Re: [Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Macks
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 03:53:47PM -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote: > Jack Howarth wrote: > | Benjamin, > | If it is a 10.5-gcc-4.2 branch, I would assume by default it > | would be an opt in. Besides, I would surprised if Apple doesn't switch > | the default compiler to gcc-4.2 for Snow Leopard so

Re: [Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Martin Costabel wrote: > Benjamin Reed wrote: >> [] >> As I'm not a compiler guru, I must be missing something. Is PPL >> something that is part of the GCC build? Googling "PPL" gives me a >> million false positives. > > And "fink apropos ppl" shows nothing called "ppl". > What *is* ppl? > htt

Re: [Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Costabel
Benjamin Reed wrote: >[] > As I'm not a compiler guru, I must be missing something. Is PPL > something that is part of the GCC build? Googling "PPL" gives me a > million false positives. And "fink apropos ppl" shows nothing called "ppl". What *is* ppl? -- Martin -

Re: [Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jack Howarth wrote: |I also recall having one of my bug reports against code | generation of the Apple gcc 4.0.1 compiler closed with a | comment that the compiler was depreciated or such. I agree | that we can just build ppl > 0.9 with gcc-4.2 bu

Re: [Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Jack Howarth
Benjamin, The current Xcode 3.1.1 DP1 can't compile the ppl cvs. The response from the ppl developer was... --- Jack Howarth wrote: >The ppl cvs only builds with the newer Apple gcc-4.2 compiler > in Xcode 3.1. Under the default gcc 4

Re: [Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jack Howarth wrote: |We will have to give some serious consideration to | using Apple gcc-4.2 compiler from Xcode >= 3.1 shortly. | The ppl cvs which will become the next ppl release requires | gcc > 4.0.3 to build. This means that ppl > 0.9 will n

[Fink-devel] fink, gcc-4.2 and ppl > 0.9

2008-08-11 Thread Jack Howarth
We will have to give some serious consideration to using Apple gcc-4.2 compiler from Xcode >= 3.1 shortly. The ppl cvs which will become the next ppl release requires gcc > 4.0.3 to build. This means that ppl > 0.9 will no longer build against Apple's stock gcc 4.0.1 compiler. It does build fine

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-28 Thread David H.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Jim White wrote: | Martin Costabel wrote: | |> David R. Morrison wrote: |> |> [] |> |>>> (3) The problems with octave, singular-libfac and others that cannot |>>> be built with Apple's latest g++-3.3 are too fresh in the discussion |>>> to have to

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-28 Thread Jim White
Martin Costabel wrote: David R. Morrison wrote: [] (3) The problems with octave, singular-libfac and others that cannot be built with Apple's latest g++-3.3 are too fresh in the discussion to have to be recalled, but they are real and urgent problems that have to be solved. Telling people "Don't

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-27 Thread Martin Costabel
David R. Morrison wrote: [] (3) The problems with octave, singular-libfac and others that cannot be built with Apple's latest g++-3.3 are too fresh in the discussion to have to be recalled, but they are real and urgent problems that have to be solved. Telling people "Don't install Xcode-1.5 if y

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Peter O'Gorman
David R. Morrison wrote: Seems like a good case for a fink package, then. I am suddenly reminded of a GNU libtool bug report I got about a year ago and then completely forgot about (having, of course, promised to fix it). GNU gcc does not grok __private_extern__ and builds libstdc++ and libgcc

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread David R. Morrison
On Aug 26, 2004, at 4:20 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: [snip] This is not a discussion about philosophy or policy, but about how to deal with buggy software. Absolutely correct. Thanks for the detailed response. 3. The recent versions of gcc seem to be sufficiently binary compatible so that you can

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Jack Howarth wrote: Martin, Just a stab in the dark, but have you considered trying to rebuild octave with -fssa and -fssa-dce? Perhaps using the experimental dead code elimination will work around the missing symbols. In the test case from singular-libfac this doesn't change anything. -- Martin

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Jack Howarth
Martin, Just a stab in the dark, but have you considered trying to rebuild octave with -fssa and -fssa-dce? Perhaps using the experimental dead code elimination will work around the missing symbols. Jack --- SF.Net ema

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Jack Howarth wrote: Martin, Has anyone documented a few of these g++ problems and brought them up on the darwin-development mailing list at Apple? I have found that the Apple devtool programmers that monitor that list can often be quite helpful. At the very least, it will bring these problems t

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Jack Howarth
Martin, Has anyone documented a few of these g++ problems and brought them up on the darwin-development mailing list at Apple? I have found that the Apple devtool programmers that monitor that list can often be quite helpful. At the very least, it will bring these problems to their attention fo

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Martin Costabel wrote: [] (3) The problems with octave, singular-libfac and others that cannot be built with Apple's latest g++-3.3 are too fresh in the discussion to have to be recalled, but they are real and urgent problems that have to be solved. From having a quick look over the #fink logs,

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Daniel Macks wrote: [] I think we'd be setting ourselves up for a user support nightmare At least we would have to think of a system how to avoid this. I also tend to think (but I am not yet sure about this) that it would probably be a bad idea to completely replace (for building Fink packages) A

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-25 Thread Daniel Macks
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:24:58AM +0200, Max Horn wrote: > Am 25.08.2004 um 19:40 schrieb David R. Morrison: > > > >The troubles with g++ under XCode 1.5 and the lack of any quick > >response from Apple, combined with earlier incidents of an analogous > >nature, lead me to ask: would we be bette

Re: [Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-25 Thread Max Horn
Am 25.08.2004 um 19:40 schrieb David R. Morrison: The troubles with g++ under XCode 1.5 and the lack of any quick response from Apple, combined with earlier incidents of an analogous nature, lead me to ask: would we be better off with a fink gcc package in place of the Developer Tools? As I und

[Fink-devel] fink gcc?

2004-08-25 Thread David R. Morrison
The troubles with g++ under XCode 1.5 and the lack of any quick response from Apple, combined with earlier incidents of an analogous nature, lead me to ask: would we be better off with a fink gcc package in place of the Developer Tools? As I understand it, the Apple compiler team has been good