[Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Original Message Subject:SV: [Fis] Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:32:04 +0100 From: Søren Brier sb@cbs.dk To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch joe.bren...@bluewin.ch, Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Søren -- Your science without philosophy is what we have mostly been having since the industrial revolution. In this period sciences has mostly been the handmaid of engineering and technology, following Francis Bacon's recommendation. Now that our culture has captured and partly destroyed much

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
How does one measure the synergy among three discourses? That is an interesting question within information theory (as part of both science and philosophy). Best, Loet -Original Message- From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C.

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread John Collier
I guess I am at a loss to see them as separate discourses. Especially in the domain of Information. Contrary to what Stan said, I think that many of the major advances in science from Statistical Mechanics, to Relativity Theory to Quantum Mechanics did and continue to have a major

[Fis] Natural Philosophy? -- RE: [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear colleagues, Could it be so that Philosophy of Statistical Mechanics does not make much sense without Philosophy of Cognition and philosophy of the rest? Could it be so that what we need is Natural Philosophy as it was before it has fallen apart into specialist sciences? With best

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
John, When you say philosophers do you mean theorists? And, if not, what distinguishes the two? What would a philosophical component of information theory look like? Does such a component simply speak about the existential status of information? Is there some epistemology involved? Are there

[Fis] Step Eleven of Twelve Easy Steps

2013-02-11 Thread Karl Javorszky
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