Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
On 8/3/2014 9:25 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. Back in the days when that action was called Optimize I remember having to remove all optimization and then re-apply it when the layout had changed. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
I'll be more specific. I have a choral piece with a piano intro of 7 measures and I wish to hide the vocal staves for that system. Then the ladies sing alone for awhile, so I want to hide the men's stave on that system. I have highlighted that system and invoked Hide Empty Staves. All that happens is that the handles on the page blink off-on. Previously I had this page at 90% and everythign worked fine. At 85% it does not work. Strange also is that one empty stave is displaying in that piano intro system when there are two empty staves in play. In other words, it's hiding one of them, not the other. I tried converting to Show Empty Staves then starting over but it didn't work. One went away, one stayed. I did clear the empty measures...several times :) As for the handles, I see only one per stave (staff tool selected). On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:51 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Hi Richard sorry I should have been more specific. Usually when you have a bunch of staves showing you can select the staff tool, then select all (cmd-A) and right click on ANY of the handles and choose Hide empty staves and it will hide the staves. Yesterday I came across a file where selecting the contextual menu using the handle on the TOP stave in the group would work but none of the others would, trying to issue the Hide empty staves command from any other handle would fail. Or maybe there are certain conditions related to this that I'm not familiar with?! Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 17:41, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be more specific. I have a choral piece with a piano intro of 7 measures and I wish to hide the vocal staves for that system. Then the ladies sing alone for awhile, so I want to hide the men's stave on that system. I have highlighted that system and invoked Hide Empty Staves. All that happens is that the handles on the page blink off-on. Previously I had this page at 90% and everythign worked fine. At 85% it does not work. Strange also is that one empty stave is displaying in that piano intro system when there are two empty staves in play. In other words, it's hiding one of them, not the other. I tried converting to Show Empty Staves then starting over but it didn't work. One went away, one stayed. I did clear the empty measures...several times :) As for the handles, I see only one per stave (staff tool selected). On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:51 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 17:51, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard sorry I should have been more specific. Usually when you have a bunch of staves showing you can select the staff tool, then select all (cmd-A) and right click on ANY of the handles and choose Hide empty staves and it will hide the staves. Yesterday I came across a file where selecting the contextual menu using the handle on the TOP stave in the group would work but none of the others would, trying to issue the Hide empty staves command from any other handle would fail. Or maybe there are certain conditions related to this that I'm not familiar with?! Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 17:41, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be more specific. I have a choral piece with a piano intro of 7 measures and I wish to hide the vocal staves for that system. Then the ladies sing alone for awhile, so I want to hide the men's stave on that system. I have highlighted that system and invoked Hide Empty Staves. All that happens is that the handles on the page blink off-on. Previously I had this page at 90% and everythign worked fine. At 85% it does not work. Strange also is that one empty stave is displaying in that piano intro system when there are two empty staves in play. In other words, it's hiding one of them, not the other. I tried converting to Show Empty Staves then starting over but it didn't work. One went away, one stayed. I did clear the empty measures...several times :) As for the handles, I see only one per stave (staff tool selected). On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:51 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to:
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
On 8/4/2014 12:53 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... There have been bugs in Finale over the 20+years I've been using it which only appeared at specific percentages. But it's easy enough to test -- he can go back to 90% and see if the problem is still there. Or he could try 86% or 84% and see if the problem is still there. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Clearly, unless it's even more insidious than that, 85%, tenor clef, sharp key sigs... -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 18:33, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: On 8/4/2014 12:53 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... There have been bugs in Finale over the 20+years I've been using it which only appeared at specific percentages. But it's easy enough to test -- he can go back to 90% and see if the problem is still there. Or he could try 86% or 84% and see if the problem is still there. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Well, I'll be d# The suggestion to change the document back to the last-known working percentage (90%) did not work. (But thanks for the reminder to consider that.) So, on a total I wonder... basis,I renamed the file, I exported it to xml, Imported it back to .mus, tried the hiding manuever at 90% and it worked, then tried it at 85% and it still worked! Apparently the export-import trick flushed out the bugs causing my problem. Sigh On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:34 PM, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: On 8/4/2014 12:53 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... There have been bugs in Finale over the 20+years I've been using it which only appeared at specific percentages. But it's easy enough to test -- he can go back to 90% and see if the problem is still there. Or he could try 86% or 84% and see if the problem is still there. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Try bringing up the group attributes and make sure that When hiding empty staves is set to Hide normally. I had this same problem, and somehow Never hide was the selection. Sorry to come to this so late, I hope this helps. Giz Richmond VA |-Original Message- |From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of |Richard Huggins |Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 3:38 PM |To: finale@shsu.edu |Subject: Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves | |Well, I'll be d# | |The suggestion to change the document back to the last-known working |percentage (90%) did not work. (But thanks for the reminder to consider that.) | |So, on a total I wonder... basis,I renamed the file, I exported it to xml, |Imported it back to .mus, tried the hiding manuever at 90% and it worked, then |tried it at 85% and it still worked! | |Apparently the export-import trick flushed out the bugs causing my problem. |Sigh | | |On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:34 PM, David H. Bailey |dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: | | | |On 8/4/2014 12:53 PM, Simon Troup wrote: | Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a | staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number | responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could | just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... | | |There have been bugs in Finale over the 20+years I've been using it which only |appeared at specific percentages. | |But it's easy enough to test -- he can go back to 90% and see if the problem is still |there. Or he could try 86% or 84% and see if the problem is still there. | | |-- |David H. Bailey |dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com |http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com |___ |Finale mailing list |Finale@shsu.edu |https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale | |To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: |finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu |___ |Finale mailing list |Finale@shsu.edu |https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale | |To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: |finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Won't hide empty staves
FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
I had some similar behavior, and fixed it by saving a 2014 file as 2012 and editing it there. I'll port it back to 2014 if I have to. (Windows) Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
