Apparently Brahms did have something to say about women composers. Can
anybody give me a serious source for this quote, found in a German
musical calendar with no bibliographical references:
Es wird dann erst eine Komponistin geben, wenn der erste Mann ein Kind
zur Welt gebracht hat
Check in Program Options Save and Print. What is the setting for
Save preferences When Quitting Finale? If you want preferences to
be saved automatically, this option should be selected.
On 6 Mar 2007, at 00:31, Brennon Bortz wrote:
Does anyone know why my preferences seem to disappear with
Just create an expression in the tempo marks category. There's now
a menu (Insert Note) where you can choose the note value, and if
you continue typing something like = 120, you'll see that Finale
automatically changes to the font defined for tempo marking numbers.
Allen, this needs to be made clear in the documentation. If you look
at the page on tempo marking, you'll see it still says:
Note that you can easily generate full-featured metronome marking
expressions with the Create Tempo Marking plug-in. See Create Tempo
I would call it buried in the expression designer. Double-click in
the score to see the list of expressions. If the tempo marking you
want is already there, just use it. If it isn't already there, one
click takes you to the Expression Designer where you can create the
Do you have an exact date for the parts? I'm looking at my copy of
Daniel Koury's Orchestral performance Prcatices in the Nineteenth
Century, where he gives many lists of the strengths of different
orchestras. For example, in Munich in 1803, the Churbayerishe
Kapelle, led by Cannabich,
On 16 Nov 2008, at 15:36, David Froom wrote:
You might consider not using it. I'm not sure it takes all that
much longer to make a tempo change now. You double-click to add an
expression, click on the Tempo Marks set, select one of the given
expressions, click on duplicate, then edit.
On 16 Nov 2008, at 18:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
The Quarter note = circa 100 can be done with the plugin,
How? To be absolutely clear, I'm talking about the quarter note
symbol. I can only make the plug-in create circa [quarter note] =
100, not [quarter note] = circa 100
, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Florence + Michael
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16 Nov 2008, at 18:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
The Quarter note = circa 100 can be done with the plugin,
How? To be absolutely clear, I'm talking about the quarter note
can only make the plug-in create circa
Are you using Finale 2009? If that's the case, this is easy to do
with the Expression Tool:
Choose the Tempo Marks category and click on Create Tempo Mark. In
the Expression Designer for tempo marks, you'll see insert note on
a drop-down menu. Just choose the dotted quarter from the menu,
Good repeats are nice simple ones that just repeat a whole passage,
especially if they economise on pages turns.
Bad repeats are those that say first time round jump to B, second
time round play these 8 measures, then jump to D, third time round
play everything up to E, then jump to Coda
Barbara, could you explain exactly in what situations you need more
than 8 score lists?
On 11 Dec 2008, at 21:27, Barbara Touburg wrote:
• Expanded Score Lists. The number of Score Lists (previously
called “Staff Lists”)
has been increased from 4 to 8.
Nope. Still not enough
I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score lists
for Beethoven's 9th?
On 11 Dec 2008, at 22:02, Barbara Touburg wrote:
Florence + Michael wrote:
Barbara, could you explain exactly in what situations you need
more than 8 score lists?
On 11 Dec 2008, at 22:30, Barbara Touburg wrote:
Florence + Michael wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score
lists for Beethoven's 9th?
I think I understand the mix-up. My fault entirely. I meant staff
lists of course. Can't remember what
On 12 Dec 2008, at 02:36, Allen Fisher wrote:
For example, add the tpt solo to the Technique Text group.
Down at the bottom of the selection dialog, note the assign button
click the little pop-up menu next to it.
Create a new assignment list with the staves.
Assign to the score
Select all of
If you want to do this, use one of the techniques Allen describes.
It'll mean a change of habit, but once you get used to it you'll find
it's just as fast as the old method. In some situations (assigning an
expression to a group of contiguous staves, for instance), it's faster.
