Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
the .so for A::R and A::C both statically link to libapreq, which should internally bind the entry points between the A::R/A::C and libapreq libs, and it does on every platform including Apple. However, on Apple, the entry points are also *published*, so when both .so's are pulled in, you get a duplicate on the libapreq entry points! I'm not smart enough to know how to turn that off. Randall: I think setting the environment variable DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE may fix this. At least it has for me in similar situations with the python interpreter. -Jeff -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 Meteorologist FAX: (303)497-6449 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 325 BroadwayWeb: www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80303-3328 Office : Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 07:25 , Jeff Whitaker wrote: the .so for A::R and A::C both statically link to libapreq, which should internally bind the entry points between the A::R/A::C and libapreq libs, and it does on every platform including Apple. However, on Apple, the entry points are also *published*, so when both .so's are pulled in, you get a duplicate on the libapreq entry points! I'm not smart enough to know how to turn that off. Randall: I think setting the environment variable DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE may fix this. At least it has for me in similar situations with the python interpreter. Unfortunately, this tends to break other packages that need the two level namespace (Grrr.) How about linking with the -force_flat_namespace option? Does that help? ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 08:20 , David R. Morrison wrote: Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 07:25 , Jeff Whitaker wrote: the .so for A::R and A::C both statically link to libapreq, which should internally bind the entry points between the A::R/A::C and libapreq libs, and it does on every platform including Apple. However, on Apple, the entry points are also *published*, so when both .so's are pulled in, you get a duplicate on the libapreq entry points! I'm not smart enough to know how to turn that off. Randall: I think setting the environment variable DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE may fix this. At least it has for me in similar situations with the python interpreter. Unfortunately, this tends to break other packages that need the two level namespace (Grrr.) How about linking with the -force_flat_namespace option? Does that help? Will try, that goes in LDFLAGS, right? Thanks, Kyle Moffett ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
Kyle == Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kyle Also, I am confused as to exactly what Apache::Request is, and where Kyle it is found, because all these work (and I've never installed a Kyle specific Apache::Request): Kyle [localhost:~] kyle% perl -MApache::Request -e '1' Kyle [localhost:~] kyle% perl -e 'use Apache::Request ()' Kyle [localhost:~] kyle% perldoc Apache::Request The problem is that both Apache::Request and Apache::Cookie link in libapreq (statically). You can use one *or* the other in a given mod_perl-enabled process, but if you try to use both, they both publish the same libapreq's symbols, and you get a symbol clash. One hacky solution is to have libapreq linked statically in with the binary, then let the dynamic Apache/Request.so satisfy the libapreq from there. That's the approach taken by this proffered solution. To me... it seems an odd hack to have to make the core binary provide callbacks needed by second-tier shared libs. :( Of course, the only way I could get mod_perl to pull in .so's is to link it statically, which also seems odd. How could Apple have screwed up the linker and dynloader so much? Kyle I don't know about custom-built dynamic ones, I just rebuilt my Kyle mod_perl static and this worked well. Until you use both Apache::Request and Apache::Cookie, then Booom! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
Kyle == Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is that both Apache::Request and Apache::Cookie link in libapreq (statically). You can use one *or* the other in a given mod_perl-enabled process, but if you try to use both, they both publish the same libapreq's symbols, and you get a symbol clash. Kyle That is kind of weird, why isn't this the case on other platforms? Not sure. the .so for A::R and A::C both statically link to libapreq, which should internally bind the entry points between the A::R/A::C and libapreq libs, and it does on every platform including Apple. However, on Apple, the entry points are also *published*, so when both .so's are pulled in, you get a duplicate on the libapreq entry points! I'm not smart enough to know how to turn that off. That is, how do you tell Apple's linker that when making a .so that is linking to a .a that the entry points that pull the .a in are satisfied and now private? Works on standard GNU ld, and every other ld on the planet. Not on Apple. It makes those .a externs to be also published by the .so. Boom. Bug? Or feature? Another workaround would be to make libapreq a separate .so, and then pulling it in both ways from both A::C and A::R would still be OK. Perhaps. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
On Sunday, January 27, 2002, at 03:55 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: In using Apache::ASP, I need to use Apache::Request, I think, and I think that is the cause for this error: parse_file_count check failed at T.pm line 33. -- , blib/lib/Apache/ASP.pm line 1556 FAILED before any test output arrived What a HEADACHE!!! *:-( Have you had any more luck with Apache::Request? On the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list there have been some recent successes: http://archive.develooper.com/macosx%40perl.org/msg01539.html -Ken ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
parse_file_count check failed at T.pm line 33. -- , blib/lib/Apache/ASP.pm line 1556 FAILED before any test output arrived I figured out this stupid error, the test script makes a silly logical error, I made a patch to fix it, can somebody please add the three packages to CVS (on the tracker) Thanks, Kyle Moffett ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
