[Fink-devel] 10.2-gcc3.3 : tar confilcts with gettext-bin

2003-10-12 Thread Martin Costabel
In my continuing rebuild of 10.2-gcc3.3, I came across the following crash: Unpacking gettext-bin (from .../gettext-bin_0.10.40-17_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/base/gettext-bin_0.10.40-17_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install): trying

Re: [Fink-devel] 10.2-gcc3.3 vs 10.3 re X11 and freetype2

2003-10-12 Thread Benjamin Reed
Martin Costabel wrote: The question is whether this could be used as an opportunity to scrap Fink's freetype2 packages. I believe it is. We should dump freetype2 altogether, but we can't just provide freetype2 from the xfree86 packages. Currently, just to get people testing the panther tree,

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #1188 - 12 msgs

2003-10-12 Thread Chris Dolan
On Saturday, October 11, 2003, at 11:51 PM, Kaben Nanlohy wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Benjamin Reed wrote: User-mode fink is useful to a very small part of the fink population, Not so. At work I lack root on many of the *nix boxes I use, so I regularly build and install the stuff I need in

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #1188 - 12 msgs

2003-10-12 Thread Benjamin Reed
Chris Dolan wrote: On Saturday, October 11, 2003, at 11:51 PM, Kaben Nanlohy wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Benjamin Reed wrote: User-mode fink is useful to a very small part of the fink population, Not so. At work I lack root on many of the *nix boxes I use, so I regularly build and install the

Re: [Fink-devel] XDarwin broken on 10.2-gcc3.3?

2003-10-12 Thread Koen van der Drift
Hi, Last week I reported that Xdarwin didn't work anymore after the gcc3.3 and 10.2.8 update. This morning after fink selfupdate xfree86 was reinstalled (revision 14), but it still does not work :( Here are some observations: If I double click the XDarwin icon, I see the gray screen for a

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #1188 - 12 msgs

2003-10-12 Thread Chris Dolan
Very well stated, Benjamin. I agree with you completely. Chris On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 11:49 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Chris Dolan wrote: I have not yet heard anyone mention the best reason for user-mode fink: trust problems. Do you really want to be running a ton of shell scripts

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #1188 - 12 msgs

2003-10-12 Thread John Davidorff Pell
While I agree with most of what you say, I feel that it is important to look at any structural changes to fink that could be done now to take advantage of the upcoming release. If we figure out exactly what has to be root and what doesn't and move in the direction of widening the distinction

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #1188 - 12 msgs

2003-10-12 Thread David R. Morrison
Our goal is to switch Fink to Panther on October 24 or very shortly thereafter. We've been planning the necessary changes, and working to implement them, for months. We still have a lot to do, and are likely to miss the release date. As Ben said, we'll consider other major changes after we're

Re: [Fink-devel] User mode Fink

2003-10-12 Thread John Davidorff Pell
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 6:25 pm, Greg Novak wrote: --- Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not yet heard anyone mention the best reason for user-mode fink: trust problems. Do you really want to be running a ton of shell scripts and makefiles as root? Not me. I'd rather compile

Re: [Fink-devel] User mode Fink

2003-10-12 Thread Chris Dolan
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Greg Novak wrote: --- Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not yet heard anyone mention the best reason for user-mode fink: trust problems. Do you really want to be running a ton of shell scripts and makefiles as root? Not me. I'd rather

Re: [Fink-devel] User mode Fink

2003-10-12 Thread John Davidorff Pell
Absolutely! On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 8:03 pm, Chris Dolan wrote: On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Greg Novak wrote: --- Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not yet heard anyone mention the best reason for user-mode fink: trust problems. Do you really want to be