I prefer to
Fake it. Rewrite the notes in an extra layer in the treble clef so
they look as they would in bass clef. Of course it won't play back
correctly, but it's easy enough to get it looking right on the page
Long-time lurker here.
I have some piano music which has an octave in the bass
I think the flat beams are fine. Of course you should move the
hairpins up. You should also move the staves closer together: not
only will this save space, it will look more balanced.
Don't forget to move the stem of the second to last note in measure
five to the other side of the note.
Which version of Finale are you using? In 2009 there is no longer a
distinction between measure- and note-attached expressions. In older
versions, the attachment will depend on the setting chosen in the
On 13 Jan 2009, at 18:34, Barbara Touburg wrote:
Context Sensitive applies to expressions entered with Metatools. If
you're using Metatools, the expressions will be entered as measure-
attached or note-attached, depending on whether the little note shows
on the cursor. If you are entering expressions with double click, the
The menu setting has applied only to Metatools since it existed, that
is to say since Finale 2000. In earlier versions, there were separate
tools for Score Expressions and Staff Expressions, which were
combined into one tool in Finale 2000: Score Expressions became
The apps in the iWork suite will open Apple Works documents as long
as they are word processing (use Pages), spreadsheet (use Numbers) or
presentation (use Keynote). I'm not sure what will open draw or paint
documents directly: if you use AppleWorks first to incorporate a
drawing into a
I think it's always been like this. I checked in Finale 2004b: it is
also necessary to use the slash key on both the grace note and the
eighth note. I think there is also a difference depending on if you
create the grace notes as you go along, or if you first write
everything as normal
The vertical collision remover is a mess. I was very excited about it
when it was announced in the beta testing round for 2007 and spent a
lot of time testing it and figuring out how the options are meant to
work. It was soon clear that even the people at MakeMusic weren't
clear about how
Noel, two questions:
1: What were the exact settings in the Vertical Collision Remover
2: Are you on Windows or Mac?
On 18 Jan 2009, at 23:04, noel jones wrote:
I have, since it was introduced to me by this list, had really good
luck using this plugin...
I type in
The quantization setting you need is allow dotted rests in compound
meters. If this setting is checked, the dotted breves will stay
(Yes, I know that 3/1 isn't a compound meter, and that the problem
affects notes as well as rests. Go figure. Tell MakeMusic about it:
1. In the Speedy menu, remove the check mark by Insert notes or rests.
2. In Speedy Options (under Speedy menu), remove the check mark by
Fill with Rests at End of Measure
On 13 Feb 2009, at 01:31, Katherine Hoover wrote:
I still need answers to the
I just updated Finale 2009 to 2009b on my Powerbook (I haven't used
Finale on the Powerbook for several months). Now Finale crashes on
launch: I see the splash screen, I see all the mesages that tell me
stuff is loading, the spash screen disappears and then Finale quits.
I realised that I have already experienced this problem and that I in
fact know the solution! It happens when I try to use Finale in a non-
administrator account. The solution: log in as administrator and
change the permissions of the Finale application folder (and
everything inside it) to
You can set up staff styles that force the instruments to transpose
the other way for just these passages. For trumpets or soprano saxes,
create the new staff style and select Transposition. Set Interval
to 2 (notes are written two steps higher on the stave than the
On 21 May 2009, at 22:09, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 May 2009 at 9:45, Chuck Israels wrote:
On May 21, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
the Magnetic layout is all there really
is that stands out.
I agree, but that seems extraordinarily attractive.
I would second that (or, I
On 22 May 2009, at 19:49, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com
Sib 6 answer: The slur now has 6 (I think) control boxes that can
in many different directions. You can drag it with a mouse (clumsy)
arrow keys (elegant), and they can be adjusted independently
Damn: it seems I live in the wrong country. All I can find for Europe
is a 35% discount for Finale users. This means I could buy Sibelius
for £386.75. That's about 600 dollars!
What's the reason for this huge difference in price between USA and
On 28 May 2009, at 20:41,
I can assure you that Speedy Entry has not been removed from 2010.
All other tools (Travis Neville mentioned the Key Signature tool) are
there as well.
