Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

On 10/14/2018 5:05 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

He ask ME the question. I answered back I don’t use bill fonts on a windows 
machine.

Who died and put you in charge?



Nobody.  Sorry I said anything.


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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Eric Dannewitz]

He ask ME the question. I answered back I don’t use bill fonts on a windows 
machine.

Who died and put you in charge?

Sent from my iSomething
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> On Oct 14, 2018, at 2:01 PM, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2018 4:46 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
>> Nothing “silly” there. Just stating a fact. I have no clue where the file 
>> locations for FInale in Windows would be.
> 
> Then don't answer the question.  Making it seem as if he has made a poor 
> decision to use both Finale and Windows does nobody any good.  Has your reply 
> really moved Martin closer to a solution to his problem?
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

On 10/14/2018 4:46 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

Nothing “silly” there. Just stating a fact. I have no clue where the file 
locations for FInale in Windows would be.


Then don't answer the question.  Making it seem as if he has made a poor 
decision to use both Finale and Windows does nobody any good.  Has your 
reply really moved Martin closer to a solution to his problem?



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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Eric Dannewitz]

Nothing “silly” there. Just stating a fact. I have no clue where the file 
locations for FInale in Windows would be.



> On Oct 14, 2018, at 1:44 PM, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
> On 10/14/2018 12:52 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
>> Don’t use windows and finale so..sorry.
> 
> Please don't start that silly argument.  Again.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

On 10/14/2018 12:52 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

Don’t use windows and finale so..sorry.



Please don't start that silly argument.  Again.


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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Eric Dannewitz]

Don’t use windows and finale so..sorry.



Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 14, 2018, at 2:52 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric  Bill Duncan software 
> Very sorry to be completely Dumb here
> I have loaded the fonts but now can’t find them
> Could you give me a dummies guide
> Perhaps a few screen shots 
> Move libraries to libraries folder ( not sure how to get there ) is that from 
> windows to finale ?
> Start new doc !! ... do you mean open a new template in finale ?
> 
> Load libraries In file menu in finale 
> Thank you again for your help 
> And sorry for being slow 
> Best
> Martin 
> I’m on finale 25
> Windows 10
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 16:56, Christopher Smith  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The only thing missing from this would be the metatool assignments, which 
>> would be present in the included templates. I don’t care for the included 
>> templates, though, so I would manually assign the metatools after following 
>> Eric’s advice.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Eric Dannewitz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have windows install the fonts 
>>> 
>>> Move libraries to your libraries folder
>>> 
>>> Start new doc.
>>> 
>>> Load libraries 
>>> 
>>> Enjoy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iSomething
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi to all
>>>> Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill 
>>>> Duncan 
>>>> Fonts etc
>>>> I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends 
>>>> I did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
>>>> if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
>>>> I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
>>>>> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t 
>>>>> space properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Giz 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
>>>>> To: Finale 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using 
>>>>> Jazz font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was 
>>>>> why Bill made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
>>>>> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font 
>>>>> for slashes and rhythmic notation.   
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chuck   
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>&g

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Martin Nickless]

Hi Eric  Bill Duncan software 
Very sorry to be completely Dumb here
I have loaded the fonts but now can’t find them
Could you give me a dummies guide
Perhaps a few screen shots 
Move libraries to libraries folder ( not sure how to get there ) is that from 
windows to finale ?
Start new doc !! ... do you mean open a new template in finale ?

