Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird File and Metadata Security migrated

2020-07-01 Thread Köditz , Martin
On 01-07-2020 18:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
>
> A large table of contents that covers everything will only overwhelm. I think 
> a short list of the documentation with a short 
> summary of the subjects covered would be better than a cross-document 
> table-of-contents.
> 
> But I also think that some of the existing documentation should maybe be 
> moved to an 'attic' (as in: move it out of the way, but keep it accessible as 
> it might be interesting for some, but generally not > very useful due to age 
> or incompleteness).
>
> Mark
> --
> Mark Rotteveel

Well, I don't want a TOC for everything. But everything that covers our product 
"Firebird" should be accessible in one place. So an outstanding guy will find 
useful information in one place. Of course this can be a single page or 
something else.

Regards
Martin

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[Firebird-docs] [FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation] 23670c: Added attributes-de.adoc in nbackup-de. Note from ...

2020-07-01 Thread Martin Köditz
  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation
  Commit: 23670c6d3b2974565e501a62278ff9703ed7c8b1
  
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation/commit/23670c6d3b2974565e501a62278ff9703ed7c8b1
  Author: Martin Köditz 
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
M src/docs/asciidoc/de/firebirddocs/nbackup/firebird-nbackup-de.adoc

  Log Message:
  ---
  Added attributes-de.adoc in nbackup-de. Note from Mark.


  Commit: e6df86ca1cf7ab1543d34690205682c0d3b10d49
  
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation/commit/e6df86ca1cf7ab1543d34690205682c0d3b10d49
  Author: Martin Köditz 
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
M src/docs/asciidoc/de/firebirddocs/fbcache/firebird-cache-de.adoc
M 
src/docs/asciidoc/de/firebirddocs/generatorguide/firebird-generatoren-ratgeber.adoc
M src/docs/asciidoc/de/refdocs/fblangref25/firebird-25-sprachreferenz.adoc
A 
src/docs/asciidoc/en/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur/firebird-metadata-security.adoc
M src/docs/asciidoc/fb-docs-redirects.txt
A src/docs/asciidoc/pt_BR/attributes-pt_BR.adoc
A 
src/docs/asciidoc/pt_BR/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur/firebird-metadata-security-pt_br.adoc
A 
src/docs/asciidoc/ru/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur/firebird-metadata-security-ru.adoc
M 
src/docs/asciidoc/ru/firebirddocs/generatorguide/firebird-generator-guide-ru.adoc
R src/docs/firebirddocs-pt_br/fbmetasecur-pt_br.xml
M src/docs/firebirddocs-pt_br/firebirddocs-pt_br.xml
R src/docs/firebirddocs-ru/fbmetasecur-ru.xml
M src/docs/firebirddocs-ru/firebirddocs-ru.xml
R src/docs/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur.xml
M src/docs/firebirddocs/firebirddocs.xml

  Log Message:
  ---
  Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation


Compare: 
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation/compare/2bb1540c17ca...e6df86ca1cf7


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird File and Metadata Security migrated

2020-07-01 Thread Mark Rotteveel

On 01-07-2020 18:43, Köditz, Martin wrote:
I think a large table of contents makes sense. Even I find it difficult 
to find documents sometimes. How should a newcomer know in which area a 
document is or that it exists at all.


That's why I prefer a single large table of contents.


A large table of contents that covers everything will only overwhelm. I 
think a short list of the documentation with a short summary of the 
subjects covered would be better than a cross-document table-of-contents.


But I also think that some of the existing documentation should maybe be 
moved to an 'attic' (as in: move it out of the way, but keep it 
accessible as it might be interesting for some, but generally not very 
useful due to age or incompleteness).


Mark
--
Mark Rotteveel


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[Firebird-docs] [FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation] 2bb154: Migrate fbmetasecur.xml, fbmetasecur-pt_br.xml, fb...

2020-07-01 Thread Mark Rotteveel
  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation
  Commit: 2bb1540c17ca4523144124d7a9c6e5b89f1ffd6a
  
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation/commit/2bb1540c17ca4523144124d7a9c6e5b89f1ffd6a
  Author: Mark Rotteveel 
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
M src/docs/asciidoc/de/firebirddocs/fbcache/firebird-cache-de.adoc
M 
src/docs/asciidoc/de/firebirddocs/generatorguide/firebird-generatoren-ratgeber.adoc
M src/docs/asciidoc/de/refdocs/fblangref25/firebird-25-sprachreferenz.adoc
A 
src/docs/asciidoc/en/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur/firebird-metadata-security.adoc
M src/docs/asciidoc/fb-docs-redirects.txt
A src/docs/asciidoc/pt_BR/attributes-pt_BR.adoc
A 
src/docs/asciidoc/pt_BR/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur/firebird-metadata-security-pt_br.adoc
A 
src/docs/asciidoc/ru/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur/firebird-metadata-security-ru.adoc
M 
src/docs/asciidoc/ru/firebirddocs/generatorguide/firebird-generator-guide-ru.adoc
R src/docs/firebirddocs-pt_br/fbmetasecur-pt_br.xml
M src/docs/firebirddocs-pt_br/firebirddocs-pt_br.xml
R src/docs/firebirddocs-ru/fbmetasecur-ru.xml
M src/docs/firebirddocs-ru/firebirddocs-ru.xml
R src/docs/firebirddocs/fbmetasecur.xml
M src/docs/firebirddocs/firebirddocs.xml

