Re: [Fink-devel] RE: [Fink-beginners] Does gnumeric work ...?

2002-02-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

 Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Randal Or, I might just point you at http://www.cvshome.org/dev/patches/http
Randal which tells how to patch your CVS to permit exactly what I was
Randal describing. :)

Or even point out
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/G/GB/GBROCK/ssh2ssl-1.3 which shows
how to make SSH work through a tunnel without modifying *any*
binaries.  I had not seen this before.  Amazing what a google search
will bring up.  And it's in Perl, no less!

OK, I'm going back to my rock now.

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Re: [Fink-devel] RE: [Fink-beginners] Does gnumeric work ...?

2002-02-20 Thread Martin Costabel

Max Horn wrote:

 Regarding gnumeric: we have this system lib version 50.0.0 issue, it
 might be nice if somebody wrote a mini package with a script that
 checks this problem and others, and automatically suggests (and if
 the users says yes, also performs) and update of affected packages.
 This would also be nice for the next Fink release, and for the FAQ,
 we could just tell peoople: run this script to check your system is
 ready

Max,

in this connection I have a beginner's question: Is there some sort of
apt-get reinstall command? I couldn't see this in the docs.

The reason I would need this is that I am compiling my Fink stuff on a
another machine and then use apt-get to install it here. On the other
machine I ran your little script to detect the 50.0.0 dependencies and
ran fink rebuild on the packages detected.

Now I would like to get the updated packages over onto this machine. But
the version numbers did not change, so the only way I see is to use
apt-get remove followed by apt-get install. But due to dependency
following, apt-get wants to remove practically my whole fink
installation, which I would rather avoid. This is also non-reversible:
apt-get remove A wants to remove all packages that depend on A, but
apt-get install A does not reinstall these others, of course.

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Re: [Fink-devel] RE: [Fink-beginners] Does gnumeric work ...?

2002-02-20 Thread Max Horn

At 11:32 Uhr +0100 20.02.2002, Martin Costabel wrote:
Max Horn wrote:

  Regarding gnumeric: we have this system lib version 50.0.0 issue, it
  might be nice if somebody wrote a mini package with a script that
  checks this problem and others, and automatically suggests (and if
  the users says yes, also performs) and update of affected packages.
  This would also be nice for the next Fink release, and for the FAQ,
  we could just tell peoople: run this script to check your system is
  ready

Max,

in this connection I have a beginner's question: Is there some sort of
apt-get reinstall command? I couldn't see this in the docs.

I am not sure what you mean this to do ... fink reinstall will 
reinstall any installed package, no matter if it was installed via 
apt-get or fink.


The reason I would need this is that I am compiling my Fink stuff on a
another machine and then use apt-get to install it here. On the other
machine I ran your little script to detect the 50.0.0 dependencies and
ran fink rebuild on the packages detected.

Ah, so what you want is not apt-get reinstall but more something 
like apt-get refetch-and-install :-)



Now I would like to get the updated packages over onto this machine. But
the version numbers did not change, so the only way I see is to use
apt-get remove followed by apt-get install. But due to dependency
following, apt-get wants to remove practically my whole fink
installation, which I would rather avoid. This is also non-reversible:
apt-get remove A wants to remove all packages that depend on A, but
apt-get install A does not reinstall these others, of course.

Yeah, so I'd suggest this: man apt-get :-)

I did that mysself just now. There is an --reinstall option. 
Alternatively, you could just use fink reinstall bal. Now you only 
need to make sure that apt-get redownloads the .deb. You could force 
that by rm'ing the local copy of the .deb, I am not sure if apt-get 
has an option to force a download.


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Re: [Fink-devel] RE: [Fink-beginners] Does gnumeric work ...?

2002-02-20 Thread Martin Costabel

Max Horn wrote:

 Yeah, so I'd suggest this: man apt-get :-)

I thought I had done this (lame excuse, I know).
 
 I did that mysself just now. There is an --reinstall option.

Yes, thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Works, too.

OTOH, this does not work for me:

 Alternatively, you could just use fink reinstall bal. Now you only
 need to make sure that apt-get redownloads the .deb. You could force
 that by rm'ing the local copy of the .deb, I am not sure if apt-get
 has an option to force a download.

fink reinstall starts downloading source tarballs. apt-get seems to
remove its .debs immediately, maybe that's a config option somewhere.
But apt-get install without the --reinstall option just says it's sorry,
but I already have the latest version.

Thanks again.

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