On 29 May 2009, at 19:19, Stephen Lamb wrote:
On 14 Jun 2009, at 01:22, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
The only prob I had with the User Manual, is that the Search
function did nothing when I tried it.
The bug has been acknowledged. It should work if you press Enter
instead of clicking on the Search button.
This still works in 2008. When you print the file, you will see that
in the Mac print dialog there is a menu which has Finale 2008 as
one of the choices. Choose this and you'll see the Tile Pages
option. Look up tiling in the user manual for more details.
On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:35,
On 1 Jul 2009, at 11:02, Daniel Wolf wrote:
Turandot, a nice little program from Hungary, very stable with nice
looking out of the box output (very similar in look to EMB
editions), suitable for standard classical repertoire. Well-suited
for students. However, development stopped at
I can test this with Preview without a printer attached to the
computer. In the Page Setup dialog I set the paper size for Any
Printer. In the print dialog there's a menu which usually shows
Copies and Pages: when I click on this menu I am able to choose the
Finale 2008 option which gives
Strange: I don't know what's causing this. My S and Coda signs only
appear on the staves I've defined in the staff list. A handle shows
up on each staff, but only the handles on the chosen staves have a
sign attached to them.
Stupid things to check:
1: In the Text Repeat Assignment
I don't know what the error code means: I guess the file is
corrupted. I keep all my old versions of Finale, from 3.7 onwards,
and never throw out the original versions of older files, since I'm
wary of bugs in the process of importing files into newer versions.
You could try sending the
Guitar and bass are transposing instruments. I'm sure that if you
look at the transposition options in the staff attributes, you'll
find that simplify key is checked.
On 30 Sep 2009, at 19:40, Carl Dershem wrote:
I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-
An unsolicited mail offering you OEM software at unbeatable prices is
almost certainly a scam. Have a look here:
On 2 Oct 2009, at 19:18, Michael Greensill wrote:
I just got an e-mail from some company called OEM software
I just installed Finale 2010 on my Powerbook G4. It doesn't have
enough RAM for the Garritan instruments, so I didn't install them.
Every time I launch Finale, I get this message.
Your serial number is not correct.
Please run the Registration Tool to enter the correct serial number
If you click on Apply in the Document Options -Beams dialog, you
should immediately see the results of any change you've made: no need
to use rebeam or to select part of the document, since these
settings affect the whole document.
At the top of the dialog, there are four choices for
No, it's not obsolete. Both Bratsche (plural Bratschen) and
Viola (plural Violen) are used in German. In spoken German I'm
more used to hearing Bratsche; in printed scores I see both terms
but I don't know which one is more common. Suit yourself!
On 16 Dec 2009, at 02:56, Ryan
On 16 Dec 2009, at 17:36, John Howell wrote:
At 5:56 PM -0800 12/15/09, Ryan wrote:
Is the term Bratschen for violas obsolete in German? Would it be
If you like, I could ask on the OrchestraList. Or the ViolaList.
I'm certainly not aware of any change from the
On 28 Dec 2009, at 21:44, David W. Fenton wrote:
Do recent versions of Finale allow export to more web-friendly and/or
more efficient formats? PNG would be ideal.
Finale 2010 for Mac exports EPS, JPEG, PICT PNG and TIFF files.
Florence + Michael écrit:
I don't think removing changes with special tools will help, since
the beat charts are irregular in the examples Dennis gave.
I had this problem with a file I was sent. I made a new empty
template and imported the music from the original file into it: that
document spaced correctly.
On 21 Feb 2010, at 19:08, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Copy and insert is much more reliable than copy and paste when
copying across documents.
On 21 Feb 2010, at 12:58 PM, Florence + Michael wrote:
On 21 Feb 2010, at 19:23, David Froom wrote:
I just tried what I think was wrong. My guess is that your guy did
manual spacing with the special tools note mover thing, or he
dragged things while in speedy note (it amounts to the same thing).
But dragging like this does not
Instead of deleting measures, use the page layout tool to delete
systems. Optimization and distances between systems/staves will move
with the music.
