Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-18 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Nikhil -- Leaving aside details of hierarchical structure, I point out, concerning economics: It seems that you have in mind a global economic system in your planning. Is that so? I think that the current global capitalist system would need to be eschewed. Then, this also would seem to involve

[Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-17 Thread Nikhil Joshi
Dear All, The research presented here is focused on gleaning insights leading to new solutions to the economics vs ecosystem conflict. The roots of many of our problems in ecological sustainability lie in the fact that our socio-economic systems are largely focused on fulfilling only human

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-17 Thread John Collier
] On Behalf Of Nikhil Joshi Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:53 To: FIS Group Cc: Nikhil Joshi Subject: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1 Dear All, The research presented here is focused on gleaning insights leading to new solutions

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-17 Thread Francesco Rizzo
m:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Nikhil > Joshi > *Sent:* Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:53 > *To:* FIS Group > *Cc:* Nikhil Joshi > *Subject:* [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, > Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1 > > >

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-12 Thread Stanley N Salthe
bk.ac.uk/>, University of > London; > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ=en > > > > *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Nikhil > Joshi > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 9:47 AM > *To:* FIS Group > *Cc:* Nikh

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-11 Thread Robert E. Ulanowicz
Dear Nikhil, As regards ecosystems, some 20% or so of bound energy is retained via cycling, but the primary function of cycling as conservator is with limiting elements. Often 70+% of necessary elements are retained via cycling within the system. This becomes very evident when one regards coral

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-11 Thread Nikhil Joshi
Dear Guy and FIS colleagues, Thank you for your comments and the copy of your article. Your views on the roots of biological systems and their evolution in dissipate systems are very interesting. Your paper reminds me of a paper by Virgo and Froese on how simple dissipative structures can

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-02 Thread Nikhil Joshi
7:35 PM > To: fis@listas.unizar.es >> fis@listas.unizar.es > Cc: Nikhil Joshi > Subject: Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, > Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1 > > Dear Joseph and Stan, > > Both of you mention about earlier work on isom

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-01 Thread Nikhil Joshi
Dear Joseph and Stan, Both of you mention about earlier work on isomorphisms, and you also mention hetero-organization. If it is not inconvenient, may I request more information on this? You also mention that the use of self-organisation could be a distracting, could you recommend an alternate

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-12-01 Thread Xueshan Yan
Joshi Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:35 PM To: fis@listas.unizar.es >> fis@listas.unizar.es Cc: Nikhil Joshi Subject: Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1 Dear Joseph and Stan, Both of you mention about earlier work on isomor

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-11-27 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Nikhil and colleagues (Bob, Stan...), Let me concur with Stan's arguments. I think you are working with original ideas about two different instances of self-organization in Nature where metabolic-energetic flows are modulated by third parties in order to maintain some maximum of

Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1

2015-11-27 Thread Francesco Rizzo
t wishes, > > Joseph > > > > ----- Original Message - From: "Pedro C. Marijuan" < > pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> > To: <fis@listas.unizar.es> > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel r