[Fink-users] imagemagick's gnome dependencies
hi, i was about to install imagemagick on leopard from fink unstable, but, to my surprise, some of its depencies depend in turn on gnome libraries, with the result that it seems to need a lot of gnome stuff to compile... which sounds wrong to me. is this a known issue? cheers, jao -- If all else fails read the instructions. - Donald Knuth pgpUOdssJNL0y.pgp Description: PGP signature - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] imagemagick's gnome dependencies
Hi there, Well some packages in unstable have weird or funny dependencies :) One such case is wine, look: $ fink install wine The following package will be installed or updated: wine The following 159 additional packages will be installed: arts arts-dev arts-shlibs audiofile audiofile-bin audiofile-shlibs autoconf2.5 automake1.8 automake1.9 bash-completion bison cyrus-sasl2-dev cyrus-sasl2-shlibs daemonic db44-aes db44-aes-shlibs dbus-dev dbus-shlibs docbook-dsssl-nwalsh docbook-dtd docbook-utils doxygen esound esound-bin esound-common esound-shlibs expat1 expat1-shlibs fink-obsolete-packages flac flac-shlibs flex fontconfig2-dev fontconfig2-shlibs fontforge freetype2-hinting-dev freetype2-hinting-shlibs freetype219 freetype219-shlibs gawk gd2 gd2-bin gd2-shlibs gdbm3 gdbm3-shlibs gettext-dev ghostscript ghostscript-fonts giflib giflib-bin giflib-shlibs glib glib-shlibs glib2-dev glib2-shlibs graphviz gtk+ gtk+-data gtk+-shlibs id3lib4-dev id3lib4-shlibs jack-dev jack-shlibs jadetex lcms lcms-bin lcms-shlibs libexif12 libexif12-shlibs libgphoto2 libgphoto2-shlibs libicu36-dev libjpeg libjpeg-bin libjpeg-shlibs libkpathsea4 libkpathsea4-shlibs libmad libmad-shlibs libmikmod libmikmod-shlibs libogg libogg-shlibs libpng3 libpng3-shlibs libsndfile1-devlibsndfile1-shlibs libspiro0 libspiro0-shlibs libtiff libtiff-bin libtiff-shlibs libtool14 libtool14-shlibs libuninameslist1 libuninameslist1-shlibs libusb libusb-shlibs libvorbis0 libvorbis0-shlibs libwww libwww-bin libwww-shlibs libxml libxml-shlibs libxml2 libxml2-bin libxml2-shlibs libxslt libxslt-bin libxslt-shlibs lynx lynx-ssl make mesa mesa-shlibs openjade openldap23-dev openldap23-shlibs openmotif3 openmotif3-shlibs opensp4 opensp4-dev opensp4-shlibs openssl097 openssl097-dev openssl097-shlibs pkgconfig popt popt-shlibs portaudio portaudio-shlibs qt3 qt3-designer qt3-designer-shlibs qt3-doc qt3-linguist qt3-shlibs readline readline-shlibs sane-backends sane-backends-dev sane-backends-shlibs sgml-entities-iso8879 sgmls-pm t1lib5-nox t1lib5-nox-shlibs t1lib5-x11 t1lib5-x11-shlibs tcltk tcltk-dev tcltk-shlibs tetex-base tetex-texmf unsermake xdg-base xmms xmms-bin xmms-shlibs Do you want to continue? [Y/n] ... ouch, 159 packages in wine dependencies ? Some of them really should not be there, for instance xmms-*, bison, arts-*, esound-* Greetings, -- Pierre Bauduin 2008/1/14, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, i was about to install imagemagick on leopard from fink unstable, but, to my surprise, some of its depencies depend in turn on gnome libraries, with the result that it seems to need a lot of gnome stuff to compile... which sounds wrong to me. is this a known issue? cheers, jao -- If all else fails read the instructions. - Donald Knuth - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] imagemagick's gnome dependencies
You can 'fink show-deps PACKAGE' to see the immediate (explicit) dependencies of PACKAGE. I bet you'll find that the problem from your perspective is not wine itself (or imagemagick itself), which may have a small list of dependencies that all see reasonable. Rather, one of those innocuous-sounding deps may need some huge set of libraries to support it. Consider that there are lots of independent pieces of reusable code instead of the thing you want containing everything in its single (and huge) binary...the code's all gotta be present and compiled, it's just an issue of where and how. It's a large number of packages if you have a relatively bare-bones system, but that's how open-source is: each thing is a relatively small layer on top of several lower-level things (and so on down the chain). If you have never needed any of the lower-level things, they will all have to be installed in order to use some very high-level thing. Then when you need some other high-level