Load libraries In file menu in finale 
Thank you again for your help 
And sorry for being slow 
Best
Martin 
I’m on finale 25
Windows 10

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Oct 2018, at 16:56, Christopher Smith  
> wrote:
> 
> The only thing missing from this would be the metatool assignments, which 
> would be present in the included templates. I don’t care for the included 
> templates, though, so I would manually assign the metatools after following 
> Eric’s advice.
> 
> Christopher
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Eric Dannewitz  wrote:
>> 
>> Have windows install the fonts 
>> 
>> Move libraries to your libraries folder
>> 
>> Start new doc.
>> 
>> Load libraries 
>> 
>> Enjoy
>> 
>> Sent from my iSomething
>> --
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi to all
>>> Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill Duncan 
>>> Fonts etc
>>> I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends 
>>> I did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
>>> if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
>>> I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
>>>> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t 
>>>> space properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Giz 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
>>>> To: Finale 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using 
>>>> Jazz font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was 
>>>> why Bill made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
>>>> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font 
>>>> for slashes and rhythmic notation.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck Israels
>>>> 
>>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> cisra...@comcast.net ( 
>>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> mailto:cisra...@comcast.net)
>>>> 
>>>> (360) 201-3434 (  tel:(360)%20201-3434)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>>> 
>>>> Portland OR 97202
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Martin Nickless]

Thanks also 
Martin

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Oct 2018, at 16:56, Christopher Smith  
> wrote:
> 
> The only thing missing from this would be the metatool assignments, which 
> would be present in the included templates. I don’t care for the included 
> templates, though, so I would manually assign the metatools after following 
> Eric’s advice.
> 
> Christopher
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Eric Dannewitz  wrote:
>> 
>> Have windows install the fonts 
>> 
>> Move libraries to your libraries folder
>> 
>> Start new doc.
>> 
>> Load libraries 
>> 
>> Enjoy
>> 
>> Sent from my iSomething
>> --
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi to all
>>> Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill Duncan 
>>> Fonts etc
>>> I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends 
>>> I did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
>>> if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
>>> I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
>>>> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t 
>>>> space properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Giz 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
>>>> To: Finale 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using 
>>>> Jazz font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was 
>>>> why Bill made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
>>>> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font 
>>>> for slashes and rhythmic notation.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck Israels
>>>> 
>>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> cisra...@comcast.net ( 
>>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> mailto:cisra...@comcast.net)
>>>> 
>>>> (360) 201-3434 (  tel:(360)%20201-3434)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>>> 
>>>> Portland OR 97202
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  >>>>> <mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Martin Nickless]

Thankyou will give it a go 
Martin

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Oct 2018, at 16:27, Eric Dannewitz  wrote:
> 
> Have windows install the fonts 
> 
> Move libraries to your libraries folder
> 
> Start new doc.
> 
> Load libraries 
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> Sent from my iSomething
> --
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi to all
>> Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill Duncan 
>> Fonts etc
>> I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends I 
>> did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
>> if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
>> I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
>>> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
>>> properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Giz 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
>>> To: Finale 
>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
>>> font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why 
>>> Bill made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
>>> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font 
>>> for slashes and rhythmic notation.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck Israels
>>> 
>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> cisra...@comcast.net ( 
>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> mailto:cisra...@comcast.net)
>>> 
>>> (360) 201-3434 (  tel:(360)%20201-3434)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Portland OR 97202
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  >>>> <mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
>>>> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
>>>> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Giz
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>>> From: Finale [ <mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu> 
>>>> mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz
>>> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
>>> 
>>>> To:  <mailto:finale@shsu.edu> finale@shsu.edu
>>> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Christopher Smith]

The only thing missing from this would be the metatool assignments, which would 
be present in the included templates. I don’t care for the included templates, 
though, so I would manually assign the metatools after following Eric’s advice.

Christopher

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Eric Dannewitz  wrote:
> 
> Have windows install the fonts 
> 
> Move libraries to your libraries folder
> 
> Start new doc.
> 
> Load libraries 
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> Sent from my iSomething
> --
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi to all
>> Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill Duncan 
>> Fonts etc
>> I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends I 
>> did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
>> if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
>> I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
>>> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
>>> properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Giz 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
>>> To: Finale 
>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
>>> font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why 
>>> Bill made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
>>> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font 
>>> for slashes and rhythmic notation.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck Israels
>>> 
>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> cisra...@comcast.net ( 
>>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> mailto:cisra...@comcast.net)
>>> 
>>> (360) 201-3434 (  tel:(360)%20201-3434)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Portland OR 97202
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  >>>> <mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
>>>> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
>>>> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Giz
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>>> From: Finale [ <mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu> 
>>>> mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz
>>> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
>>> 
>>>> To:  <mailto:finale@shsu.edu> finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Eric Dannewitz]

Have windows install the fonts 

Move libraries to your libraries folder

Start new doc.

