Darian Lanx wrote:
I can understand that. I think one of the major plus points would be,
that your .app is automatically upgraded once the package maintainer
packages a new version of that specific software. Especially with Open
Source software that is going 'native' I'd see that as a plus
Benjamin Reed wrote:
I've been thinking about how some of this would work. It's also come up
recently on the DarwinPorts list, and the suggestion was to use
/Developer/Tools/SplitForks to be able to package up the apps, and then
put them back together with
/System/Library/CoreServices
Martin Costabel wrote:
I really don't think we should have packages install their stuff
directly in /sw/Applications in their install phase; instead I think we
I'm not sure if I understand you here. The finkcommander package builds
in /sw/src/finkcommander-0.5.1-2/FinkCommander and installs
Christian Schaffner wrote:
There was already a GCC field in that info file, leading to
WARNING: Field gcc occurs more than once in
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/id3lib4.info.
Shall i remove it?
yeah, i was a bit overzealous, I got an id3lib4 as well as 3.7 ;)
Looks like it's
Joe Corneli wrote:
I'm really talking about two things, one of which is no problem.
1. being able to change compile time options
No problem, its already possible. Everyone agrees that you better
know roughly what you're doing, or the package won't work.
2. being able to dynamically find
Daniel Macks wrote:
It we want to go programming-language-style:
Depends: %type_perl_version == 5.8.1 thing-pm
Depends: %type_nox == -nox || x11
It we want to be a bit more linguistic/thought-process oriented:
Depends: %type_perl_version = 5.8.1 ? thing-pm
Actually, I think the part that
Martin Costabel wrote:
Something like this should probably go into the fink package or it could
even be merged with the fink-virtual-pkgs script, maybe activated by
fink-virtual-pkgs --debug-x11 or something similar.
OK, I've checked in an analog to what your script does to the virtual
Martin Costabel wrote:
You guys are really fast. It helps, of course, if one knows perl, I
guess :-) I don't, I have more or less been feeling my way around in the
dark. This looks good. In VirtPackage.pm there are two 'print missing'
where I would have put missing\n.
Oop! Good catch, fixed
Daniel Macks wrote:
I'm about to add a note about using -x'*~'
and .orig
and .rej
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not to split libfoo-dev and keep its data into libfoo?
Generally in this case, if it's primarily a library, you don't need the
-dev splitoff, put that stuff in libfoo instead.
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that are newer than the versions in
XFree86 4.3, so once you go forward, you can't go back.
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Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
I haven't seen any .info files updated at all for the past two days.
Did everyone go home? :)
it might be my rss feed is acting up... I've seen updates...
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This almost always means you've linked using gcc instead of g++.
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why the Fink
flex-devel package exists now, for people that need the newer flex
features. It stays out of the way of the original flex, and I suspect
we'll have to leave the old one pretty much as it is for all of time.
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to affect bin
and man files. Other solutions could be implemented by the package
maintainers if they wish.
Comments, as always, are very welcome.
All of this sounds sane to me. I'll look at your exp tree if I get the
chance.
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instead of having
to say file-spec-pm | perl580-core | perl583-core. These perl* packages
also have a large number of Replaces, to take care of duplicate files
in /sw/bin and /sw/share/man.
How will we handle such provides from system-perl done in the virtuals?
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package I made anyways. Thanks for the
head's up...
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a GPL'd library.
It's probably enough to use BSD even.
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gzip stuff, but I guess it wouldn't be there at all then. =)
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was already broken, I figured that wasn't a blocker to release. Expect
an updated arts once I get it working. =)
If you have questions/comments/etc. please let me know.
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=-fconstant-cfstrings
...to the two make bits in tcltk.info, but that seems rather hackish.
Any ideas on a proper way to handle this?
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Ben Hines wrote:
Revert this
erm, ok, I was out of town... why?
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have been on crack. Sorry about that, I've reverted it.
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AIDA Shinra wrote:
If B did not directly refer any neon's symbols,
gcc -o B B.o -lA -lneon
Oh, this line is:
gcc -o B B.o -lA
Of course, not directly referring to these symbols is exceedingly rare,
and most likely doesn't account for the most common case...
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that's got headers for development in it should be
BuildDependsOnly. As I understand it, there are some packages that use
headers at runtime, but, IMHO, the headers should be duplicated in
/sw/share as data in that particular case.
