Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-30 Thread John Collier
, 2014 3:45 PM To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] The Travellers Dear FIS colleagues, Quite interesting exchanges, really. The discussion reminds me the times when behaviorism and ethology were at odds on how to focus the study of human/animal behavior. (Maybe I already talked about

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-30 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
[mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] På vegne af Pedro C. Marijuan Sendt: 29. oktober 2014 14:46 Til: fis@listas.unizar.es Emne: Re: [Fis] The Travellers Dear FIS colleagues, Quite interesting exchanges, really. The discussion reminds me the times when behaviorism and ethology were at odds on how

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-30 Thread Joseph Brenner
in propositions. Thanks to all, Joseph - Original Message - From: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es To: fis@listas.unizar.es Cc: Søren Brier sb@cbs.dk Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] The Travellers Dear FIS colleagues, I am responding to a mail

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-29 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Quite interesting exchanges, really. The discussion reminds me the times when behaviorism and ethology were at odds on how to focus the study of human/animal behavior. (Maybe I already talked about that some months ago.) On the one side, a rigorous theory and a strongly

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-29 Thread Krassimir Markov
. Marijuan Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:45 PM To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] The Travellers Dear FIS colleagues, Quite interesting exchanges, really. The discussion reminds me the times when behaviorism and ethology were at odds on how to focus the study of human/animal

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-28 Thread Karl Javorszky
Very sympathetic on the concept of travelers is that the basic model is that of a dynamic system, as opposed to a Newtonian one, wherein everything stays put or keeps on continuing as having been instructed to do. For the bourgeois, the travelers have a connotation of mystery. They follow paths

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-27 Thread John Collier
Folks, I agree with Pedro that the meaning issue is important. After trying to give a coherent account within established information theory for a number of years (starting with Intrinsic Information in 1990) I came to the conclusion that information theory was not enough, and admitted

Re: [Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-27 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Cari tutti, secondo me, il concetto o significato dell'informazione è l'assunzione o il prendere forma di tutti e di tutto. Vi sono tanti tipi di informazione che usano unità di misure diverse e talvolta contrastanti. Ad es, l'informazione matematica si misura in bit di entropia. Nell'informazione

[Fis] The Travellers

2014-10-23 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Regarding the theme of physical information raised by Igor and Joseph, the main problematic aspect of information (meaning) is missing there. One can imagine that as two physical systems interact, each one may be metaphorically attributed with meaning respect the changes