Load libraries 

Enjoy

Sent from my iSomething
--


> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all
> Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill Duncan 
> Fonts etc
> I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends I 
> did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
> if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
> I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
>> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
>> properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Giz 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
>> To: Finale 
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
>> font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why 
>> Bill made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
>> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font for 
>> slashes and rhythmic notation.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck Israels
>> 
>>  <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> cisra...@comcast.net ( 
>> <mailto:cisra...@comcast.net> mailto:cisra...@comcast.net)
>> 
>> (360) 201-3434 (  tel:(360)%20201-3434)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
>> 
>> Portland OR 97202
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  >>> <mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
>>> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
>>> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Giz
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>> 
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>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
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>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s 
>>> articulation font and use Maestro.  
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Martin Nickless]

Hi to all
Does anybody have any help they could give me on setting up the Bill Duncan 
Fonts etc
I purchased it and was able to download the files but that’s where it ends I 
did contact them but they didn’t know either!!
 if anybody is familiar with the process that would  be  fantastic 
I’m on finale 25 using Windows 10 very best and thanks again Martin

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> On 13 Oct 2018, at 04:32, Girard Bowe  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
> properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Giz 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
> To: Finale 
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
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> 
> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
> font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why Bill 
> made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font for 
> slashes and rhythmic notation.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
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> Chuck   
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> Chuck Israels
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>>> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  >> <mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:
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> 
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> 
>> I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
>> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
>> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Giz
> 
>> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
> 
>> From: Finale [ <mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu> 
>> mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz
> 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
> 
>> To:  <mailto:finale@shsu.edu> finale@shsu.edu
> 
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
> 
>> 
> 
>> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s 
>> articulation font and use Maestro.  
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Chuck Israels]

Well, all I can tell folks are the things that seem important to me.

I’ve seen the other “handwritten” fonts, and I see attractive aspects to many 
of the symbols, but my mind rebels agains any computer imitation of 
handwriting. It knows full well all the symbols are identical and done by a 
machine, so what’s the point of pretending they’re not? 

So — I’m happy enough with Maestro and Engraver and Bill’s extras, and grateful 
for how much Bill did for the look of my music. Grateful to Jari Williamson too!

And I too think I paid too much for what isn’t much of an improvement over 
Finale 25.

Chuck

> On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Girard Bowe  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
> articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
> properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Giz 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
> To: Finale 
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
> font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why Bill 
> made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
> unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font for 
> slashes and rhythmic notation.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jazz charts look much better with them.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck   
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Chuck Israels
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>> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  > <mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
>> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
>> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Giz
> 
>> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
> 
>> From: Finale [ <mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu> 
>> mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz
> 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
> 
>> To:  <mailto:finale@shsu.edu> finale@shsu.edu
> 
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
> 
>> 
> 
>> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s 
>> articulation font and use Maestro.  
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Girard Bowe]

Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.

 

I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.

 

Best regards,

 

Giz 

 

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From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
To: Finale 
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

 

  

  

 

I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   

  

 

  

There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why Bill 
made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   

  

 

  

There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font for 
slashes and rhythmic notation.   

  

 

  

Jazz charts look much better with them.   

  

 

  

Chuck   

  

  

  

  

 

  

 

  

  

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> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> 
> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:

>   

>   

>   

>   

>  I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.

