Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-10 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Because of the confusion in the forewords where I state I use italics
for editorial addtions.

You know Brian's house style, is it ok in your opinion for me to
change these dynamics back to italics?

Thanks Dennis! I hope you are doing well!

Kim

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:37 AM, dc den...@free.fr wrote:
 Kim Patrick Clow écrit:

 I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that
 typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions.

 I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in
 an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part.

 Here's a screen shot of what I have now:

 http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg

 But here you obviously use brackets and not italics for editorial additions.
 So what prevents you from using italics for all the dynamics?

 Dennis




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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Jan 2011 at 17:50, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

 In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have
 'fort'
 
 Is it considered legitimate to use italic bold if I am trying to
 duplicate what the source has or just use simple italics? It's
 definitely easier bolded, and plus the standard dynamic fonts are
 bold.

This depends on the house style of the critical edition. The NMA, for 
instance, uses non-italic for original dynamics, and italic for 
editorial additions.

I don't know what is more common. I go for brackets, myself, as I 
think that's more clear than the italic/non-italic distinction. In 
the case of French music, I think I'd use fort for original 
dynamics and standard Finale f for editorial. That makes it pretty 
clear, don't you think?

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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that
typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions.

I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in
an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part.

Here's a screen shot of what I have now:

http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg


Thanks,

Kim
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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Jan 2011 at 18:25, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

 I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that
 typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions.
 
 I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in
 an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part.
 
 Here's a screen shot of what I have now:
 
 http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg

I don't know that I'd do it exactly that way, but it's crystal-clear 
what you're conveying, and that's the most important thing, seems to 
me. 

Tangentially, I think the failure of many editions to make it easy 
for an interpreter to easily distinguish editorial additions is one 
of the things that makes performers look down their noses at critical 
editions. If it were easier for them to make decisions because the 
information is clear upon first reading (as in your example here), 
perhaps they'd be more likely to evaluate the editorial decisions on 
their own.

On the other hand, an awful lot of performers are still of the don't 
make me think frame of mind, so maybe not.

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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Ryan Beard
Curious, why do you have the repeat sign on the other side of the time 
signature? 

On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Kim Patrick Clow telem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that
 typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions.
 
 I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in
 an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part.
 
 Here's a screen shot of what I have now:
 
 http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kim
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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Because it's within a sub-section of a multi-section movement, that's
not the start of a new movement, even though it looks like one.

Tempo di Minuetto - Allegro with a Da capo marking at the end to
repeat the first section up to the fermata.



On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Ryan Beard ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Curious, why do you have the repeat sign on the other side of the time 
 signature?

 On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Kim Patrick Clow telem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that
 typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions.

 I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in
 an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part.

 Here's a screen shot of what I have now:

 http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg


 Thanks,

 Kim
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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker

I would consider it legitimate, especially if duplicating a source.
Consistency is king.
It should have a full-stop after it as it is an abbreviation.

Steve P.

On 9 Jan 2011, at 22:50, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:


Good day:

In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have  
'fort'


Is it considered legitimate to use italic bold if I am trying to  
duplicate

what the source has or just use simple italics? It's definitely easier
bolded, and plus the standard dynamic fonts are bold.

Thanks
Kim
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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread John Howell

At 5:50 PM -0500 1/9/11, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

Good day:

In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have 'fort'

Is it considered legitimate to use italic bold if I am trying to duplicate
what the source has or just use simple italics? It's definitely easier
bolded, and plus the standard dynamic fonts are bold.

Thanks
Kim


Personal opinion only.  If you're trying for an Urtext, you should 
give what's in the original.  But that would extend to original clefs 
and everything else.  Otherwise, if there is no ambiguity, go ahead 
and use modern dynamic markings.


Where you might run into trouble would be with some English terms 
like drag and away, or something similar in dynamics.


John


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