Only a small thing: When I type 'man fink.conf' I get:
mdoc warning: list open at EOF! A .Bl directive has no matching .El
Also, I think it would be nice to document 'fink list -o' (outdated)
and 'fink list -i' (installed) etc. in fink.man.
On Mittwoch, Januar 15, 2003, at 10:46 Uhr, Finlay D
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:47 AM, Max Horn wrote:
So what do you think? Is this still your stance:
At 23:28 Uhr +0900 15.01.2003, Peter O'Gorman wrote:
You are, of course correct with the compatibility versions, and I
think it is worth getting this upstream even if it breaks binary
> I really don't know, it would be nice if some others would pipe up...
Hi guys. I'm at a conference this week, using my few available Fink moments
for finishing up the 0.5.1 distribution. I'm sure that in a day or two I'll
be able to read this thread and comment in detail about the libtool prob
Folks,
dmalloc has proposed the following revised legal statement. He says that he
got no feedback about it although I don't remember having seen it before.
I personally do not think that a number of the clauses in the revised
statement are appropriate for Fink. Any other opinions?
-- Dave
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On Donnerstag, Jänner 16, 2003, at 01:40 Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:
Folks,
dmalloc has proposed the following revised legal statement. He says
that he
got no feedback about it although I don't remember having seen it
before.
Just to give an example of something in the new legal statement which needs
work: The statement says that downloads may be made for personal,
non-commercial use only. Actually, the Fink code itself is covered under
the GPL, which has NO clause about non-commercial use. All but a very
tiny number
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On Donnerstag, Jänner 16, 2003, at 02:27 Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:
Just to give an example of something in the new legal statement which
needs
work: The statement says that downloads may be made for personal,
non-commercial use onl
This is handled if you install the X11 for Mac OS X SDK; the SDK is
listed as a requirement in Fink's FAQ.
No it isn't.
Yes it is. From
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#apple-binary :
"[...] then install Apple's X11 and X11 SDK [...]"
Huh? No, the SDK package does not fi
Hello, I installed the latest Fink yesterday, the Apple X11 Server, the developer
toolkit and the free86 package. I want to insall Xemacs, which is listed on the Fink
site in the package list under Editors. However, now that I have everything set up
andready to go,! when I do 'fink list' the p
Yes, but the software we are creating is released under the GPL, and your
legal statement contradicts the GPL. Fink itself is GPL'd.
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Understand how to protect your customers personal
a fink selfupdate-cvs isn't possible at the moment because the sourceforge
CVS server is temporarily down.
A little patience, or doing something else in the meantime, is unfortunately
the best advice I have.
chaals (also waiting for CVS so I can install some stuff)
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Rick Taub
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On Donnerstag, Jänner 16, 2003, at 02:58 Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:
Yes, but the software we are creating is released under the GPL, and
your
legal statement contradicts the GPL. Fink itself is GPL'd.
I'll adjust that then.
At 8:35 Uhr +0100 16.01.2003, David wrote:
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Hello guys.
Inoticed that we use "pt" to determine which font size to display.
That might be problematic on some operating systems since point size
is not something that renders at the same resolution
Unfortunately, because anonymous CVS is down, you won't be able to get
new package descriptions for the source distro for the time being, and
xemacs isn't in the binary distro yet.
If you'd like, I can send you the .info and .patch files for xemacs and
its dependencies. I'd advocate putting them
At 7:47 Uhr -0600 16.01.2003, Dave Schroeder wrote:
This is handled if you install the X11 for Mac OS X SDK; the SDK
is listed as a requirement in Fink's FAQ.
No it isn't.
Yes it is. From
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#apple-binary :
"[...] then install Apple's X11 and
At 20:19 Uhr +0900 16.01.2003, Peter O'Gorman wrote:
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:47 AM, Max Horn wrote:
So what do you think? Is this still your stance:
At 23:28 Uhr +0900 15.01.2003, Peter O'Gorman wrote:
You are, of course correct with the compatibility versions, and I
think it is
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Why don't you just do it?
Because I really do not feel like triggering a flood of protest.
Changing the site "layout" is considered a pretty "big" step by me and
I really do not feel that settled within the project yet that people
would si
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Max Horn wrote:
>At 8:35 Uhr +0100 16.01.2003, David wrote:
>>Inoticed that we use "pt" to determine which font size to display.
>>That might be problematic on some operating systems since point size
>>is not something that renders at the same resolution on all screens
>>acros
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You are my man then. Would you accept looking over the Fink website,
its css and layout concerning usability and accessibility as your task?
I know you already offered yourself as a documentation writer but given
your past you'd be pretty darn
At 9:25 Uhr -0500 16.01.2003, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Max Horn wrote:
At 8:35 Uhr +0100 16.01.2003, David wrote:
Inoticed that we use "pt" to determine which font size to display.
That might be problematic on some operating systems since point size
is not something th
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, David wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Why don't you just do it?
>Because I really do not feel like triggering a flood of protest.
>Changing the site "layout" is considered a pretty "big" step by me and
>I really do not feel that settled within the project yet that people
>would simply accept
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, David wrote:
>
>You are my man then. Would you accept looking over the Fink website,
>its css and layout concerning usability and accessibility as your task?
>I know you already offered yourself as a documentation writer but given
>your past you'd be pretty darn perfect for th
At 9:38 Uhr -0500 16.01.2003, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, David wrote:
Why don't you just do it?
Because I really do not feel like triggering a flood of protest.
Changing the site "layout" is considered a pretty "big" step by me and
I really do not feel that settled
With an eye towards constructing an automated build system for the binary
distribution one of these days, I'd like to propose a new field for fink
.info files:
BinaryDistribution: True/False or Yes/No
This field would only be consulted if the package is labeled
License: Restrictive
and in that
On Donnerstag, Januar 16, 2003, at 04:36 Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:
BinaryDistribution: True/False or Yes/No
Sounds good. I would go for True/False and default to False.
This field would only be consulted if the package is labeled
License: Restrictive
and in that case, it would indicate
Rick Taube wrote:
Hello, I installed the latest Fink yesterday, the Apple X11 Server, the developer toolkit and the free86 package. I want to insall Xemacs, which is listed on the Fink site in the package list under Editors. However, now that I have everything set up andready to go,! when I do 'f
I had ccp4 installed, until recently, on my machine.
In tracking down why man pages would not display, I discovered the
following:
In system-tetex.csh:
set path = ( $path /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current )
setenv MANPATH /sw/share/xtal/ccp4-4.2.2/man:/usr/man:/usr/local/teTeX/ma
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"David R. Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With an eye towards constructing an automated build system for the binary
> distribution one of these days, I'd like to propose a new field for fink
> .info files:
>
> BinaryDistribution: True/False or
I am currently updating the ccp4 package, a revised version will be
available when cvs returns.
-Ben
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 08:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had ccp4 installed, until recently, on my machine.
In tracking down why man pages would not display, I discovered the
fo
At 10:36 Uhr -0500 16.01.2003, David R. Morrison wrote:
With an eye towards constructing an automated build system for the binary
distribution one of these days, I'd like to propose a new field for fink
.info files:
BinaryDistribution: True/False or Yes/No
This field would only be consulted if t
I have been writing pre, post, update, remove scripts over the last
week. It would be wonderful to be able to use the shells here
document in these scripts. Could Finks here document delimiter be
changed in the near future?
Best Regards
-Dustin
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It is relatively rare that such scripts are needed. Can you show an
example where it would be useful?
btw, i noticed that you use ranlib in the uw-imapd-c PostInstScript. I
dont think that will work, since the PostInstScript is ran by users who
install from binary who may not have the developer
Just wondering why the mailing list archives on
http://fink.sourceforge.net/lists/index.php point to
www.mail-archive.com rather than SourceForge's mailing list archive?
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Understand
Hi Max.
I've just gone through this process of figuring out which things to put
on the exclude list for the third time. It is really painful, with the
current tools.
The maker of the bindist doesn't check each individual package to make sure
that the license was correctly assigned, right? We le
At 14:33 Uhr -0500 16.01.2003, David R. Morrison wrote:
Hi Max.
I've just gone through this process of figuring out which things to put
on the exclude list for the third time. It is really painful, with the
current tools.
Yes, but that "just" means the tools have to become better. They
would
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Dustin Sias wrote:
Here is an example. this change would make it easy to change user,
group, startup scripts, etc.. I like the /Library/StartupItems method.