I have figured out the problem. The apple provided mod_perl is a shared lib. I was looking to rebuild mod_perl with the latest version, and here's what I found: The mod_perl readme says that the shared lib support is new and very unstable I have encountered similar problems just using 'PerlRequire startup.pl' (startup.pl just '#!/usr/bin/perl' )in the httpd.conf file (a.k.a. malloc double free() error) I downloaded and rebuilt apache with mod_perl statically linked, and everything has been going fine (I installed over Apple's, will reinstall after upgrades) I even got some complex perl stuff to work. Therefore: The instability in Apache::Request (A part of mod_perl) may be due to the fact that mod_perl was unstable itself in the .so lib Unfortunately, Apache::ASP does not work yet On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 08:56 , Ken Williams wrote: On Sunday, January 27, 2002, at 03:55 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: In using Apache::ASP, I need to use Apache::Request, I think, and I think that is the cause for this error: parse_file_count check failed at T.pm line 33. -- , blib/lib/Apache/ASP.pm line 1556 FAILED before any test output arrived What a HEADACHE!!! *:-( Have you had any more luck with Apache::Request? On the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list there have been some recent successes: http://archive.develooper.com/macosx%40perl.org/msg01539.html -Ken ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
Sorry, I went skiing this weekend, so I was unable to answer until now On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 11:28 , Ken Williams wrote: Hi Kyle, I have a couple of questions about this: 1) Is Apache::Request one of the modules you've ported? AFAIK nobody else has succeeded in actually getting that (libapr) to work on OS X. It builds and installs fine, but segfaults when you try to run, for instance, the mod_perl test suite. I'm not sure what you mean, all I have done so far is package some of the dependencies that Apache::Request uses to run, I haven't compiled its package at all yet, other than to have it tell me what it needs. I will do that now. I am not trying to compile mod_perl, since the modules can be used with either Apple's preinstalled mod_perl or a Fink installed one, or both! 2) Was there any actual porting work, or just packaging so that you can have the benefits of the package management system? As above, so far all I have done is package stuff for Fink. -Ken Kyle Moffett ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
On Sunday, January 27, 2002, at 01:03 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: Sorry, I went skiing this weekend, so I was unable to answer until now No problem. =) On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 11:28 , Ken Williams wrote: Hi Kyle, I have a couple of questions about this: 1) Is Apache::Request one of the modules you've ported? AFAIK nobody else has succeeded in actually getting that (libapr) to work on OS X. It builds and installs fine, but segfaults when you try to run, for instance, the mod_perl test suite. I'm not sure what you mean, all I have done so far is package some of the dependencies that Apache::Request uses to run, I haven't compiled its package at all yet, other than to have it tell me what it needs. I will do that now. I am not trying to compile mod_perl, since the modules can be used with either Apple's preinstalled mod_perl or a Fink installed one, or both! Right - however, when you start compiling Apache::Request you'll find some difficulties. The following threads from [EMAIL PROTECTED] have tried to deal with these questions: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00800.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00625.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01121.html (I wish there were a better archive for that list, that one's pretty hard to navigate, and not searchable.) -Ken ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
OK, I see what you mean 1) Is Apache::Request one of the modules you've ported? AFAIK nobody else has succeeded in actually getting that (libapr) to work on OS X. It builds and installs fine, but segfaults when you try to run, for instance, the mod_perl test suite. In using Apache::ASP, I need to use Apache::Request, I think, and I think that is the cause for this error: parse_file_count check failed at T.pm line 33. -- , blib/lib/Apache/ASP.pm line 1556 FAILED before any test output arrived What a HEADACHE!!! *:-( Thanx, Kyle Moffett ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
On Sunday, January 27, 2002, at 03:55 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: In using Apache::ASP, I need to use Apache::Request, I think, and I think that is the cause for this error: parse_file_count check failed at T.pm line 33. -- , blib/lib/Apache/ASP.pm line 1556 FAILED before any test output arrived What a HEADACHE!!! *:-( Yeah, agreed. Figuring this out is probably going to take some insight into how shared libraries work, insight I unfortunately don't have. But I know lots of people that would be quite happy indeed to have this problem figured out! -Ken ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 08:15 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: I am attempting to create a slew of packages for Apache::ASP and all its dependancies... Hi Kyle, I have a couple of questions about this: 1) Is Apache::Request one of the modules you've ported? AFAIK nobody else has succeeded in actually getting that (libapr) to work on OS X. It builds and installs fine, but segfaults when you try to run, for instance, the mod_perl test suite. 2) Was there any actual porting work, or just packaging so that you can have the benefits of the package management system? -Ken ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
I am attempting to create a slew of packages for Apache::ASP and all its dependancies, should I create them all, then post to a single package submission? Or should I post individually (like 15 different submissions)? Also, can somebody give the procedure for using diff to make a patch, I did it once successfully, but I have been having problems repeating the thing. Thanks, Kyle Moffett ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage
At the very least, you could create all 15 .info files, wrap them up into a single .tar file, and put the .tar file onto the package submission tracker. Don't make me download 15 separate things! Thanks, Dave ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
