Re: [Fink-devel] symlink in gtk+ package

2002-06-12 Thread Dave Vasilevsky

Masanori Sekino wrote:
gtk+ (=1.2.10-10) package provides two symlinks, `gdk - gtk-1.2/gdk' 
and `gtk - gtk-1.2/gtk'. But they break many GNOME2 package's 
compilation, so I'd like to remove them.

Masanori,

I've been working on Gnome 2 as well, so that I could get Nautilus working. I'm 
running into this same problem with libbonoboui2. The Gnome 2 packages all add 
'-I/sw/include/gtk-2.0 -I/sw/lib/gtk-2.0/include', so theoretically '#include 
gtk/gtk.h' should work.

However, pangoxft needs freetype2, and `freetype-config --cflags` has -I/sw/include in 
it. The .pc (pkgconfig) file for libgnomecanvas2 puts pango before gtk+-2.0 in the 
Depends: field, so `pkg-config --cflags libgnomecanvas-2.0` puts -I/sw/include before 
-I/sw/include/gtk-2.0. This makes gtk/gtk.h resolve to /sw/include/gtk-1.2/gtk.h  
instead of the gtk 2.0 version, and that's where the problem lies.

There are several possible fixes:

1) Patch the libgnomecanvas2 .pc file so that gtk+-2.0 is at the front. This is an 
easy fix, and I have verified that this puts -I/sw/include/gtk-2.0 before 
-I/sw/include in libgnomecanvas's cflags, but there is no guarantee that other 
packages won't also put pango first in the Depends field.

2) Prevent -I/sw/include from being added to pango's cflags. This is also easy, and is 
great because it will ensure that -I/sw/include will never be placed before 
-I/sw/include/gtk-2.0. However, this may break packages that use NoSetCPPFLAGS if they 
still need to include stuff from /sw/include.

3) Remove the /sw/include/gtk symlink. This is not so easy, it could cause many 
problems, but may be necessary.


By the way, here are the Gnome 2 packages I have finished (well at least they compile) 
or am working on:

Updated:
bonobo-activation2-1.0.0
gconf2-1.1.11
gnome-vfs2(-ssl)-1.9.17
libbonobo2-2.0.0
libglade2-2.0.0
libgnomecanvas2-2.0.0
linc1-0.5.0
orbit2-2.4.0

New:
eel2-0.2.27
gail15-0.15.1
libbonoboui2-2.0.0
libgnome2-2.0.0
libgnomeui2-2.0.0
nautilus-1.1.19

A couple of these packages use a very effective fix I came up with to solve the 
problems some packages have when upgraded. It stops programs from linking to 
already-installed versions of a library, instead of the upgraded version in 
/sw/src/%n/.

Please contact me so we can coordinate our efforts.

Dave Vasilevsky

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Re: [Fink-devel] gcc3

2002-06-12 Thread Jean-François Mertens

Some more :