I would also like the package to create, update, delete user, group
information. This is m
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 10:41 AM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:
Just wondering why the mailing list archives on
http://fink.sourceforge.net/lists/index.php point to
www.mail-archive.com rather than SourceForge's mailing list archive?
Because sf's mailing list archives suck?
Though they re
OK, suppose we just introduce the license category "Distributible", and in
the docs explain that Distributible covers non-open source licenses which
allow Fink to distribute binaries.
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Looks like I need more quotation marks in the MATHPATH setting in
system-tetex. It is supposed to read your current MANPATH, but it looks
like instead, it read the MANPATH which was valid at the moment you
compiled the package.
-- Dave
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On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 12:00 PM, Max Horn wrote:
Hrm, right as well. So why not split the Restrictive license class
into two:
Restrictive
RestrictiveButDistributable
(well, obviously with better names). That would seem more logical to
me than a seperate field.
Sounds good to me
On the ranlab issue, this came up in one of my packages as well, and my
solution was to test for the presence of ranlib before invoking it.
The idea is, any user without the Developer Tools installed won't be
linking against this library anyway, so it is harmless that ranlib was
not run for them.
Hi,
I just subitted an upated package for octave-forge to the tracker.
There is one part that I don't particularly like and would like some
feedback on:
Octave-forge is a set of extensions to octave and must have its path
added to octave's search path. There is a global startup script in
/sw/sh
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Dustin Sias wrote:
Here is an example. this change would make it easy to change user,
group, startup scripts, etc.. I like the /Library/StartupItems
method. I would also like the package to create, update, delete
user, group information. This is mo
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Max Horn wrote:
I definitly do *not* want to support v3 or v4 browsers in the sense
that I care whether the page looks good to them or not. Fifth
generation it is. lynx/links will just not display the CSS, and only
render the HTML, which is perfectly
msek has vanished, anyone want to take the partial gnome2 packages in
his experimental directory? We continue to get requests for them.
People are even bashing fink because it doesn't have gnome 2. I agree,
it is kinda silly.
For that matter, anyone want to take over all of msek's packages?
Do
At 19:13 Uhr -0800 16.01.2003, Ben Hines wrote:
msek has vanished, anyone want to take the partial gnome2 packages
in his experimental directory? We continue to get requests for them.
People are even bashing fink because it doesn't have gnome 2. I
agree, it is kinda silly.
For that matter, any
A quick google search revealed this about Masanori (at least I assume
it's him in all cases, seems likely, though. Information in there is
probably outdated, plus my Japanase is rather nonexistant, so I don't
know if it is of any help :-/
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA008857/ ->
[EMAIL PRO
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 07:34 PM, Max Horn wrote:
At 19:13 Uhr -0800 16.01.2003, Ben Hines wrote:
msek has vanished, anyone want to take the partial gnome2 packages in
his experimental directory? We continue to get requests for them.
People are even bashing fink because it doesn't
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 07:44 PM, Max Horn wrote:
A quick google search revealed this about Masanori (at least I assume it's him in all cases, seems likely, though. Information in there is probably outdated, plus my Japanase is rather nonexistant, so I don't know if it is of any help :-
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 07:53 PM, Ben Hines wrote:
Ho ho ho, wait a moment, not so fast. msek has "vanished" for one
month (to be precise, his last CVS commit was on Dec 12th), ok, but
then I was absent for almost a month, too. Maybe he's just sick or on
a longer vacation or whateve
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to compile the newest version of net-snmp (5.0.7) for MacOS
X 10.2.3, but am having the same problem as with the previous version:
gcc -I../../include -I../../include -I. -I../.. -I. -I./../..
-I./../../snmplib -I./.. -I.. -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -g -O2
-Ddarwin6
Well... as a precaution, it might be worthwhile compiling a database of
alternate email addresses and phone numbers for the Fink developers
(keeping it all private, of course), as long as they're OK with that.
That way, if a developer does 'vanish', other developers (Max, David
Morrison, etc et
For the life of me I cannot figure out why fink won't update from CVS,
unless its a problem at sourceforge. It prints the following when I run
fink selfupdate-cvs (after the questions about 1st time config):
cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.sourceforge.net:2401 failed:
Operation timed out
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