width before or after multimeasure rest

[Chuck Israels]

Hi Doug,

Jari Williamson - Space Empty Rests plugin. This solves most similar problems, 
but I still find the occasional need to use measure handles to reduce the size 
of one measure at the end of a line that contains something like a 7 measure 
rest preceding it. You must update the layout after adjusting the measure 
width. There are other ways to accomplish measure proportions — adding or 
subtracting width using the Measure Attributes tool is sometimes effective. 
Again, Update Layout must be invoked after any adjustments.

In classical music mm rests are not proportional to their length, but I am used 
to some visual signal that gives an idea of relative length, and I find Jari’s 
plugin indispensable. It makes things look the way I like to see them.

Chuck

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Doug Walter  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone found any sort of global solution to the annoying habit of Finale 
> to make a single measure on a line that also includes a multimeasure rest WAY 
> too wide?
> 
> Simplest example: first bar on the line (4/4) has, say, a quarter note on the 
> downbeat followed by rests, then the next bar is a multimeasure rest of, say, 
> 3 bars, although the number doesn’t seem to matter. Could be 2 or 20. Finale 
> makes the bar with the note in it take up fully HALF the width of the line. I 
> can grab the handle in the measure tool and drag the right barline to the 
> left, but when I respace music (even with Incorporate Manual Positioning 
> selected), it reverts to being too wide, although not *quite* as wide as it 
> was.
> 
> And of course if I specify a fixed measure width for that bar, it affects 
> every part and the score, which isn’t what I want.
> 
> I spoke with tech support years ago about this and they had no solution, but 
> I’m hoping there’s a trick or workaround - or plug-in - that might address 
> this now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug
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[Finale] Measure width before or after multimeasure rest

[Doug Walter]

Has anyone found any sort of global solution to the annoying habit of Finale to 
make a single measure on a line that also includes a multimeasure rest WAY too 
wide?

Simplest example: first bar on the line (4/4) has, say, a quarter note on the 
downbeat followed by rests, then the next bar is a multimeasure rest of, say, 3 
bars, although the number doesn’t seem to matter. Could be 2 or 20. Finale 
makes the bar with the note in it take up fully HALF the width of the line. I 
can grab the handle in the measure tool and drag the right barline to the left, 
but when I respace music (even with Incorporate Manual Positioning selected), 
it reverts to being too wide, although not *quite* as wide as it was.

And of course if I specify a fixed measure width for that bar, it affects every 
part and the score, which isn’t what I want.

I spoke with tech support years ago about this and they had no solution, but 
I’m hoping there’s a trick or workaround - or plug-in - that might address this 
now.

Thanks,

Doug
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