Build correctly (apparently..):
openjade-1.3.1-1 libxml2-2.4.22-2 glib-1.2.10-7 guile-1.4-4 
scrollkeeper-0.2-7 gnome-print-0.36-1 gnome-games-1.4.0.4-2 
pdksh-5.2.14-2 scsh-0.5.3-1 db4-4.0.14-7 popt-1.6.2-2 gnet-1.1.2-1 
launch-1.0a9-2 pspell-.12.2-1 astyle-1.15.3-1 openldap-ssl-2.0.23-3 
cpio-2.4.2-3 dict-1.5.5-2 libwww-5.3.2-3 bc-1.06-1 hugs-1998.200102-3 
hx-0.1.39-5 hxd-0.1.39-2 indent-2.2.6-1 ispell-3.2.06-2 libogg-1.0rc3-3 
libpcap-0.6.2-5 libvorbis-1.0rc3-3 mutt-ssl-1.3.99i-1 ncftp-3.1.3-1 
netcat-1.10-4 pine-ssl-4.44-2 pth-1.4.0-6 recode-3.6-6 slang-1.4.5-3 
less-358-4 links-ssl-0.96-3 lynx-ssl-2.8.4-2 hfsutils-3.2.6-1 
python-fchksum-1.6.1-1 intltool-0.18-2 linc1-0.1.21-2 libidl2-0.7.4-3 
apache-1.3.23-1 (with the correction in the bug tracker) 
libproplist-0.10.1-4 rlpr-2.04-3 mysql-3.23.49-2 hermes-1.3.2-2 
libpng3-1.2.1-2 libmpeg-1.3.1-6 libmikmod-3.1.9-3 hexcurse-1.54-1 
metapixel-0.7-2 libfame-0.8.10-1 gnuplot-3.8h.0-7 compress-zlib-
pm-1.16-1 date-manip-pm-5.40-2 data-showtable-pm-3.3-1 cvs2cl-2.38-1 
lrzsz-0.12.20-1 zssh-1.4-2 yap-4.3.19-1 yafc-0.7.9-1 xml-writer-pm-0.4-2 
xml-parser-pm-2.30-2 xml-simple-pm-1.05-2 xml-regexp-pm-0.03-2 
xdelta-1.1.3-1 openurl-20010728-1 gc-6.0-4 w3m-ssl-0.2.5.1-1 w3m-
el-1.2.4-1 mpack-1.5-2 base64-1.3-1 mime-base64-pm-2.12-2 memoize-
pm-0.66-2 lzo-1.07-3 logcheck-1.1.1-2 uri-pm-1.18-1 unrtf-0.18.1-1 
tree-1.3-2 tmake-1.7-2 tie-ixhash-pm-1.21-2 tftp-hpa-0.26-1 
term-readline-pm-0.9908-1 term-progressbar-pm-1.0-2 term-readkey-
pm-2.18-1 sha-pm-1.2-1 libole2-0.2.4-2 libnet-1.0.2a-2 libnet-pm-1.09-2 
libiodbc-2.50.3-6 tcptraceroute-1.2-2 tcpflow-0.20-1 smpeg-0.4.4-5 
sdl-mixer-1.2.4-2 dnstracer-1.5-1 calcoo-1.3.9-1

Failures:
orbit2-2.3.108-2 ( install_name error) prcs-1.3.1-1 aspell-.33.7.1-2 
plotutils-2.4.1-2 cyrus-sasl-1.5.27-2 a2ps-4.12-4 libghttp-1.0.9-3 
librep-0.14-6 (install_name error) libsigc++-1.0.4-2 (undefined symbols)
sendfile : autoconf error... (autoconf25 is installed, I'll retry once 
without, or with autoconf)

Finally, correction about yesterday:

xfree86-rootless does NOT build correctly: gets to the end, but there is 
a problem
(twice) with libGLU :
+ /usr/bin/cc -o ./libGLU.1.3.dylib~ -dynamiclib -install_name 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.1.dylib -current_version 1.3 
-compatibility_version 1.3 libutil/error.o libutil/glue.o 
libutil/mipmap.o libutil/project.o libutil/quad.o
...
libnurbs/nurbtess/searchTree.o -L../../exports/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
-lXext -lX11 -lGL
ld: Undefined symbols:
__ZTVN10__cxxabiv117__class_type_infoE
__ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
__ZTVN10__cxxabiv121__vmi_class_type_infoE
___gxx_personality_v0
___cxa_pure_virtual
__ZdaPv
__Znam
__ZdlPv
__Znwm
__ZSt9terminatev
/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed

(No other errors apparently, but for packaging problem at the end.)

JF Mertens


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[Fink-devel] Error intalling Fink on Jaguar

2002-06-12 Thread Pascal Beaujeant

fink selfupdate and the compiling process failed with this error :

Building program /sw/src/apt-0.5.4-3/apt-0.5.4/bin/apt-cache
ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _timegm
/sw/src/apt-0.5.4-3/apt-0.5.4/bin/libapt-pkg.dylib(strutl.opic) definition of _timegm
/usr/lib/libSystem.dylib(localtime.So) definition of _timegm
ld: Undefined symbols:
__ZTIN13pkgSrcRecords6ParserE
__ZTI9pkgSystem
make[2]: *** [/sw/src/apt-0.5.4-3/apt-0.5.4/bin/apt-cache] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
###  failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling apt-0.5.4-3 failed


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Re: [Fink-devel] Error intalling Fink on Jaguar

2002-06-12 Thread David R. Morrison

Thanks for the report.  We knew about the apt problem, and a number of
others, and we're working on getting Fink ready for Jaguar.  You might
want to look at the web page

  http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/porting/preparing.php

  -- Dave

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RE: [Fink-devel] gcc3

2002-06-12 Thread Hester, Jeffrey W.