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Michèle Garoche wrote:
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| Le 18 juin 2004, à 15:48, Benjamin Reed a écrit :
|
| I agree that anything that's got headers for development in it should be
| BuildDependsOnly. As I understand it, there are some packages that use
| headers at runtime
package)
foo-dev (with headers only)
or should I have:
foo
foo-shlibs
foo-dev
You can certainly have packages with headers that don't have shared
libraries; it's reasonably rare but it happens. There's no point in
making an empty -shlibs in that case...
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. splitting off a -dev just like we currently unofficially
do -- things with headers that have, say, only static libraries, or are
just an interface like ladspa, where there's a header, but no library at
all.
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David R. Morrison wrote:
I've modified the proposed policy in response to today's feedback (and
after a bit of coding for the forthcoming fink 0.20.5). Further discussion
and feedback are most welcome.
sounds great to me
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that's Provided by perl581, you end up with a
*real* perl581, but a *virtual* perl581-core, and get this error. The
actual error is that /sw/bin/perl can't find /sw/lib/foo/libperl.dylib
that it's linked against.
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it so they show up
in the package list, but as uninstalled, with a package DescDetail
saying how to download them.
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drawbacks to this? Anything I've overlooked?
Sounds fine to me.
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yup, it's normal; it's trying to do update-alternatives on those files
but they only exist if you have the -dev package installed.
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jfm wrote:
I see your log msg 'Restrict use of %a to PatchScript.' from this morning.
So the msg below should have gone to you...
(Is there a real need for this restriction?)
Why restrict it, anyways?
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to best do it?
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/ =)
While I've got your ear, I'm also curious about why there is no tomcat
package for Panther.
I am working on it, that's why all the java stuff got updated. :)
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of multiple source tarballs.
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/pod2man --release=1.0.48 --center=RRDtool
rrdtool.pod rrdtool.1
/bin/sh: line 1: /sw/bin/perl5.8*: No such file or directory
OK, I just checked in a fix...
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instead of
io-stringy-pm5XX. I've fixed the two I maintain, I'm cc'ing the
maintainer of the other 2 packages that do so (rtf-tokenizer-pm and
rtf-parser-pm).
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it. :)
I was fixing all my perl module packages to use the new virt stuff, and
accidentally made it a -pm5XX instead of just a -pm, I'll fix it as soon
as I have the time.
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David H. wrote:
I doubt you will be making many happy with that. There are many old
schoolers like me that simply hate Info format :)
But it makes things a hell of a lot easier to maintain; let people use
what they want, man. :)
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to their includes instead.
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We put a lot of thought into our defaults. We like them. If we
didn't, we would have made something else be the default. So
keep your cotton-pickin' hands off our
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 16:37, Martin Costabel wrote:
It is a pity that the symptom is doctored instead of telling the guy on
#fink to fix his broken Stuffit Pro. There was never (well, apart from
the short period while we tried to find the reason for the failure) any
reason to deprecate
checked
with -devel, but the world isn't going to end.
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It appears to screw up colors on some types of PNG images.
Before (libpng-1.2.5-4):
http://ranger.befunk.com/misc/libpng-1.2.5-4.jpg
After (libpng-1.2.6-6):
http://ranger.befunk.com/misc/libpng-1.2.6-6.jpg
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some endianness twiddling that might have caused it.
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We put a lot of thought into our defaults. We like them. If we
didn't, we would have made something else be the default. So
keep your cotton-pickin' hands off our
with all javas?
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You can scoff, Lister, that's nothing new. They laughed at
Galileo. They laughed at Edison. They laughed at Columbo.
Who's Columbo? The man with the dirty mac who discovered
America. -- Rimmer
and so on.
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You can scoff, Lister, that's nothing new. They laughed at
Galileo. They laughed at Edison. They laughed at Columbo.
Who's Columbo? The man with the dirty mac who discovered
America. -- Rimmer, on _Red
Anyone have objections to me moving XFree86 4.4.0 to stable in 10.3?
While I'm doing so, I'm going to up the revision, and change the
Conflicts/Replaces to handle X.org.
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A computer scientist is someone who, when
on to the
next mirror instead of prompting me?
