On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:38 PM, John Howell wrote:
While I may be very wrong, I have to say I've never seen or heard of a
bass trombone with an extra-wide bore. Nor have I ever heard or
read any trombone except the BBb instrument called a contrabass.
[...]
If what you say is true, I wonder
But these were not what you described before, Andrew. These are
contrabass trombones in BBb (and one in F) made to play Wagner, etc.
Not suitable for everyday use, not versatile, not the instrument for
your utopian brass section. Use it only if you have at least four
trombonists. The
On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Ray Horton wrote:
It is very easy to say what trombone you want. Trombone implies a
tenor trombone (in a symphonic or serious contemporary music
situation, it implies a large-bore tenor with an F-attachement.)
Bass trombone is the instrument you are trying so
Speaking of King Kong ... that low BBBb has all the aural essence
of how I've always imagined a flatulent thousand pound Gorilla would
sound.
Dean
On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:38 PM, John Howell wrote:
While I may be very wrong, I have to
At 4:28 PM -0400 8/28/09, Andrew Stiller wrote:
A bass trombone differs from a regular trombone (I won't say tenor
because half my readers would instantly assume I was talking about
the simplex instrument) in having a second trigger--in E,
specifically to enable production of B natural below
On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Ray Horton wrote:
Andrew suggests:
contrabass trombone (i.e. wide-bore Bb/F bass w. addl. D trigger)
Just what do you mean, Andrew? Do you mean a contrabass trombone in
BBb, same pitch as a BBb tuba, but with two valves? Not made - no
valves, or one valve
So is the advantage to writing for a contrabass trombone one of range, or
strictly one of timbre? Just looking through the Ring Cycle it doesn't
look like the contrabass goes down any lower than the regular bass. I
understand thet IU had two contrabass bones, both of which had valves.
ajr
On
Andrew, I hate to correct a man who is such an expert, an you are. But
you have a mistaken impression on a few counts.
it is just impossible to say what trombone you want without going into
a whole lengthy description.
It is very easy to say what trombone you want. Trombone implies a
arabu...@cowtown.net wrote:
So is the advantage to writing for a contrabass trombone one of range, or
strictly one of timbre? Just looking through the Ring Cycle it doesn't
look like the contrabass goes down any lower than the regular bass. I
understand thet IU had two contrabass bones, both of
On 27-Aug-09, at 27-Aug-09 5:38 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 4:22 PM -0400 8/27/09, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Ray Horton wrote:
a conventional bass trombone in Bb with two valves. This is
never called a contrabass trombone. In that case
About 10 years ago,
Andrew suggests:
contrabass trombone (i.e. wide-bore Bb/F bass w. addl. D trigger)
Just what do you mean, Andrew? Do you mean a contrabass trombone in
BBb, same pitch as a BBb tuba, but with two valves? Not made - no
valves, or one valve only. Either way, the contrabass slide trombone
Couple of comments...
1. Cimbasso, anyone? Does the LO own one, Ray, or does anyone in your section?
Perhaps that is what Andrew means? Cimbassi come in all the tuba keys (F, Eb,
CC, BBb)
2. A great use for euphonium is as a replacement for the HORN in a brass
quintet. Our quintet has been
FWIW, I remember that the Dallas Symphony was trying to beg and borrow a
cimbasso for something by Verdi. I think that the Dallas Opera had
one--don't know how it ended.
And, if you want to hear some effective euphonium writing, check out my
Canzona e Scherzo Capriccioso (Vienna Modern Masters CD
I agree to most of what you say, Jim, except for #1. I am sure that
cimbasso was not on Andrew's mind. Cimbasso is not a versatile
instrument, the sound is a specialized one, and yes, I do own own one -
a Cervany bass trombone sized straight model in F. Perfect for the
lighter cimbasso
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FWIW, I remember that the Dallas Symphony was trying to beg and borrow a
cimbasso for something by Verdi. I
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