Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Yoav Felberbaum
At 10:53 + 24/3/02, Finlay Dobbie wrote: Just here to say that I've written an article about my experiences as a young developer working with Apple, talking a lot about Darwin but also about Apple's attitude in general. I thought some of you might find it interesting. It's not really a

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Yoav Felberbaum wrote: Please watch as BTi get slashdotted, and Finlay's web site get shut down for exceeding its allocated bandwidth VBEG http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/25/1759218mode=nestedtid=107 irony class=serves 'em right In that case, Finlay should

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Dan Milisic
I've never seen developers and maintainers get so badly reamed on a community project before. If it's not users saying "fink sucks" because they forgot to do something like sudo, it's Apple with a "Think Different" minimum-age-clause. Looks like corporate *and* user base culture-shock against

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Max Horn
While I completly feel with Finlay, let's please not discuss this matter here, there are other places better suited for this out there. Darwin-dev already got majorily swamped by this thread, and we don't have to restart the whole thing here =) Cheers, Max --

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Dan Milisic wrote: I've never seen developers and maintainers get so badly reamed on a community project before. If it's not users saying fink sucks because they forgot to do something like sudo, it's Apple with a Think Different minimum-age-clause. Looks like

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Patrick Tescher
I just wanted to applaud Finlay on how he this. Some people would have ranted on about how apple should be more like other open source projects. I don't think he posted the article on sourceforge (although I could be wrong), and it looks like he actually corrected it. Anyway I am glad we have

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-25 Thread Max Horn
At 17:19 Uhr -0800 25.03.2002, Patrick Tescher wrote: Sorry, I didn't read this before I posted my earlier message. Your absolutely right, unless of course there are problems with minors contributing to other open source projects... Hope not. Well, with all these NDAs required to work on Fink,

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-24 Thread Josh Kuperman
This is very interesting to me. It certainly points out how the GPL licensing in the OpenSource community offers that community a great advantage. Did they ask for the tools back? From my reading of your correspondence, it seems that you and everyone under 18 aren't entitled to download the

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:18 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote: This is very interesting to me. It certainly points out how the GPL licensing in the OpenSource community offers that community a great advantage. Did they ask for the tools back? No. From my reading of your correspondence, it