I didn't have the same success with glib...

creating libgmodule.la
(cd .libs  rm -f libgmodule.la  ln -s ../libgmodule.la 
libgmodule.la)
/sw/src/glib-1.2.10-7/glib-1.2.10/gmodule/.libs
/bin/sh ../libtool 
--mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I..
-I../gmodule-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GModule\   -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include
-g -O2 -Wall  -c libgplugin_a.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../gmodule 
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GModule\
-no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -g -O2 -Wall -c libgplugin_a.c  -fno-common
-DPIC -o libgplugin_a.lo
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall  -L/sw/lib -o
libgplugin_a.la -rpath /sw/lib -avoid-version -module libgplugin_a.lo -ldl  
rm -fr 
.libs/libgplugin_a.la .libs/libgplugin_a.* .libs/libgplugin_a.*
(cd .  ln -s 
libgplugin_a.lo libgplugin_a.o)
gcc -bundle -flat_namespace -undefined suppress -o 
.libs/libgplugin_a.so
libgplugin_a.lo  -L/sw/lib -ldl -lc  -install_name  /sw/lib/libgplugin_a.so 
ld: -i 
argument: nstall_name must have a ':' between it's symbol names
make[2]: *** 
[libgplugin_a.la] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** 
[all-recursive-am] Error 2
### make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling 
glib-1.2.10-7 failed
[localhost:~] hester% 

Any ideas?

  Jeff

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:56 AM
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 Subject:  Re: [Fink-devel] gcc3
 
 Some more :
 
 Build correctly (apparently..):
 openjade-1.3.1-1 libxml2-2.4.22-2 glib-1.2.10-7 guile-1.4-4 
 scrollkeeper-0.2-7 gnome-print-0.36-1 gnome-games-1.4.0.4-2 
 pdksh-5.2.14-2 scsh-0.5.3-1 db4-4.0.14-7 popt-1.6.2-2 gnet-1.1.2-1 
 launch-1.0a9-2 pspell-.12.2-1 astyle-1.15.3-1 openldap-ssl-2.0.23-3 
 cpio-2.4.2-3 dict-1.5.5-2 libwww-5.3.2-3 bc-1.06-1 hugs-1998.200102-3 
 hx-0.1.39-5 hxd-0.1.39-2 indent-2.2.6-1 ispell-3.2.06-2 libogg-1.0rc3-3 
 libpcap-0.6.2-5 libvorbis-1.0rc3-3 mutt-ssl-1.3.99i-1 ncftp-3.1.3-1 
 netcat-1.10-4 pine-ssl-4.44-2 pth-1.4.0-6 recode-3.6-6 slang-1.4.5-3 
 less-358-4 links-ssl-0.96-3 lynx-ssl-2.8.4-2 hfsutils-3.2.6-1 
 python-fchksum-1.6.1-1 intltool-0.18-2 linc1-0.1.21-2 libidl2-0.7.4-3 
 apache-1.3.23-1 (with the correction in the bug tracker) 
 libproplist-0.10.1-4 rlpr-2.04-3 mysql-3.23.49-2 hermes-1.3.2-2 
 libpng3-1.2.1-2 libmpeg-1.3.1-6 libmikmod-3.1.9-3 hexcurse-1.54-1 
 metapixel-0.7-2 libfame-0.8.10-1 gnuplot-3.8h.0-7 compress-zlib-
 pm-1.16-1 date-manip-pm-5.40-2 data-showtable-pm-3.3-1 cvs2cl-2.38-1 
 lrzsz-0.12.20-1 zssh-1.4-2 yap-4.3.19-1 yafc-0.7.9-1 xml-writer-pm-0.4-2 
 xml-parser-pm-2.30-2 xml-simple-pm-1.05-2 xml-regexp-pm-0.03-2 
 xdelta-1.1.3-1 openurl-20010728-1 gc-6.0-4 w3m-ssl-0.2.5.1-1 w3m-
 el-1.2.4-1 mpack-1.5-2 base64-1.3-1 mime-base64-pm-2.12-2 memoize-
 pm-0.66-2 lzo-1.07-3 logcheck-1.1.1-2 uri-pm-1.18-1 unrtf-0.18.1-1 
 tree-1.3-2 tmake-1.7-2 tie-ixhash-pm-1.21-2 tftp-hpa-0.26-1 
 term-readline-pm-0.9908-1 term-progressbar-pm-1.0-2 term-readkey-
 pm-2.18-1 sha-pm-1.2-1 libole2-0.2.4-2 libnet-1.0.2a-2 libnet-pm-1.09-2 
 libiodbc-2.50.3-6 tcptraceroute-1.2-2 tcpflow-0.20-1 smpeg-0.4.4-5 
 sdl-mixer-1.2.4-2 dnstracer-1.5-1 calcoo-1.3.9-1
 