thing, all those dependent libraries are just re-used. I just installed the full mozilla suite, and I had to install zero additional things (!) because all of its dependencies (and their dependencies, and so on) were already installed for other stuff I was using. The two cases at hand provide good examples actually. Imagemagick just needs a few image and font-rendering libraries, but one of those is written on top of several gnome packages, each of which has more gnome to support it. Conversely, is it really surprising that a whole Win32 emulation system involves graphics, sound, text, file-format support, system services, widgets, and security? dan On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:43:37AM +0100, Pierre Bauduin wrote: Hi there, Well some packages in unstable have weird or funny dependencies :) One such case is wine, look: $ fink install wine The following package will be installed or updated: wine The following 159 additional packages will be installed: arts arts-dev arts-shlibs audiofile audiofile-bin audiofile-shlibs autoconf2.5 automake1.8 automake1.9 bash-completion bison cyrus-sasl2-dev cyrus-sasl2-shlibs daemonic db44-aes db44-aes-shlibs dbus-dev dbus-shlibs docbook-dsssl-nwalsh docbook-dtd docbook-utils doxygen esound esound-bin esound-common esound-shlibs expat1 expat1-shlibs fink-obsolete-packages flac flac-shlibs flex fontconfig2-dev fontconfig2-shlibs fontforge freetype2-hinting-dev freetype2-hinting-shlibs freetype219 freetype219-shlibs gawk gd2 gd2-bin gd2-shlibs gdbm3 gdbm3-shlibs gettext-dev ghostscript ghostscript-fonts giflib giflib-bin giflib-shlibs glib glib-shlibs glib2-dev glib2-shlibs graphviz gtk+ gtk+-data gtk+-shlibs id3lib4-dev id3lib4-shlibs jack-dev jack-shlibs jadetex lcms lcms-bin lcms-shlibs libexif12 libexif12-shlibs libgphoto2 libgphoto2-shlibs libicu36-dev libjpeg libjpeg-bin libjpeg-shlibs libkpathsea4 libkpathsea4-shlibs libmad libmad-shlibs libmikmod libmikmod-shlibs libogg libogg-shlibs libpng3 libpng3-shlibs libsndfile1-devlibsndfile1-shlibs libspiro0 libspiro0-shlibs libtiff libtiff-bin libtiff-shlibs libtool14 libtool14-shlibs libuninameslist1 libuninameslist1-shlibs libusb libusb-shlibs libvorbis0 libvorbis0-shlibs libwww libwww-bin libwww-shlibs libxml libxml-shlibs libxml2 libxml2-bin libxml2-shlibs libxslt libxslt-bin libxslt-shlibs lynx lynx-ssl make mesa mesa-shlibs openjade openldap23-dev openldap23-shlibs openmotif3 openmotif3-shlibs opensp4 opensp4-dev opensp4-shlibs openssl097 openssl097-dev openssl097-shlibs pkgconfig popt popt-shlibs portaudio portaudio-shlibs qt3 qt3-designer qt3-designer-shlibs qt3-doc qt3-linguist qt3-shlibs readline readline-shlibs sane-backends sane-backends-dev sane-backends-shlibs sgml-entities-iso8879 sgmls-pm t1lib5-nox t1lib5-nox-shlibs t1lib5-x11 t1lib5-x11-shlibs tcltk tcltk-dev tcltk-shlibs tetex-base tetex-texmf unsermake xdg-base xmms xmms-bin xmms-shlibs Do you want to continue? [Y/n] ... ouch, 159 packages in wine dependencies ? Some of them really should not be there, for instance xmms-*, bison, arts-*, esound-* Greetings, -- Pierre Bauduin 2008/1/14, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, i was about to install imagemagick on leopard from fink unstable, but, to my surprise, some of its depencies depend in turn on gnome libraries, with the result that it seems to need a lot of gnome stuff to compile... which sounds wrong to me. is this a known issue? cheers, jao -- If all else fails read the instructions. - Donald Knuth - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Fink-users] g77 update failure
On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: I'm running Leopard on PPC. Today, I did a selfupdate and tried to update-all Unfortunately, g77 is failing. Two weeks ago, the new g77 maintainer put up a new version on the submission tracker #1860726 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1860726group_id=17203atid=414256 I helped maintainer for a while, but ran out of time when this arrived, so I couldn't test it. You would be very welcome if you could test this version. It is supposed to have fixed the bug you are reporting. It built successfully. I'll do some checking and let you know how it goes. Ben - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] g77 update failure