> 

> Giz

> 

> -Original Message-

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> mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz

> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM

> To:  <mailto:finale@shsu.edu> finale@shsu.edu

> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

> 

> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s articulation 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions? JazzFont Alternative

[David H. Bailey]

Jan, thank you for those links and the reminders about these fine fonts!

It's great to have alternatives to the fonts that install with Finale, 
and especially for including the font annotation files!  It certainly 
looks like you've done a very thorough job making these fonts work with 
Finale.


Thank you!
David H. Bailey

On 10/12/2018 1:31 AM, Jan Angermüller wrote:

Also, where is the promised alternative to JazzFont, which
has some truly ugly characters? 


Girard, why don't you use the free Elbsound Music Font Package for Finale?
25 music fonts including four alternative jazz fonts - all 100% 
compatible with Maestro.

LijazFIN looks very similar to JazzFont.
As the fonts are fully compatible you can even use "Set Default Music 
Font" to change the font (see 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3AEjB1Ci1s ).


Examples of the handwritten fonts from the package:
LijazFIN: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=LijazFIN
GldngFIN:https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=GldngFIN
JzBscFIN: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=JzBscFIN
ImprvFIN: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=ImprvFIN

And JazzFont: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=Jazz
All music symbols from the font package: 
https://elbsound.studio/download.php?f=FontSamplesAllSymbols.pdf


Download: 
https://elbsound.studio/elbsound-music-font-package-for-finale.php#download


Jan Angermueller

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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions? JazzFont Alternative

[Jan Angermüller]

Also, where is the promised alternative to JazzFont, which
has some truly ugly characters? 


Girard, why don't you use the free Elbsound Music Font Package for Finale?
25 music fonts including four alternative jazz fonts - all 100% 
compatible with Maestro.

LijazFIN looks very similar to JazzFont.
As the fonts are fully compatible you can even use "Set Default Music 
Font" to change the font (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3AEjB1Ci1s ).


Examples of the handwritten fonts from the package:
LijazFIN: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=LijazFIN
GldngFIN:https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=GldngFIN
JzBscFIN: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=JzBscFIN
ImprvFIN: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=ImprvFIN

And JazzFont: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=Jazz
All music symbols from the font package: 
https://elbsound.studio/download.php?f=FontSamplesAllSymbols.pdf


Download: 
https://elbsound.studio/elbsound-music-font-package-for-finale.php#download


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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Cisraels]

  
  

 I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   
  

  
There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why Bill 
made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   
  

  
There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font for 
slashes and rhythmic notation.   
  

  
Jazz charts look much better with them.   
  

  
Chuck   
  
  
  
  

  

  
  
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>   
> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  
> wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>   
>  I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.
>
> Giz
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
>
> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s articulation 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Girard Bowe]

I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts are 
part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord library. 
That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.

Giz

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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s articulation 
font and use Maestro. 


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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Michael Good]

Hello David and Steve,

Steve’s understanding is correct. The Dolet 7.2 for Finale plug-in is there so 
you can get batch import, batch export, and MusicXML 3.1 support in earlier 
32-bit versions of Finale. All these features are built into 64-bit Finale as 
of v25. Dolet is a 32-bit plug-in, so it won’t show up in either Finale v25 or 
v26.

Best regards,

Michael Good
VP of MusicXML Technologies
MakeMusic, Inc.

> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:31:26 +
> From: "Fiskum, Steve" 
> To: "finale@shsu.edu" 
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?
> Message-ID: <2c37f287-3526-44cf-8dc6-4dacbea82...@jspaluch.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
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> Hello David,
> 
> My understanding is the the plugin is no longer necessary and that it IS 
> built in to the program under the file menu. Look at the FAQ on the music my 
> site. ?As of V25 Finale now includes all the extra features from the filet 
> plug-in directly from the file menu. There is no longer a need for a plug-in 
> to get the full functionality. ?
> 
> Cheers!
> Steve Fiskum

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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Eric Dannewitz]

Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s articulation 
font and use Maestro.