On 11 Mar 2010, at 08:50, dc wrote:
What's the easiest way to extract the last movement of a piece to
make a separate edition of
On 17 Mar 2010, at 21:28, Andrew Stiller wrote:
There's at least one exception to that. In an early-19th c. French
book about the proper pinning of barrel organs, there's a detailed
illustration of the pinning for a barrel to play the overture to
The Marriage of Figaro. When the
In novels, three asterisks in a row on a line of their own indicate a change of
scene, or time passes. Maybe interlude could be another suitable title for
the piece in question?
On 1 May 2010, at 05:20, Richard Yates wrote:
The contents page of Leopoldo Miguez's 12 Pecas
For new music? If you do a lot of music with lyrics, I'd say get it. It is
much, much easier and faster to get good lyric spacing with the new version.
For me, the upgrade is worth it for this improvement alone.
Apart from that, the improvements in the way staff spacing is handled are very
The preference setting for the Message Bar is in Program Options New.
On 19 Jun 2010, at 04:00, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
Obviously I upgraded to 2011. Only finished one smaller project so far and
have not run into disasters yet.
However I am annoyed by a minor detail. As I
This is a recognised bug in Finale 2011. The configuration files have a new
location in Finale 2011. Finale should copy all the necessary files to
~user/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2011/ but in some cases this
doesn't work correctly. To make things worse, there are several
Have a look at measure attributes. It could be that Position Notes is set to
Manually (by Dragging). If that's the case, change it to Using Beat-Chart
On 24 Aug 2010, at 02:06, Richard Huggins wrote:
I fear corruption in a file where if I make *any* edit to a measure of
On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Florence + Michael wrote:
Look at Document Options - Music Spacing - Spacing Widths. The file is set
to use a spacing width table, but the spacing width table is empty.
Either load a spacing width table from the libraries, or set the option use
Use Font Book to get rid of duplicate fonts.
On 16 Sep 2010, at 22:50, Neal Gittleman wrote:
Sorry to retread old ground...
I just got a new system (MacBook Pro) and am opening a FinMac2k10 file for
the first time. I have that annoying it's-not-the-right-fonts problem that
The last time I had to mark up a set of orchestral parts from a critical
Bärenreiter edition of a Mozart opera, there were two sets of horn parts. The
horn players told me they preferred to use the parts written as in the
original, without key signatures.
As to David's original question, I
The usual transposition for a Bb instrument is Interval 1 and Key Alter 2,
meaning one step up and add two sharps. You need the trumpet part to be written
in Gb major, so the settings should be two steps up and enough flats to cancel
the four sharps of E major and create the six flats for Gb
I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag
Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a
score this recent: all female voices are written in soprano clef and the tenors
in tenor clef. I thought this practice had died out in the
On 6 Nov 2010, at 19:22, John Howell wrote:
Gounod is hardly what I'd call a recent composer, since he died in 1910.
And that score is undoubtedly a reprint of a much earlier edition.
Of course Gounod isn't a recent composer, but that edition is recent and
certainly not a reprint of an
Yes, you're right and it's a pain. The only solution I've found is to do as you
say: have a score file and a parts file. I've already said all I could about
this to Makemusic, giving examples. Do complain to them as well!
On 24 Nov 2010, at 20:25, David Froom wrote:
There's Times+Musical by Matthew Hindson, but it's regular, not bold. If you
want to download it (Mac only) from his site, it's free:
On 25 Nov 2010, at 22:34, Chuck Israels wrote:
I'm not sure you
Welcome to the joys of ossia measures. The ossia measure is disappearing
because you have attached it to the scratch staff. When you double click to
create the ossia measure, make sure that you double click on a real staff,
one that is not going to be hidden. In the Ossia Measure Designer you
I have the same problem, and no solution.