On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: I'm running Leopard on PPC. Today, I did a selfupdate and tried to update-all Unfortunately, g77 is failing. Two weeks ago, the new g77 maintainer put up a new version on the submission tracker #1860726 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1860726group_id=17203atid=414256 I helped maintainer for a while, but ran out of time when this arrived, so I couldn't test it. You would be very welcome if you could test this version. It is supposed to have fixed the bug you are reporting. My rather large FEM/BEM program worked perfectly! - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] r-base install problem
On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Ben Abbott wrote: I'm trying to install GNU's R. The install of r-base went fine, but when I tried to follow the instructions for installation fo the GUI; R.app no longer included in the R source distribution. To install, go to http://cran.r-project.org/bin/macosx/, download and install R- GUI.dmg. You will then need to edit Info.plist inside the app bundle to point to /sw/Library/R.Framework (instead of /Library/R.Framework). -- http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/r-base The installer refused to allow me to install the GUI. You cannot install R GUI for Mac OS X on this volume. Requires Mac OS X 10.4.4 or higher. I should point out that the installer contains 4 packages. gfortran.pkg, R-Framework.pkg, R-GUI.pkg, and tcltk.pkg. Since the others are already installed via Fink, I only tried to install R-GUI. The fix was to edit the Info.plist in the bundle for R-GUI.dmg *before* installing. I'd like to suggest a change to the documentation. Perhaps something like the below. R.app no longer included in the R source distribution. To install, go to http://cran.r-project.org/bin/macosx/, and download, move a copy of R-GUI.dmg to your desktop, and edit Info.plist inside the R- GUI.dmg bundle to point to /sw/Library/R.Framework (instead of /Library/ R.Framework). Once R-GUI knows where the Framework resides, you can install. -- http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/r-base Ben I did a bit more digging. When I try to run R from inside the installed bundle, I get ./R dyld: Library not loaded: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/2.6/ Resources/lib/libR.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/R.app/Contents/MacOS/./R Reason: image not found Trace/BPT trap Meanwhile the Info.plist file in the bundle does not contain a reference to the R.framework. Ben- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
I'm running $ fink --version Package manager version: 0.27.8 Distribution version: 0.8.1.rsync powerpc And I've recently installed PostgreSQL 8.2.4-1021 I was surprised to find that I could not connect to the server $ psql psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432? But I'm also not quite sure what I should do to get it started. Any advice on where to get started? - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] libgnomeprint2.2 obsolete
Well, it was my fault. But the problem package was libgoffice, not gnucash2. Should be fixed with version 0.2.2-3. Dave -- David Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 13, 2008, at 7:41 PM, David Reiser wrote: What it means is that I was supposed to change the dependency in gnucash2 from libgnomeprint2.2 to libgnomeprint2.2-shlibs. I'll fix it in the upcoming gnucash2 2.2.3. What's obsolete is not the contents of libgnomeprint (but that's coming too, some time in the foreseeable future), but the arrangement of libs in the set of packages described in libgnomeprint2.2.info. Dave On Jan 13, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: Hi all: A minor issue, just out of curiosity: fink cleanup --all tells me that libgnomeprint2.2 is obsolete and fink tries to remove it. However, libgnomeprint2.2 recently got installed on my system with gnucash2. Sounds like a contradiction. :-) Should gnucash2 get rid of libgnomeprint2.2 or is libgnomeprint2.2 not obsolete? Cheers, /CA - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
Damien, But I'm also not quite sure what I should do to get it started. Any advice on where to get started? initdb -D /var/postgres/8.2/data pg_ctl -D /var/postgres/8.2/data start -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
