[Finale] Re: Justifying Text in Expression Designer
Thanks Noel, I'm not sure that's it...Finale obviously has given us the ability to create multi-line text expressions within the expression designer. The Text menu for the Expression Designer has some, but not all, of the capabilities of the Text Tool and Justification is one of them. I'm just trying to figure out what toggles that feature from greyed to activated. I'm on a Mac, btw... --- Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Deemer wrote: Hello all, I'm finishing up orchestrating a ballet (aka my dissertation) and I'm running into an odd problem. When I'm working in the Text Expression Designer and have an expression that has more than one line, the Justification tools are greyed out. Any ideas on why this is and how I can get it working again? Thanks! My best answer: the designers of Finale consider that an expression is going to be so short that it can fit into a single line, and that therefore, justification is unnecessary, and didn't provide for justification in expressions. Best workaround: hide the expressions, and create a duplicate expression as a measure attached text-block if you need the justification. I haven't had the need to use this feature yet, so I've not tried this second choice: use hard [non-breaking] spaces to put the justification in manually. In windows, the nonbreaking space is created by pressing down the Alt- key, while entering the digits 0173 on the numeric keypad. ns -Rob Rob Deemer Doctoral Candidate in Music Composition, Assistant Director, UT New Music Ensemble The University of Texas at Austin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Justifying Text in Expression Designer
Rob, Justification is not one of the features that staff expressions have, at least, not in the present version of Finale. Yes, I bemoaned that fact, too, and sent off a request to Finale to include justification next time, as that is the last thing you can do in Text expressions that you can't do in Staff Expressions. The two tools use the same engine, apparently, that's why the feature is there in the box, but grey. Christopher On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:10 AM, Rob Deemer wrote: Thanks Noel, I'm not sure that's it...Finale obviously has given us the ability to create multi-line text expressions within the expression designer. The Text menu for the Expression Designer has some, but not all, of the capabilities of the Text Tool and Justification is one of them. I'm just trying to figure out what toggles that feature from greyed to activated. I'm on a Mac, btw... --- Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Deemer wrote: Hello all, I'm finishing up orchestrating a ballet (aka my dissertation) and I'm running into an odd problem. When I'm working in the Text Expression Designer and have an expression that has more than one line, the Justification tools are greyed out. Any ideas on why this is and how I can get it working again? Thanks! My best answer: the designers of Finale consider that an expression is going to be so short that it can fit into a single line, and that therefore, justification is unnecessary, and didn't provide for justification in expressions. Best workaround: hide the expressions, and create a duplicate expression as a measure attached text-block if you need the justification. I haven't had the need to use this feature yet, so I've not tried this second choice: use hard [non-breaking] spaces to put the justification in manually. In windows, the nonbreaking space is created by pressing down the Alt- key, while entering the digits 0173 on the numeric keypad. ns -Rob Rob Deemer Doctoral Candidate in Music Composition, Assistant Director, UT New Music Ensemble The University of Texas at Austin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Justifying Text in Expression Designer
Dear Rob, I don't think justification is allowed in text expressions. However, you might be able to use a measure-attached text block instead. In Scroll View double-click and drag a box large enough for the expression. Text will wrap. The bounding box can be adjusted either horizontally or vertically to fit your block of text. Then you can apply justification. Hal Thanks Noel, I'm not sure that's it...Finale obviously has given us the ability to create multi-line text expressions within the expression designer. The Text menu for the Expression Designer has some, but not all, of the capabilities of the Text Tool and Justification is one of them. I'm just trying to figure out what toggles that feature from greyed to activated. I'm on a Mac, btw... --- Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Deemer wrote: Hello all, I'm finishing up orchestrating a ballet (aka my dissertation) and I'm running into an odd problem. When I'm working in the Text Expression Designer and have an expression that has more than one line, the Justification tools are greyed out. Any ideas on why this is and how I can get it working again? Thanks! My best answer: the designers of Finale consider that an expression is going to be so short that it can fit into a single line, and that therefore, justification is unnecessary, and didn't provide for justification in expressions. Best workaround: hide the expressions, and create a duplicate expression as a measure attached text-block if you need the justification. I haven't had the need to use this feature yet, so I've not tried this second choice: use hard [non-breaking] spaces to put the justification in manually. In windows, the nonbreaking space is created by pressing down the Alt- key, while entering the digits 0173 on the numeric keypad. ns -Rob Rob Deemer Doctoral Candidate in Music Composition, Assistant Director, UT New Music Ensemble The University of Texas at Austin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Justifying Text in Expression Designer
In the Windows version, those options aren't even present at all in the expression designer. They may just be relicts of the section of code that the text expression editor shares with the text-tool editor, but not be applicable. I don't see how they could be if the data files are identical (or at least shareable) between the two platforms. On the other hand they may work -- try highlighting all of the expression text and see if they become useable. David H. Bailey Rob Deemer wrote: Thanks Noel, I'm not sure that's it...Finale obviously has given us the ability to create multi-line text expressions within the expression designer. The Text menu for the Expression Designer has some, but not all, of the capabilities of the Text Tool and Justification is one of them. I'm just trying to figure out what toggles that feature from greyed to activated. I'm on a Mac, btw... --- Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Deemer wrote: Hello all, I'm finishing up orchestrating a ballet (aka my dissertation) and I'm running into an odd problem. When I'm working in the Text Expression Designer and have an expression that has more than one line, the Justification tools are greyed out. Any ideas on why this is and how I can get it working again? Thanks! My best answer: the designers of Finale consider that an expression is going to be so short that it can fit into a single line, and that therefore, justification is unnecessary, and didn't provide for justification in expressions. Best workaround: hide the expressions, and create a duplicate expression as a measure attached text-block if you need the justification. I haven't had the need to use this feature yet, so I've not tried this second choice: use hard [non-breaking] spaces to put the justification in manually. In windows, the nonbreaking space is created by pressing down the Alt- key, while entering the digits 0173 on the numeric keypad. ns -Rob Rob Deemer Doctoral Candidate in Music Composition, Assistant Director, UT New Music Ensemble The University of Texas at Austin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Justifying Text in Expression Designer
Harold Owen wrote: Dear Rob, I don't think justification is allowed in text expressions. However, you might be able to use a measure-attached text block instead. In Scroll View double-click and drag a box large enough for the expression. Text will wrap. The bounding box can be adjusted either horizontally or vertically to fit your block of text. Then you can apply justification. Hal The only problem with this is that it necessitates the creation of a new text block each time the same text is to be used, whereas with the expression tool, creating it once allows one to reuse it many times. On the Windows platform, expression blocks can be centered (or right justified) easily enough simply by inserting spaces where needed. They don't even have to be hard spaces -- just hitting the space bar works fine. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