On 3 Jan 2011, at 22:44, Lawrence Yates wrote:
I have whinged about this in the past - it's a ** nuisance which means I
have to work from a score in C because the sounds Finale plays as I enter
notes in a transposing score put me off. I wish it
Whether I work with a C score or a transposed one depends on the source I'm
using: If I'm given a C score to transcribe, I'll enter the music in a C score.
If I'm given a transposed score, I'll enter the music in a transposed score.
When I'm working with a transposed score, I would much prefer
The Setup Wizard should open with the page size defined in the default Document
Style. Also, if you have changed the page size in any particular Document
Style, you should see this page size automatically selected when you select
that style in the list on the first page of the Setup Wizard.
. I don't have to select the page sizes only reselect the doc style.
On 9 Jan 2011, at 04:21, Florence + Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:
The Setup Wizard should open with the page size defined in the default
Document Style. Also, if you have changed the page size in any
have to deselect then reselect the document style and only then do I
get A4 - without touching the page sizes.
Any other ideas - there may be some basic, obvious thing I've never learnt.
On 9 Jan 2011, at 09:53, Florence + Michael wrote:
It could be that you also need to edit
is automatically selected.
On 9 Jan 2011, at 11:06, Florence + Michael wrote:
For the moment I don't know, but maybe we can work it out.
When you open the setup wizard:
- what document style is selected?
- what page size is selected?
On 9 Jan 2011, at 11:52, Steve Parker
In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited.
The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt
file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the
library in your user folder, not in the main library.
It should default to the first page size in the list. Make sure that this is
exactly the same as the one in your document style.
On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:59, Steve Parker wrote:
In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you
edited. The page sizes menu in the
Maybe I can help. How big is the file?
On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:10, Steve Parker wrote:
Is it possible to send a score file to someone?
I have an issue that seems like a bug and a general question.
Finally enough of a break in between work to get my chops up..
if the original default files were
contained in the application package itself: then the only default files that a
particular user could find and edit would be in their own user account.
On 10 Jan 2011, at 10:50, David H. Bailey wrote:
On 1/9/2011 8:57 AM, Florence + Michael wrote
I tried the Merge Layers, Keep Line and Merge Articulations on my Mac (Intel
Core 2 Duo, OS 10.6.6, Finale 2011c ): everything seems fine.
On 16 Jan 2011, at 12:23, Jari Williamsson wrote:
These plug-ins are now also ported to the Mac:
* JW Topline Notation
These look like what you're after:
I don't know how good they are: maybe some of the the list members will play
around with them and give their opinions.
On 27 Jan 2011, at 01:55, Matthew Hindson
On 28 Jan 2011, at 16:49, Robert Patterson wrote:
How about all the songs in the fake books. Jazz standards, Beatles, and the
Yes. Something like Over The Rainbow or Yesterday should fit the bill.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.comwrote:
Yes, Herausgegeben von is Edited by. I don't think I've ever seen the
engraver credited on a score, but I think Gestaltung is OK. Or you could just
say Design, which is also used in German.
On 31 Jan 2011, at 06:42, John Howell wrote:
At 2:49 AM +0100 1/31/11, SN jef chippewa wrote:
I recently received my copy of Behind Bars, Elaine Gould's definitive guide
to notation. She says that a dotted note and a note without a dot may share a
single dotted notehead, unless this makes the rhythms ambiguous, in which case
you should use separate noteheads. For the example you give,
or less at random or prompted by a particular question.
I'll let you all know if I find anything that shocks me, or if I _don't_ find
something that I think ought to be in there. For the moment I'm very impressed.
On 3 Feb 2011, at 18:05, dc wrote:
Florence + Michael écrit:
I just leafed through some of my piano music: Henle Urtext, Wiener Urtext,
Bärenreiter and other renowned European publishers. Two different valued notes
sharing a notehead is a common occurence: putting double noteheads in all
those places would clutter up the music unnecessarily.
I've seen all those situations. The least common one seems to be two different
dotted values: not because people use two noteheads in this situation (they
usually don't), but simply because two dotted notes of different values on a
unison doesn't happen as often as the other cases.