> On Oct 11, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Girard Bowe  wrote:
> 
> Here is my response to a thread I started on the Finale Forum
>  on-dots>  regarding the spacing of the eighth-rest dot in JazzFont:
> 
> 
> 
> "Well, here it is, 2 years since my post on this thread, and 11  years since
> Christopher Smith reported this bug, and with yet another new release, this
> bug remains. Finale 26 is an extremely thin improvement, and woefully short
> in bug fixes. I wish I could get my money back. I think this will be my last
> Finale upgrade. Also, where is the promised alternative to JazzFont, which
> has some truly ugly characters? Is there a reason there is no shortcut to
> the Jazz character map in the Help dropdown menu? Is there any improvement
> to creating mix-font enclosures? Does ANYBODY from Finale care?"
> 
> 
> 
> I'm curious what bug fixes have been made that users on this list have found
> in Finale 26, and what bug fixes you're still waiting for.
> 
> 
> 
> GizB
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Girard Bowe]

Here is my response to a thread I started on the Finale Forum
  regarding the spacing of the eighth-rest dot in JazzFont:

 

"Well, here it is, 2 years since my post on this thread, and 11  years since
Christopher Smith reported this bug, and with yet another new release, this
bug remains. Finale 26 is an extremely thin improvement, and woefully short
in bug fixes. I wish I could get my money back. I think this will be my last
Finale upgrade. Also, where is the promised alternative to JazzFont, which
has some truly ugly characters? Is there a reason there is no shortcut to
the Jazz character map in the Help dropdown menu? Is there any improvement
to creating mix-font enclosures? Does ANYBODY from Finale care?"

 

I'm curious what bug fixes have been made that users on this list have found
in Finale 26, and what bug fixes you're still waiting for.

 

GizB

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Fiskum, Steve]

Hello David,

My understanding is the the plugin is no longer necessary and that it IS built 
in to the program under the file menu. Look at the FAQ on the music my site. 
“As of V25 Finale now includes all the extra features from the filet plug-in 
directly from the file menu. There is no longer a need for a plug-in to get the 
full functionality. “

Cheers!
Steve Fiskum

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 5:32 AM, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
> I have downloaded and installed Finale 26 (Windows), and at the same time I 
> have downloaded and installed the latest version of Dolet for Finale (ver7.2).
> 
> Curiously, even though the installation instructions for Dolet tells me that 
> I will be able to select where it will install, the actual installation gave 
> me no choice at all and automatically installed it in the Program Files (x86) 
> \ MakeMusic \ Dolet 7 for Finale folder.  And it created another folder 
> called Program Files (x86) \ MakeMusic \ Finale \ 26 \ Plug-ins \ MusicXML 
> where it placed the Dolet7.fxt plugin.
> 
> Unfortunately, my Finale 26 installation is in the Program Files \ MakeMusic 
> \ Finale \ 26 folder, so the placement of the plug-in is not accessible to 
> the actual installation of Finale.
> 
> Simple solution, do I hear you say?  Just copy MusicXML folder with 
> Dolet7.fxt in it to the Plug-ins folder of the actual installation of 
> Finale26.  I beat you to that!  I already did that.
> 
> Then I ran Finale26.  In the Plug-ins submenu there is a very nice MusicXML 
> listing with a triangle indicating a sub-menu, which is where I would expect 
> to find the Dolet7 plugin listed.  All the other plug-ins which installed 
> with the program show up just perfectly, but when I click on the triangle to 
> open the MusicXML submenu, nothing happens.  It just won't open any submenu, 
> empty or not.  So I have no access to Dolet7 other than the "lite" version 
> which is listed in the File/Export and File/Import dialogs.
> 
> I have tried moving the entire Dolet7 folder to the Program Files \ MakeMusic 
> folder, with no luck.
> 
> I can't leave Dolet7 in the Program Files (x86) folder because I can't have 
> Finale26 point to more than one plug-ins folder (which is peculiar because I 
> have other programs where there are options for things like "auxiliary 
> plug-ins folder" so they can be placed in several different locations if I 
> wish).
> 
> Thus I would love some suggestions so that I can actually have Dolet7 appear 
> in my plug-ins menu and be able to use the complete version.
> 
> And perhaps someone could also explain why (since MakeMusic owns Finale and 
> also owns MusicXML and the Dolet plug-ins) they don't just build the full 
> version into the program itself?  Why do we need to install a second version 
> and go through the plug-ins menu?  It's not as if it's a huge file size and 
> by installing only the "light" version they're saving us disk space!
> 
> But mostly I'd just love some suggestions about how to actually get the full 
> Dolet7 version working in Finale26 for Windows.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