No. Once your package gets released to the fink tree, the mirrors will
pick it up and the file *will* be there.
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You CAN'T clean the toilet, Neil, it'll lose all it's
different,
freeglut and glut's libraries will not be interchangeable. This would
definitely preclude it's inclusion in Fink as something that would
provide/replace glut.
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You CAN'T clean the toilet, Neil, it'll lose
if
system-javaXX is there, jar is there.
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Trevor Harmon wrote:
On Sep 21, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Trevor Harmon wrote:
I'm packaging an application that requires Java's jar utility at
build time (but not runtime). So, I'd like to specify whatever
BuildDepends flag that maps to the jar utility. This is where I'm
stuck
be documented. =)
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about packages, finishing with the line -- FZ -- : removing invalid
items for http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/fink-unstable.rdf; and
showing no new commits (which is wrong).
It's broken, and I'm working on it. =)
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Apple's stuff be Apple;s.
Yes. Instead patch autogen.sh to not look for libtool/libtoolize, and
isntead use glibtool and glibtoolize. Then things should work as
you expect.
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A computer scientist is someone who
files, only the original source files. So if you're set
to go to distfiles, it will fail.
If you mean a specific (non-fink-distfiles) mirror doesn't have stuff,
please let us know and we'll removed it from the mirror choices. Last I
did a spot-check, the mirrors had everything there.
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will
have to see if they can stand on their own.
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Pavel Volkovitskiy wrote:
Hello
Could any-body explain why fink use qt-x11 on mac?
Is it possible to use qt-mac as replace for qt-x11? with recompile of qt-based
software?
yes and no, it's possible, but many linux/unix apps are not compatible
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BABA Yoshihiko wrote:
(B
(B My idea is to modify finknews.dtd and finknews.i18n.xsl to be
(B consistent with documentation. Any idea welcome.
(B
(BThis had confused me as well, in the past, I think that's a good idea...
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this software without specific prior written permission.
this sounds a lot like the BSD license to me
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in their
configure script and see what they're trying to do... This smells like
a broken configure test to me.
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, and I accidentally released
the source ones, rather than the generated ones. Should be fixed now. =)
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I'm not a robot like you. I don't like having disks crammed into
me... unless they're Oreos, and then only
on ELF systems (which is most all systems).
I'm sure googling for darwin and static initializers will come up
with all kinds of fun threads on the subject.
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In theory, there is no difference between theory
/local/rangerrick/common/main/finkinfo/devel
ranger$ fink remove fink-buildlock-distcc-2.18.3-1
Information about 4465 packages read in 7 seconds.
Failed: no package specified for command 'remove'!
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Benjamin Reed wrote:
disco-volante:/sw/fink/dists/local/rangerrick/common/main/finkinfo/devel
ranger$ fink remove fink-buildlock-distcc-2.18.3-1
Information about 4465 packages read in 7 seconds.
Failed: no package specified for command 'remove'!
On closer look, that package wasn't even installed
, won't it? So we still have no control over this issue as a
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I've got a version of freetype2/freetype2-hinting 2.1.9 in my
experimental tree that, in theory, fixes issues of binary compatibility
and building by older packages. It includes some patches from debian
for backwards-compat as well as removing the error about including
ft2build.h first.
I would
Alexander Strange wrote:
There are currently four packages in unstable that mention /sw/ instead
of %p where it might cause the build to error out:
* Jeremy Higgs
ettercap-ssl
* Blair Zajac
grass5.7
* Jeffrey Whitaker
scilab-atlas
scilab
Besides that, there are many more packages
Martin Costabel wrote:
My personal option for a solution would be to
This all sounds good to me.
Do you want to put the packages together, or should I get hacking on it?
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Koen van der Drift wrote:
Not sure what you mean. I only get the problem when mac-growl-pm581 is
installed. Maybe there is a incompatibility between growl (0.6.1) and
mac-growl-pm581 (0.6)?
there is a bug in the Growl-Bindings-0.6.tar.gz or whatever it's called...
$ fink apropos growl
Daniel Johnson wrote:
On Feb 28, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
After some quick tests, I have now committed these packages for
freetype versions 2.1.4 and 2.1.9 to CVS 10.3/unstable:
freetype2, freetype2-dev, freetype2-shlibs
freetype2-hinting, freetype2-hinting-dev,
Michèle Garoche wrote:
I do not understand why, because the checksum is correct in the info
file, so there is a problem on the distfiles server.
