Re: [Fis] about fis discussions (2)

2007-06-20 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, We have had a couple of self-introductions these two days, Robin and Javier. It may be a good idea that other parties recently arrived into the list follow this trend, and introduce themselves during these weeks of lull. Actually I agree, but partially, in what Robin

Re: [Fis] about fis discussions (2)

2007-06-16 Thread Robin Faichney
Friday, June 15, 2007, 12:30:07 PM, Pedro wrote: Perhaps we have not achieved a clear demarcation from mechanics yet, theoretically speaking. And that may be another serious problem in itself. In what is different the informational from the mechanical? Or in my own terms: Distinction

Re: [Fis] about fis discussions (2)

2007-06-15 Thread mjs
Dear Colleagues: I think Pedro's initiative to redirect the discussion is excellent. With time, I started to get impression that because Information Science is so young, our discussions started to remind a puppy which from time to time is noticing its tail and comes back to the eternal chase.

Re: [Fis] about fis discussions (2)

2007-06-15 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, Thanks a lot for the responses. It is nice that we will have a good theme to deal with during these months of lull (the planned sessions will start around beginings of September)... Ted has made a very valiant presentation on fundamental aspects of our strategy. Time

Re: [Fis] about fis discussions

2007-06-13 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear FIS colleagues, About the approaches to the information concept commented by Karl, Loet, John, and Stan, let me argue that some of them have a rather narrow conceptual domain of applicability. In Karl's approach I have already argued that his highly suggestive conflation of the

Re: [Fis] about fis discussions

2007-06-13 Thread John Collier
At 06:22 AM 13/06/2007, Pedro Marijuan wrote: Dear FIS colleagues, About the approaches to the information concept commented by Karl, Loet, John, and Stan, let me argue that some of them have a rather narrow conceptual domain of applicability. In Karl's approach I have already argued that

RE: [Fis] about fis discussions

2007-06-07 Thread John Collier
At 12:37 AM 07/06/2007, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: Dear Karl, Unlike physical measures like the meter, information (probabilistic entropy) can be defined mathematically. Thus, one would not need an etalon in Paris. Similarly, I would consider the natural numbers as a special case. The

RE: [Fis] about fis discussions

2007-06-06 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
06, 2007 7:23 PM To: Pedro Marijuan Cc: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] about fis discussions Dear FIS, Pedro is - as is his habitude - too modest again. He has through 15 years of patient work nurtured into being a discussion forum about the fundametals of information, as a general

RE: [Fis] about fis discussions

2007-06-06 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
-publishers.com/book.php?method=ISBNbook=1581126816 The Challenge of Scientometrics _ From: karl javorszky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:44 PM To: Loet Leydesdorff Cc: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] about fis discussions Hi Loet, we agree