If it's possible, make the clef change where a beam already breaks, between two
beats or between two phrases. If extremes of range force you to put a clef
change in the middle of a beamed group, don't break the beam: it's important to
show that the rhythmic grouping continues. If you break the
to break a beamed
group with a clef change.
On 5 Feb 2011, at 19:27, John Howell wrote:
At 9:54 AM +0100 2/5/11, Florence + Michael wrote:
If it's possible, make the clef change where a beam already breaks, between
two beats or between two phrases. If extremes of range force you
I have the Henle Urtext edition of that Nocturne, which should reproduce
Chopin's notation: as far as I can see it is the same as in that example. We're
discussing dotted notes that share noteheads: you can see some in measures 33 -
Another nice example is given the Nocturne in F# minor,
by dotted notes.
On 8 Feb 2011, at 14:26, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 8 Feb 2011 at 10:33, Florence + Michael wrote:
I have the Henle Urtext edition of that Nocturne, which should
reproduce Chopin's notation:
You seem to have a naïve idea about what a Henle Urtext
Go to Document Options Notes and Rests and change the value for Spacing
Before Music. If you set this to zero, the first note of the measure will be
stuck to the barline, so its better to just reduce it to maybe half of the
default value. You can also set a negative value for Spacing After
If it's a horn in B natural alto, it's written a minor second higher than it
sounds. For Finale, this means setting:
- Chromatic Transposition
- Interval 2
- Alteration -1
If it's a horn in B natural basso, then you'll need to set 9 for the interval.
The alteration will still be -1.
it may well be).
On 11 Mar 2011, at 00:06, Ryan wrote:
Michael, I think your intervals are off. When I tried your settings, Finale
gave me what amounts to Horn in Ab (with the wrong key signature).
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Florence + Michael
If it used to work with Acrobat and still works with Preview, then it seems
likely that the problem is with Acrobat. Have you tried trashing all
preferences and .plist files for Acrobat? You could also look for other
versions of the driver, from either Epson or Adobe.
On 26 May 2011,
Coming before the two note figure it should certainly be a short grace note
(see Leopold Mozart's Violinschule or Daniel Gottlob Türk's Klavierschule).
In this situation, two sixteenths followed by an eighth would be an unusual
rhythm: if Weber had wanted it to sound that way, he would have
Finale isn't working at all for me with Lion. After downloading and installing
Lion, I launched Finale 2011. I got a message saying that Java Runtime was
needed. That's normal. Java was downloaded and Finale launched OK. However, now
it crashes each time I try to launch it. I'm waiting for a
I find that if I click in the space next to the Number of Beats slider, it
moves by one position, increasing or decreasing the number of beats by one. It
gets a bit tricky to hit the space when decreasing from three to two beats: in
this case, I find it quicker to move the slider left to the
I've already seen this marking in baroque music: in a string part it denotes a
measured Bogenvibrato, a change in intensity (not in pitch), created with the
bow. Basically you should play the notes completely legato, in the same bow
stroke, with a effect on each note.
If it were written in
Look at the Speedy menu.
- If Insert Notes Or Rests is selected, pressing a number key when the cursor
is on a note will insert a note before the selected one.
- If Insert Notes Or Rests is _not_ selected, Speedy will change the duration
of the selected note when a number key is pressed.
In order to scroll one bar at a time on Mac OS Lion, you can install Smart
Scroll. It's free to evaluate from http://marcmoini.com/sx_en.html and I highly
recommend it: using the default settings for right/left scrolling you can
advance or go back one measure at a time using the keyboard.
A full install is more than two and a half gigabytes (it's the Garritan sounds
that take up most of the space). The installer needs to download those
gigabytes from MakeMusic to your computer, taking more or less time depending
on your connection speed and how busy the MakeMusic server is.
The answer is probably to be found in the score list for the Rehearsal Marks
category. In the Expression Selection dialog, click on Edit Categories to get
to the Category Designer. Have a look at the score list for Rehearsal Marks.
On 13 Nov 2011, at 10:40, Haroldo Mauro Jr wrote:
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