Re: [Fink-devel] Are you running panther, and do you have no regard for your current Fink installation?

2003-10-10 Thread Benjamin Reed
Benjamin Reed wrote: Then I need you! =) I just posted instructions to my blog on how to do some panther testing with Fink. If you're interested in helping out, please follow the instructions here: http://ranger.befunk.com/blog/archives/000246.html Oh, and make sure you don't use apt-get!

[Fink-devel] freetype-1.3.1-6

2003-10-10 Thread LINDSAY!!!
I have been trying to install enlightenment and I continue to get an error message with freetype and freetype-hinting... ftdump.c:172:29: pasting . and glyph_object does not give a valid preprocessing token ftdump.c:182:31: pasting . and first_instance does not give a valid preprocessing token

Re: [Fink-devel] freetype-1.3.1-6

2003-10-10 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
Are you using gcc-3.3 to do this, as the sig says? I believe you have to build this with gcc-3.1. On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 12:11 PM, LINDSAY!!! wrote: I have been trying to install enlightenment and I continue to get an error message with freetype and freetype-hinting...

[Fink-devel] rsync updating and server subversion (svn) package

2003-10-10 Thread Leonard Muellner
Chris Schaffner suggested that I post to this list my experience today updatiing my fink installation with fink 0.14 and rsync. The .info files for the server version of subversion, which I wanted to try installing, are missing from my /sw/fink/dists/unstable tree (I'd updated a week or two ago).

[Fink-devel] Whereis doesn't work right with fink?

2003-10-10 Thread TM Lutas
I installed the make package. I typed whereis and it came up with /usr/bin/make. It turns out that sysctl user.cs_path doesn't search /sw/bin and /sw/sbin. I'd change it but I can't figure out how to do it (according to the man pages user.cs_path isn't writable by sysctl). What's the fix?

[Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread John Davidorff Pell
I've noticed that there are a few patches out there that disable fink's need to be root, but they all have drawbacks, like dpkg needs to be root. I've noticed that many of the developers have repeatedly dismissed it and have not even looked into if it would be easy to do. I went through the

Re: [Fink-devel] rsync updating and server subversion (svn) package

2003-10-10 Thread David R. Morrison
Do you have unstable/crypto and unstable/main in the Trees line in /sw/etc/fink.conf ? The new rsync method only updates the trees which are mentioned in your conf file. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Benjamin Reed
John Davidorff Pell wrote: I've noticed that there are a few patches out there that disable fink's need to be root, but they all have drawbacks, like dpkg needs to be root. I've noticed that many of the developers have repeatedly dismissed it and have not even looked into if it would be easy

Re: [Fink-devel] Whereis doesn't work right with fink?

2003-10-10 Thread Martin Costabel
TM Lutas wrote: What's the fix? Simple: Don't use whereis. Use where (with tcsh) or type -a (with bash). -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread John Davidorff Pell
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 3:48 pm, David R. Morrison wrote: Sure, here's some feedback. First, let's examine where root is actually needed in fink. We certainly don't need to be root to run make on a package. Since fink directs make install to a temporary installation directory, we

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 06:48 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Since fink directs make install to a temporary installation directory, we don't need to be root to run that either. Except when a package wants to chown a file. The tricky thing, though, is the last thing fink does when compiling

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread John Davidorff Pell
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 3:54 pm, Benjamin Reed wrote: John Davidorff Pell wrote: I've noticed that there are a few patches out there that disable fink's need to be root, but they all have drawbacks, like dpkg needs to be root. I've noticed that many of the developers have repeatedly

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Jerry Talkington
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 06:48:13PM -0400, David R. Morrison wrote: OK, but let's assume we solve that problem. Then we'd be able to run the command fink build foo without being root. That's probably a good thing, for a number of reasons. What about fink install foo though? Here we get

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Jerry Talkington
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 06:54:28PM -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote: There are packages that make suid files, there are packages that initialize things on installation, I'm sure there are other things that happen that we don't know about. There's no framework for gracefully handling those

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread John Davidorff Pell
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 4:10 pm, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 06:48 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Since fink directs make install to a temporary installation directory, we don't need to be root to run that either. Except when a package wants to chown a file. The

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread David R. Morrison
I have to disagree about the timing of when root is supposed to be invoked. I issue a command to build a package which will take an hour... I come back two hours later, only to find that it's been waiting for the past hour for me to enter my password? Not a good user experience. That's why Fink

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Kaben Nanlohy
Suppose fink packages optionally use fields 'BuildRequiresRoot' or 'InstallRequiresRoot'? Then fink could choose to require running as root, and inform the user at the start when building / installing a package requires root privs. (Depend checks would determine whether any depends require root

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Kaben Nanlohy
NetBSD, for example, becomes root at the install phase, requesting a password at that time, and can be rigged to use su or sudo. So this is not unheard-of in package managers (and can be very convenient). --- This SF.net email is sponsored

[Fink-devel] Dpkg...

2003-10-10 Thread John Davidorff Pell
I've got fink 100% working with the 'fink' user, UID 240, created manually, except one minor part... dpkg -i /test/fink/dists/local/bootstrap/binary-darwin-powerpc/ fink_0.14.0.cvs-20031010.2353_darwin-powerpc.deb dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege ### execution of dpkg

Re: [Fink-devel] Some issues trying to compile qcad-2.0.0.8

2003-10-10 Thread Jeremy Higgs
Thanks guys, I managed to comment out the lines previously mentioned, and it compiled OK. I just have to figure out what files to install now! (No install script... :( ) On 07/10/2003, at 9:22 PM, kinako wrote: Hi, On 2003.10.7, at 20:12 Asia/Tokyo, Benjamin Reed wrote: Do you have Qt/Mac

[Fink-devel] emacs21-nox build problem (10.2-gcc3.3)

2003-10-10 Thread Kaben Nanlohy
I suppose 'fink install emacs21-nox' failed during functional test...? A log of the install attempt is posted at http://www.stochastic.net/~kaben/for_fink/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread Alexander Strange
On Oct 10, 2003, at 6:48 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Sure, here's some feedback. First, let's examine where root is actually needed in fink. We certainly don't need to be root to run make on a package. Since fink directs make install to a temporary installation directory, we don't need to be