Re: [Finale] Playback Problems (Latency) With Anything After Finale 2008v1

2010-12-26 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, December 26, 2010 1:41 am, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
 On 2010/12/08, at 16:07, Michael Dutka wrote:
 Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an
 Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram.

 Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered
 latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program,
 playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and
 greater the delay.

 I wasn't sure what you mean by Latency?  Latency is a terminology described
 the time gap between the source and the target, i.e., the time gap between
 midi trigger and the sound.  When you say latency against playback then you
 must know when Finale triggered the midi data.  I don't think this is the
 case.  So, what is your nature of the problem?

 You say it gets worse in time.  That is a drift, but then what time code are
 you referring to?

 Also, what sound generator are you using?  Garritan?  I don't know what Win
 version offers but have you tried switching?

Good questions. My machine is an Intel Core Duo @ 3GHz with 2GB of RAM,
Windows XP SP3, and with Finale 2010 this problem comes up for me as well.
Since I usually run a number of other programs at the same time (at least a
browser, text editor, and graphics program), Finale's playback suffers.
Sometimes the sound is delayed in playback, sometimes it's delayed in Speedy
entry (1-2 seconds between keypress and sound), and sometimes it just thins
out and the instruments disappear one by one until they don't play at all.
(This is mostly with Garritan running.) Shortly the selection tool will stop
selecting, and I know Finale will soon crash. At least it's predictable.

Finale 2010 also chases inaccurately if there are slides of any kind between
the beginning and the play point, resulting in a nicely key-chaotic playback.
According to Finale support, this is a known bug.

I have 2011 sitting here but haven't installed it. (Again, according to Finale
support the major font bug is still there, but I got 2011 in case a bugfix
release takes care of it. I hate waiting 15 seconds for the expression dialog
to appear and waiting 5 seconds between keystrokes.)

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Playback Problems (Latency) With Anything After Finale 2008v1

2010-12-25 Thread A-NO-NE Music

I am slowly catching up with posts.  It seems no one responded to this one?

On 2010/12/08, at 16:07, Michael Dutka wrote:
 Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an
 Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram.
 
 Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered
 latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program,
 playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and
 greater the delay.

I wasn't sure what you mean by Latency?  Latency is a terminology described the 
time gap between the source and the target, i.e., the time gap between midi 
trigger and the sound.  When you say latency against playback then you must 
know when Finale triggered the midi data.  I don't think this is the case.  So, 
what is your nature of the problem?

You say it gets worse in time.  That is a drift, but then what time code are 
you referring to?

Also, what sound generator are you using?  Garritan?  I don't know what Win 
version offers but have you tried switching?


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http://a-no-ne.com   http://anonemusic.com

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[Finale] Playback Problems (Latency) With Anything After Finale 2008v1

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Dutka
Hi - first time on this list - hoping someone might be able to give me some
advice about a big problem.

Was running Finale 2008 (original version) on an HP dv6 Notebook PC with an
Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60 Ghz and 4G of ram.

Worked pretty well until I updated to Finale 10, instantly encountered
latency problems in playback. Immediately after booting the program,
playback sounded okay, but the more time that passed, the greater and
greater the delay.

Heard the internal sound card in lots of laptops couldn't buffer lots of
data, so I bought the best sound card I could find, an Alesis io2. Ran into
the same problem with 2010, and even when I updated to the latest version of
2008 - latency, that got worse and worse with time.

The Finale folks recommended ASIO4All with 2010 - I downloaded it and set it
as the audio driver, but I encountered the same latency, at any setting of
the ASIO buffer size.

The only way I was able to fix the problem was to uninstall Finale 2008 and
reinstall the original version, which worked perfectly, just like before.
But over and above the bugs in that version, it's only supported on Windows
XP, which will soon be outdated and unavailable as well.

I asked the nice folks at the helpdesk for_any configuration that would work
- any sound card, any Finale or PC settings, but they said I was having
hardware problems, which were out of their sphere of support.

If anybody has any suggestions that might let me run Finale 2010 with no
latency in playback (over and above selling my HP on Ebay and switching to
Mac), I'd be extremely grateful.

Thanks and best,
  Michael Dutka
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