Dear John, Dear All,
It seems clear that Michael Leyton has the greatest credit to
be the inventor of the concept of information as asymmetry.
During my reading and writing about Gibbs paradox, I saw the definition of
"entropy as symmetry" (or "information as asymmetry") is a good one. However,
a
Thanks. I still maintain my student carried this idea much further then
anyone before.
As I said before, priority in such issues issues is very hard to
establish. I think that Michael Scriven was well ahead on these ideas. He
is now known as Tal Scriven. His ideas date much earlier than 1992, to
At 05:33 PM 2009/11/14, you wrote:
>While not suggesting a discussion on this, I note that
>
>John says -- "information and the interpretation of information are
>different from
>each other"
>
>I think this is not as clear cut as that. Beginning all the way
>back to von Uexkull's
>Theoretical Bi
Yes, David Weiss is absolutely correct.
Michael Leyton did invent the concept of information as asymmetry
and published a massive mathematical theory of information in his books.
Gordana also pointed out in her PhD thesis years ago
how Leyton's concept of information arose from his theory of shap
At 03:42 PM 2009/11/14, Joseph Brenner wrote:
Dear
Colleagues,
John's opening of a new topic
Well, Pedro actually raised it, and his article on the subject was
contemporaneous with my own. I think that th major difference is that I
tried to emphasize both the symmetry and asymmetry aspects.
gi
The inventor of the concept of Information as Asymmetry is
Michael Leyton in his enormous book 640 pages
Symmetry,Causality, Mind (MIT Press, 1992).
Furthermore: Leyton invented the concept of the
causal basis of information.
In addition, Leyton's book A Generative Theory of Shape
in Springer (
While not suggesting a discussion on this, I note that
John says -- "information and the interpretation of information are different
from
each other"
I think this is not as clear cut as that. Beginning all the way back to von
Uexkull's
Theoretical Biology, the constructivist perspective take
Dear Colleagues,
John's opening of a new topic gives the chance of commenting both on his and on
my "Assymetry of Information", since both talk about symmetry and
symmetry-breaking. John asks how one can make a principled coupling between
intrinsic and extrinsic informational entities. I will s
At 02:12 PM 2009/11/10, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote:
Dear FIS colleagues,
The comments, days ago, by John H on "information states" were
intriguing. In my view, the differences he addresses between physical
states and informational states could be compacted as the "primacy
of
the intrinsic" regard