  Log Message:
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  Migrate fbmetasecur.xml, fbmetasecur-pt_br.xml, fbmetasecur.xml to AsciiDoc

Fix issue with translation of 'Table of Contents' not being used




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Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird File and Metadata Security migrated

2020-07-01 Thread Köditz , Martin
Hello,

I think a large table of contents makes sense. Even I find it difficult to find 
documents sometimes. How should a newcomer know in which area a document is or 
that it exists at all.

That's why I prefer a single large table of contents.

Regards
Martin

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird File and Metadata Security migrated

2020-07-01 Thread Alexey Kovyazin (ak)
Hello,

I support the idea of the single Page list/index for all docs.

I suggest that we should create such page, and then ask people about their
opinion (it will also increase awareness of documentation).

Regards,
Alexey Kovyazin

ср, 1 июл. 2020 г., 16:31 Paul Vinkenoog :

> Mark Rotteveel wrote:
>
> > I migrated the Firebird File and Metadata Security document.
> (...)
> > I do wonder if this document really belongs under 'Reference Manuals', I
> > think it would be more suitable under White Papers & Presentations..
>
> I think the whole categorization is seriously flawed.
>
> First we have the top-level categories:
>
> - Release Notes
> - Reference Manuals
> - White Papers & Presentations
> - FAQ
> - Firebird Books
> - Drivers Documentation
> - Third-Party Docs and Articles
>
> each corresponding to a separate webpage.
>
> Then within those categories (i.e. on most of those webpages) we have
> further subdivisions. For the page "Reference Manuals", they are:
>
> - Current Versions
> - Firebird Command Line Tools
> - Various User Manuals
> - Reference Material (h? I thought the whole page was Reference
> Manuals)
> - Firebird Licenses
>
> and a couple more.
>
> Given the fact that the bulk of our docs is on the "Reference Manuals"
> page, even if they aren't reference manuals, I think that the Firebird
> File and Metadata Security document is reasonably well placed under
> "Various User Manuals".
>
> Now, this isn't a pressing matter, but I do think that we should have
> the Doc index back on a single page again (except maybe for a few docs/
> categories that are heavily "niche" and/or outdated and/or third-party),
> with categories that make sense, and without separate lines for each
> language version, because that's eating up huge amounts of vertical
> space.
>
> Paul Vinkenoog
>
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[Firebird-docs] [FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation] d07fd6: Added German translation of nbackup. Needs some wo...

2020-07-01 Thread Martin Köditz
  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation
  Commit: d07fd69be29e427f5ecc742ecfcd2877c74923db
  
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird-documentation/commit/d07fd69be29e427f5ecc742ecfcd2877c74923db
  Author: Martin Köditz 
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
A src/docs/asciidoc/de/firebirddocs/nbackup/firebird-nbackup-de.adoc

  Log Message:
  ---
  Added German translation of nbackup. Needs some work before publishing.




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Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird File and Metadata Security migrated

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Vinkenoog
Mark Rotteveel wrote:

> I migrated the Firebird File and Metadata Security document.
(...)
> I do wonder if this document really belongs under 'Reference Manuals', I 
> think it would be more suitable under White Papers & Presentations..

I think the whole categorization is seriously flawed.

First we have the top-level categories:

- Release Notes
- Reference Manuals
- White Papers & Presentations
- FAQ
- Firebird Books
- Drivers Documentation
- Third-Party Docs and Articles

each corresponding to a separate webpage.

Then within those categories (i.e. on most of those webpages) we have
further subdivisions. For the page "Reference Manuals", they are:

- Current Versions
- Firebird Command Line Tools
- Various User Manuals
- Reference Material (h? I thought the whole page was Reference Manuals)
- Firebird Licenses

and a couple more.

Given the fact that the bulk of our docs is on the "Reference Manuals"
page, even if they aren't reference manuals, I think that the Firebird
File and Metadata Security document is reasonably well placed under
"Various User Manuals".

Now, this isn't a pressing matter, but I do think that we should have
the Doc index back on a single page again (except maybe for a few docs/
categories that are heavily "niche" and/or outdated and/or third-party),
with categories that make sense, and without separate lines for each
language version, because that's eating up huge amounts of vertical
space.

Paul Vinkenoog


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