 Failures:
 orbit2-2.3.108-2 ( install_name error) prcs-1.3.1-1 aspell-.33.7.1-2 
 plotutils-2.4.1-2 cyrus-sasl-1.5.27-2 a2ps-4.12-4 libghttp-1.0.9-3 
 librep-0.14-6 (install_name error) libsigc++-1.0.4-2 (undefined symbols)
 sendfile : autoconf error... (autoconf25 is installed, I'll retry once 
 without, or with autoconf)
 
 Finally, correction about yesterday:
 
 xfree86-rootless does NOT build correctly: gets to the end, but there is 
 a problem
 (twice) with libGLU :
 + /usr/bin/cc -o ./libGLU.1.3.dylib~ -dynamiclib -install_name 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.1.dylib -current_version 1.3 
 -compatibility_version 1.3 libutil/error.o libutil/glue.o 
 libutil/mipmap.o libutil/project.o libutil/quad.o
 ...
 libnurbs/nurbtess/searchTree.o -L../../exports/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
 -lXext -lX11 -lGL
 ld: Undefined symbols:
 __ZTVN10__cxxabiv117__class_type_infoE
 __ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
 __ZTVN10__cxxabiv121__vmi_class_type_infoE
 ___gxx_personality_v0
 ___cxa_pure_virtual
 __ZdaPv
 __Znam
 __ZdlPv
 __Znwm
 __ZSt9terminatev
 /usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
 
 (No other errors apparently, but for packaging problem at the end.)
 
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Re: [Fink-devel] gcc3

2002-06-12 Thread Jean-François Mertens


On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 06:11 , Hester, Jeffrey W. wrote:

 I didn't have the same success with glib...

Went back to check my log-file at that place (and throughout in fact),
and everything is normal.
Had already before such a discrepancy in results concerning libxslt...
It might be interesting to do a diff of log-files, just to see if there 
is any
discrepancy before: if you want, I'll send you mine (bzipped) off-list.

Jean-Francois


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RE: [Fink-devel] gcc3

2002-06-12 Thread Hester, Jeffrey W.

Much better.  It's working.  Thanks David!

Jeff

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:14 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [Fink-devel] gcc3
 
 Jeff, you need to install a pre-release version of the fink package
 manager, in order to get the latest (from yesterday) version of glib
 to compile under gcc3/bash (i.e., jag).
 
 To install this, assuming you are using the CVS update already, go to
 your /sw/fink directory and say cvs checkout fink.  Now cd into the
 new fink directory (/sw/fink/fink) and run ./inject.pl.  That will
 update you to the latest, experimental, prerelease fink version which
 supports glib on jag.
 
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Re: [Fink-devel] symlink in gtk+ package

2002-06-12 Thread Masanori Sekino

H,

On 2002.06.12, at 16:18, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
 There are several possible fixes:

 1) Patch the libgnomecanvas2 .pc file so that gtk+-2.0 is at the front. 
 This is an easy fix, and I have verified that this puts 
 -I/sw/include/gtk-2.0 before -I/sw/include in libgnomecanvas's cflags, 
 but there is no guarantee that other packages won't also put pango 
 first in the Depends field.

 2) Prevent -I/sw/include from being added to pango's cflags. This is 
 also easy, and is great because it will ensure that -I/sw/include will 
 never be placed before -I/sw/include/gtk-2.0. However, this may break 
 packages that use NoSetCPPFLAGS if they still need to include stuff 
 from /sw/include.

 3) Remove the /sw/include/gtk symlink. This is not so easy, it could 
 cause many problems, but may be necessary.

I already started 3), because I think it is necessary and it is easier 
if we do it earlier. I listed packages which depends (or build-depends) 
on gtk+ and confirmed that they can be compiled without symlinks.

