I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is!
I still don't understand why. If you want the pitch to line up with midi entry
then a C score seems the way to go, rather than audio a tone or a fifth etc.
wrong.
I also mostly don't use a midi keyboard for entry, just the
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote:
I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is!
No one on this list wants to use it the way it is. Some argue that others
may. All of us want a new option.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
I thought that James and Darcy wanted to use it as is.
Steve P.
On 8 Jan 2011, at 14:57, Raymond Horton wrote:
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk
wrote:
I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it
is!
No one on this list wants to use
Steve,
I'm sure you meant that in the reverse. Pressing a C into an transposed alto
sax part would sound as an Eb. You must have meant input A, hear C. Am I right?
Because what you ask for is easily obtained by just turning on Display In
Concert Pitch, then turning it off once input is done.
On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 9:57 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote:
I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is!
No one on this list wants to use it the way it is. Some argue that others
may.
Hi Christopher,
you are of course correct. I want to hear a C if I input an A..
Steve P.
On 8 Jan 2011, at 15:31, Christopher Smith wrote:
Steve,
I'm sure you meant that in the reverse. Pressing a C into an
transposed alto sax part would sound as an Eb. You must have meant
input A, hear
So, all options would be good!
I'll try to explain the problem as it manifests for me:
Sometimes I'll enter say some violin, then switch to Bb Clarinet,
enter a D written, hear a D concert, automatically delete the D
written and replace with a C written, hear the correct pitch (concert
C),
All of us want an OPTION on transposed Speedy entry. No one is asking to
take the present behavior away.
While on the subject of options, I'd like to make any options like this
switchable: semi-permanently.
What I'm thinking of is this: in the playback controls window, one has the
option to
On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 11:12 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
While on the subject of options, I'd like to make any options like this
switchable: semi-permanently.
What I'm thinking of is this: in the playback controls window, one has the
option to Always start playback at the beginning,
On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 11:12 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
All of us want an OPTION on transposed Speedy entry. No one is asking to
take the present behavior away.
I'm afraid that if I don't say it, it might be taken away, like so many other
things I came to count on. MakeMusic says
What I was saying is not as it is now (to the best of my knowledge). While
displaying the transposed parts (not C score), I would be interested in
being able to play the SOUNDING pitch on the midi keyboard, not the
transposed pitch, but have the transposed pitch appear on the screen. And I
would
This seems to be yet a different option required!
To play an A, hear an A, but have a Bb Clarinet B appear.
I would be happy with this for MIDI entry I think, but for laptop
entry it would be kludgy (which is NOT what you're suggesting anyhow).
Steve P.
On 8 Jan 2011, at 17:56, James Cooper
Il 08/01/2011 2.45, Darcy James Argue ha scritto:
Hi Steve,
If your preferred behavior were the default, many people would also not understand why, when they play a
C on their MIDI keyboard when inputting into an alto sax staff, Finale instead sounds an
A. And, if they have the volume turned
I understand this but, for a lot of us, looking at scores with parts
transposed one does imagine the real sound.
Steve P.
On 8 Jan 2011, at 17:47, marcellon...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at director's scores with parts already transposed does not
give me to
me the real sound. My two cents,
On 8 Jan 2011 at 11:12, Raymond Horton wrote:
All of us want an OPTION on transposed Speedy entry.
Er, no, all of us don't want the option. I couldn't care less as I
never do the kinds of scores where it's an issue.
I have no objection to the option being added, but I don't actually
WANT the
On 8 Jan 2011 at 9:57, Raymond Horton wrote:
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk
wrote:
I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it
is!
No one on this list wants to use it the way it is. Some argue that
others may. All of us want a
: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
Hi David,
There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
transposed pitch for everything else.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http
But when I write in a transposed score I can hear the tone quality of the
instruments in that range without having to do a transposition as I write.
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From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:djar...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:38 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering
I'm with you there. I like knowing what the instrument is doing. I acquired
that skill at great pains in my late teens and early twenties working with a
pencil.
However, Finale should sound the correct concert pitch when you enter a
transposed note, instead of sounding the written pitch as if
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From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:djar...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:38 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
Hi David
9:38 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
Hi David,
There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
transposed pitch for everything else
in transposed scores while entering notes
Hi David,
There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
transposed pitch for everything else.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
Hi David,
There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
transposed pitch for everything else.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http
On 1/7/2011 8:45 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
If your preferred behavior were the default, many people would also not understand why, when they play a
C on their MIDI keyboard when inputting into an alto sax staff, Finale instead sounds an
A. And, if they have the volume turned up on their
We need to be clear about terminology here. A bug is behavior that is at
variance with the design of the system. The current keyboard behavior is
almost certainly the intended design of the system, so by definition it is
not a bug.
But that doesn't meant that an option wouldn't be a nice
Hi Aaron,
I said from the outset that I agree it should be an option! And certainly in a
setup without a MIDI keyboard, turning on that option makes tremendous sense.
However, I personally find it impossible to use Finale without a MIDI keyboard
and I suspect that the majority of Finale users
On 1/7/2011 10:05 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I said from the outset that I agree it should be an option!
Yes, I didn't mean for my post to sound like I was disagreeing with you
-- I was just giving more reasons to agree.
However, I personally find it impossible to use Finale without a
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Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:38 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
Hi David,
There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping
It would make more sense and be more useful to me if I could play (and
hear) the sounding pitch on the MIDI keyboard, and have the transposed
pitch appear on the staff.
--JMC
On Friday, January 7, 2011, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote:
On 1/7/2011 10:05 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I
I'd like that as an option too. I'd probably use that mode as my default.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:43 AM, James Cooper wrote:
It would make more sense and be more useful to me if I could play (and
hear) the sounding pitch on the MIDI
I have whinged about this in the past - it's a ** nuisance which means I
have to work from a score in C because the sounds Finale plays as I enter
notes in a transposing score put me off. I wish it were fixable. If you
find a way, please, please tell me.
Cheers,
Lawrence
--
I have the same problem, and no solution.
On 3 Jan 2011, at 22:44, Lawrence Yates wrote:
I have whinged about this in the past - it's a ** nuisance which means I
have to work from a score in C because the sounds Finale plays as I enter
notes in a transposing score put me off. I wish it
I work in a similar setup to yours, and I've been living with entered notes
sounding untransposed for years. Thankfully I don't have perfect pitch, or
it might be crippling instead of an annoyance. No way to fix that I know
of; switching to untransposed score to enter notes has its own set of
It is a pain!
Not crippling but a source of confusion if you take your eye off the
ball.
I can (kind of) understand it with MIDI keyboard entry, but it behaves
the same way using the laptop keyboard.
Steve P.
On 3 Jan 2011, at 23:02, Lee Actor wrote:
I work in a similar setup to yours, and
Hi David,
There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
transposed pitch for everything else.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 3 Jan 2011, at 3:36 PM, David Froom
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