I have downloaded and installed Finale 26 (Windows), and at the same 
time I have downloaded and installed the latest version of Dolet for 
Finale (ver7.2).


Curiously, even though the installation instructions for Dolet tells me 
that I will be able to select where it will install, the actual 
installation gave me no choice at all and automatically installed it in 
the Program Files (x86) \ MakeMusic \ Dolet 7 for Finale folder.  And it 
created another folder called Program Files (x86) \ MakeMusic \ Finale \ 
26 \ Plug-ins \ MusicXML where it placed the Dolet7.fxt plugin.


Unfortunately, my Finale 26 installation is in the Program Files \ 
MakeMusic \ Finale \ 26 folder, so the placement of the plug-in is not 
accessible to the actual installation of Finale.


Simple solution, do I hear you say?  Just copy MusicXML folder with 
Dolet7.fxt in it to the Plug-ins folder of the actual installation of 
Finale26.  I beat you to that!  I already did that.


Then I ran Finale26.  In the Plug-ins submenu there is a very nice 
MusicXML listing with a triangle indicating a sub-menu, which is where I 
would expect to find the Dolet7 plugin listed.  All the other plug-ins 
which installed with the program show up just perfectly, but when I 
click on the triangle to open the MusicXML submenu, nothing happens.  It 
just won't open any submenu, empty or not.  So I have no access to 
Dolet7 other than the "lite" version which is listed in the File/Export 
and File/Import dialogs.


I have tried moving the entire Dolet7 folder to the Program Files \ 
MakeMusic folder, with no luck.


I can't leave Dolet7 in the Program Files (x86) folder because I can't 
have Finale26 point to more than one plug-ins folder (which is peculiar 
because I have other programs where there are options for things like 
"auxiliary plug-ins folder" so they can be placed in several different 
locations if I wish).


Thus I would love some suggestions so that I can actually have Dolet7 
appear in my plug-ins menu and be able to use the complete version.


And perhaps someone could also explain why (since MakeMusic owns Finale 
and also owns MusicXML and the Dolet plug-ins) they don't just build the 
full version into the program itself?  Why do we need to install a 
second version and go through the plug-ins menu?  It's not as if it's a 
huge file size and by installing only the "light" version they're saving 
us disk space!


But mostly I'd just love some suggestions about how to actually get the 
full Dolet7 version working in Finale26 for Windows.


Thanks!

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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Giovanni Andreani]

Thank you for the tip, quite important by the way. I, personally, consider a 
transitional period - when upgrading - for which I maintain the version prior 
to the latest installed one.






Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.com
www.ga-music.com




> On 10 Oct 2018, at 22:29, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
> On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>> It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.
>> It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to collision 
>> avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets the eye, but 
>> this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.
>> I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately, which 
>> already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.
>> I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades or 
>> using the demo version.
> 
> Second observation -- Fin26 will automatically remove Fin25 and install Fin26 
> if we aren't careful to read all the fine print in the installation dialog 
> boxes!  There is a dialogue labeled "Uninstall Finale 25" which has a 
> checkbox to uninstall Fin25, which comes checked by default (wrong decision 
> by the developers in my opinion), so if we're not careful to UNcheck that 
> box, we'll lose our Fin25 installation. That may be unimportant for some who 
> will simply remove older versions and use the newest one, but with all the 
> upgrading troubles moving our data files from previous versions up to the 
> most recent Finale versions, I'm keeping most of my Finale versions installed.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Steve Parker]

Thanks for the commentary, David. 