version of package I confirmed
.info name  (empty version denotes not confirmed yet)
==
abiword
amaya-gtk
aria0.10.0-2
asp2php
aterm   0.4.2-2
axyftp  0.5.1-5
basiliskii
bidwatcher
bluefish0.7-1
bonobo  1.0.20-1
bonobo-conf 0.14-2
bundle-gnome1.4-3
calcoo  1.3.9-1
chemtool
control-center  1.4.0.5-2
dama
danican
deskmenu
dia
dillo   0.6.6-1
directoryadministrator
dopewars
eboard  0.5.1-1
eboard-extras   1pl2-1
eel 1.0.2-3
enlightenment
eog 0.6-3
eterm
ethereal
ethereal-ssl
euler
evolution
fnlib
freeciv
fvwm2
fvwm2-no-gnome
gabber
gabber-ssl
gaim
gal19   0.19.2-1
galeon
gbiff
gconf   1.0.9-1
gdis
gdk-pixbuf  0.16.0-6
ghex1.2.1-1
ghx
gimp
gimp-perl
glade
glchess
glibwww 0.2-4
gnapster
gnomame
gnome-applets   1.4.0.5-2
gnome-apt   0.3.15-3
gnome-core  1.4.0.8-1
gnome-games 1.4.0.4-2
gnome-libs  1.4.1.7-1
gnome-pim   1.4.0-1
gnome-print 0.36-1
gnome-python1.4.1-7
gnome-utils 1.4.1.2-2
gnome-vfs   1.0.5-4
gnome-vfs-ssl   1.0.5-4
gnomeicu
gnotepad+   1.3.3-1
gnubg
gnubg-bearoff
gnucash
gnumeric
gpa
gperiodic
gq
gqview  1.0.2-1
grustibus
gtk+extra   0.99.16-3
gtk+extra17 0.99.17-1
gtk-engines 0.12-1
gtk-gnutella
gtk-perl-pm 0.7008-5
gtkglarea   1.2.3-2
gtkgraph
gtkhtml 1.0.2-1
gtkmm   1.2.8-2
gtkmonop
gtkyahoo
gtop1.0.13-1
guppi
guppi16
icewm
imlib   1.9.10-9
jags
jpilot  0.99.2-2
lame
libdv
libglade0.17-3
libgtop 1.0.13-6
librsvg 1.0.3-2
libstroke
mc  4.5.55-1
mjpegtools-1.5
mlview
mozilla
mplayer
mtoolsfm-1.9
mtr
multi-gnome-terminal
myodbc-unixodbc
nautilus
nessus-common
nethack
nmap
oaf 0.6.10-1
oregano
pan
peacock
pygtk   0.6.8-2
rep-gtk 0.15-3
rox
sambasentinel
sawfish 1.0.1-1
scigraphica
scipy
sodipodi0.24.1-2
spacechart
starplot
starplot-gliese-3
stuphead
sylpheed0.7.4-3
sylpheed-ssl
terraform
uae
unixodbc
vice
vim 6.1-1
visualos
wxgtk
wxpython-wxgtk
xchat
xchat-ssl
xfce
xmms1.2.7-1
xmms-crossfade
xmms-mad
xscorch


 By the way, here are the Gnome 2 packages I have finished (well at 
 least they compile) or am working on:

What I finished or working on is:

libgtop2
gail1
libgnome2
libgnomeprint2
libwnck1
libzvt2
libbonoboui2
libgnomeui2
libgnomeprintui2
gnome-desktop
gnome-session
gnome-terminal
gnome-panel
gnome-utils
gnome-applets

Re: [Fink-devel] dselect

2002-06-12 Thread Anthony DeRobertis

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 22:21, Ward W. Vuillemot wrote:
 I have a very simple question.
 
 ... What is dselect written in?

C++. Parts of dpkg are writtin in C. 

 If dselect is 
 written in Perl, I would _love_ to know how you got the interface...what 
 modules, anything to get me pointed in the right direction.

I trust you know of CPAN? Look at the ReadLine module. With that, you
can make a shell complete with completion, etc.

If you want to go further, look at ncurses. Browsing the Debian package
list, I see a couple of curses/ncurses packages for perl.

ncurses is the defacto way of doing text-mode GUI.

There are also perl bindings for, e.g., gtk. There might even be aqua
ones; not sure.

 I noticed that dselect is in binary...which 
 has me wondering that it might be something other than perl.  But the 
 web-site has me wondering. . . .

Wonder no more! Use the source --- http://cvs.debian.org/?cvsroot=dpkg
or apt-get source dpkg (not sure if that works with Fink...)



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Re: [Fink-devel] dselect

2002-06-12 Thread Jeremy Erwin


On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 10:44  PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
 Wonder no more! Use the source --- http://cvs.debian.org/?cvsroot=dpkg
 or apt-get source dpkg (not sure if that works with Fink...)

Isn't it in %p/src?

If, for some odd reason, it's not, fink fetch dpkg does nicely.

Personally, I think binaries are overrated-- harder to debug.

Jeremy


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