Well, I know that the MD5 had changed from what was in the info file on
the original site, so that's why things went bad, I think...
There are 2 issues popping up on the list lately:
1) package foo builds against Apple's X11, but not x.org/xfree86
2) package foo builds against x.org/xfree86, but not Apple's X11
#1 *should* be fixed when I'm able to release new xfree86/x.org packages
that contain the fixes that went into the
David R. Morrison wrote:
My reading of the links you provided suggests that you are correct: we may
not link GPL'd software against fink's openssl package unless the license
explictly permits linking to openssl. (In many cases, there is an
alternative -- link to the system's openssl --
David H. wrote:
no, I am not. That are exactly the words that they told me. The likelyhood
that we will end up in court because we violate the GPL is about 0. Not to
mention that we are not the active party in this case. The long version on
this topic is about 2 hours and a dinner worth.
As the PR
Peter O'Gorman wrote:
I'm kind of late into the fray here (had a short vacation), but would
suggest that we notify submitters that we prefer .info and .patch files to
be placed in the public domain, but that explicit licenses can be added to
comments in the .info file, or the patch file, if
Remi Mommsen wrote:
Hi,
I have a problem with dynamic unloading libraries and suspect that it
involves the prebinding used by fink, as if I compile the package
outside of fink, the problem does not show up. Anyway, which is the
correct/best way to switch off the prebinding for a fink package?
Neil Tiffin wrote:
Setting up postgresql80-ssl-shlibs (8.0.2-12) ...
cat: /sw/var/postgresql/binary.list: No such file or directory
cat: /sw/var/postgresql/man1.list: No such file or directory
cat: /sw/var/postgresql/man7.list: No such file or directory
It appears I was too liberal in my
BABA Yoshihiko wrote:
One thing to note is that postgresql80 (=8.0.2-11) now includes
PostGIS. The current info file depends only on 74, and should be
modified to depend on 80.
My suggestion is to have variants of gdal depending on postgresql
version, as there are too many variants of of
Matthew Sachs wrote:
Okay, the following works:
Panther:
g++ -c lib.cpp -fabi-version=1 -o lib.o
g++ -dynamiclib -fabi-version=1 -o libbreak.dylib lib.o
I'm confused... What good is this? Thousands upon thousands of fink
users already have pre-existing binaries that were built without
Martin Costabel wrote:
My question: What is planned for qt3 in 10.4/stable? In 10.3/stable, the
argument against having qt3-3.3.x (needed by scribus-1.2.1) was that the
kde version in stable needed the older qt3 version 3.2.2. Now kde has
not yet been put into 10.4-transitional/stable, and I
Michèle Garoche wrote:
For doxygen, there had been a newer version in experimental/michga for
2 months now.
People don't mess with other people's experimental, generally. If
you've got a fix, feel free to release it (or pass it on to the
maintainer, if it's not yours). :)
Michèle Garoche wrote:
People don't mess with other people's experimental, generally.
??? I was told that experimental was precisely here to do that.
Provides a location where to put some attempt other people can test or
change.
So, now what is experimental for?
experimental/yourname is for
Max Horn wrote:
ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol ___eprintf
/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin8/4.0.0/libgcc.a(_eprintf.o) private
external definition of ___eprintf in section (__TEXT,__text)
/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin8/4.0.0/libstdc++.dylib(single module)
definition of ___eprintf
D. Hhn wrote:
Deleting the entries in question fixes things, should we maybe have an
auto check for this?
Kind of difficult to have a check for filesystem corruption (this only
happens if your disk is bad, or you control-C or kill off the process at
a bad time).
It happens extremely rarely
Robert M. Lefkowitz wrote:
If this is in fact the current state of Fink, I would be willing to
make an attempt to enhance fink to allow multiple source repositories.
Is this something that would be viewed as helpful? Would anybody be
interested in working with me on this?
Even better,
Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
I have a Logitech Headset, but EsounD doesn't seem to like it. Do you
think you could fix this?
...
Before you ask here, have you checked around online to see if your
headset works with esound on a different platform, e.g. Linux? If it
doesn't work there, then
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