> On 10 Oct 2018, at 21:29, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>> It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.
>> It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to collision 
>> avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets the eye, but 
>> this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.
>> I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately, which 
>> already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.
>> I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades or 
>> using the demo version.
> 
> Second observation -- Fin26 will automatically remove Fin25 and install Fin26 
> if we aren't careful to read all the fine print in the installation dialog 
> boxes!  There is a dialogue labeled "Uninstall Finale 25" which has a 
> checkbox to uninstall Fin25, which comes checked by default (wrong decision 
> by the developers in my opinion), so if we're not careful to UNcheck that 
> box, we'll lose our Fin25 installation. That may be unimportant for some who 
> will simply remove older versions and use the newest one, but with all the 
> upgrading troubles moving our data files from previous versions up to the 
> most recent Finale versions, I'm keeping most of my Finale versions installed.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Robert Patterson]

The main enhancements are stacked articulations and automatic stem length
for tremolos. Beyond these I am hoping that Finale 26 will include further
enhancements in dot releases. We'll see.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:27 PM David H. Bailey 
wrote:

> On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> > It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.
> >
> > It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to
> > collision avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets
> > the eye, but this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.
> >
> > I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately,
> > which already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.
> >
> > I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades
> > or using the demo version.
> >
> >
>
> My first observation -- it takes a heck of a long time to install the
> install program!  Now it's finally ready to actually run the
> installation program.  Sheesh!
>
>
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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:

It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.

It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to 
collision avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets 
the eye, but this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.


I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately, 
which already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.


I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades 
or using the demo version.




Second observation -- Fin26 will automatically remove Fin25 and install 
Fin26 if we aren't careful to read all the fine print in the 
installation dialog boxes!  There is a dialogue labeled "Uninstall 
Finale 25" which has a checkbox to uninstall Fin25, which comes checked 
by default (wrong decision by the developers in my opinion), so if we're 
not careful to UNcheck that box, we'll lose our Fin25 installation. 
That may be unimportant for some who will simply remove older versions 
and use the newest one, but with all the upgrading troubles moving our 
data files from previous versions up to the most recent Finale versions, 
I'm keeping most of my Finale versions installed.



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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:

It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.

It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to 
collision avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets 
the eye, but this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.


I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately, 
which already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.


I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades 
or using the demo version.





My first observation -- it takes a heck of a long time to install the 
install program!  Now it's finally ready to actually run the 
installation program.  Sheesh!



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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[David H. Bailey]

I bit the bullet and bought the Fin26 upgrade and am installing it right 
now.


I still can't wrap my head around Dorico's workflow (mostly because I 
haven't taken the time to learn the program from scratch) so I'm still 
using Sibelius (most of the time) and Finale (some of the time, often 
just to help my wife out).


As I get into Fin26 I'll post my opinions and observations.

David H. Bailey

On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:

It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.

It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to 
collision avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets 
the eye, but this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.


I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately, 
which already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.


I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades 
or using the demo version.



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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Steve Parker]

Also interested in this. I’m still on 14.5, but also doing most work in Dorico. 

Steve P. 

> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:54, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> It officially launched today at an upgrade price of $150.
> 
> It seems that the upgrade mainly consists of a few improvements to collision 
> avoidance.  Perhaps there is much more than immediately meets the eye, but 
> this seems like a rather thin upgrade for $150.
> 
> I may upgrade, but I have been doing most of my work in Dorico lately, which 
> already does 10x more automatic collision avoidance than Finale.
> 
> I'd appreciate hearing about any experience from people doing upgrades or 
> using the demo version.
> 
> 
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